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Title: Ashikodi
Post by: adje on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 16:26:49
...is he any good?Going to see him for the first time (if selected) on Tuesday.What to expect?


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 16:31:30
hasnt shown much to be fair, bit like Paynter, works hard chases but not a goal scorer, although he has always been top scorer for west ham reserves and rangers reserves and watford reserves


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 17:00:42
reminds me of Fola. Runs around but trips over his own feet like a donkey but can't finish.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 17:40:18
I'd pick Cox, Paynter and Corr over him.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 17:44:50
who would everyone pick as there first choice strike force?

id go for Billy Paynter & Simon Cox

im not much of a Barry Corr, Moses Ashikodi or Blair Sturrock fan


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Noel Gallagher on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 17:44:50
The lad must have some kind of talent, he's been picked up for some half decent sides already in his career i.e West Ham and Rangers and was tipped for big things. The unfortunate thing is that his career so far has been really stop start and once he gets used to playing regular 1st team football could become a mega player in this league.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Tails on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 20:05:40
I dunno.. he can pick the ball up and run which no one else in our team can really do except Cox, but Ashikodi is a lot stronger than him.

Not sure yet, I don't think he's particularly bad but not particularly brilliant either.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Luci on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 20:07:46
Quote from: "Im_Mint"
who would everyone pick as there first choice strike force?

id go for Billy Paynter & Simon Cox

im not much of a Barry Corr, Moses Ashikodi or Blair Sturrock fan


Corr & Cox however sounds crazy to some but if Corr not available then Sturrock & Cox.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: swindon-chap on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 20:12:57
Over the past few games he hasn't played very well tbh.
But I'm sure we haven't seen anywhere near the best of him yet just need to get a performance out of him.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 20:13:02
We'd have no height up front if we did that. I don't think Sturrock can head a ball and Paynter hasn't been able to either, which makes crosses seem less dangerous.

Corr & Cox is the best option we have.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Luci on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 20:14:25
I agree Corr & Cox is best however based on the others I don't see what the others do that Blair can't plus Blair works harder, hence my reasoning.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: swindon-chap on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 20:16:38
Quote from: "Im_Mint"
who would everyone pick as there first choice strike force?

id go for Billy Paynter & Simon Cox

im not much of a Barry Corr, Moses Ashikodi or Blair Sturrock fan


Agree with you there, It looked really promising with them two up front a couple of months ago, the 5-0 Gillingham win showed there is a good chemistry there.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 20:20:20
Blair has improved but he's still pretty shit


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: leefer on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 20:52:03
Cox and Paynter for me,Sturrock and Corr cant seem to keep the pace the whole match....Ashikodi needs to come off the bench and stretch oposition defenders when they begin to tire.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 20:52:45
Quote from: "swindon-chap"
Quote from: "Im_Mint"
who would everyone pick as there first choice strike force?

id go for Billy Paynter & Simon Cox

im not much of a Barry Corr, Moses Ashikodi or Blair Sturrock fan


Agree with you there, It looked really promising with them two up front a couple of months ago, the 5-0 Gillingham win showed there is a good chemistry there.


that was what, 3 months ago? Its hte only time those two have played really well together. Corr and cox have looked a much more dangerous partnership, with either moses or paynter coming on in the last 15 to run at a tired defence. easy


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 21:51:07
Quote from: "STFC dave"
Quote from: "swindon-chap"
Quote from: "Im_Mint"
who would everyone pick as there first choice strike force?

id go for Billy Paynter & Simon Cox

im not much of a Barry Corr, Moses Ashikodi or Blair Sturrock fan


Agree with you there, It looked really promising with them two up front a couple of months ago, the 5-0 Gillingham win showed there is a good chemistry there.


that was what, 3 months ago? Its hte only time those two have played really well together. Corr and cox have looked a much more dangerous partnership, with either moses or paynter coming on in the last 15 to run at a tired defence. easy
Have they played together another time?!


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 21:54:15
i'd imagine they must have done. i haven't got any stats to back that up though, so they might not of done


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: redbullzeye on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 21:54:54
Is Ashikodi match fit yet?  Harsh to judge him if he isn't.  Barry Corr is always worth consideration because he has that knack of being in the right place at the right time - Lincoln last year.  He can also curl them in from 25 yds - just a question of staying fit and not getting sent off.  Cox is the only player up front who consistently looks dangerous and has a pretty reliable first touch.  So it's Cox and Corr for me.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 23:26:06
The reason i'd choose Paynter to partner Cox over Corr is simply because i think they can score more goals as a partnership. Yes Cox and Corr had a good spell but that spell wasn't as long as the good spell Paynter and Cox had. Also they are our 2 top goalscorers (i think) so you want to play the strikers who can score the most goals upfront. You only have to think back to Gillingham and Bournemouth to see how good they can be.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Colin Todd on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 23:57:48
paynter over corr?

are you people nuts?

billy has scored 1 goal in about 15 games ffs


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, February 10, 2008, 23:58:38
Quote from: "Colin Todd"
paynter over corr?

are you people nuts?

billy has scored 1 goal in about 15 games ffs


And Corr is always fucking injured....


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, February 11, 2008, 00:20:57
Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji"
Quote from: "Colin Todd"
paynter over corr?

are you people nuts?

billy has scored 1 goal in about 15 games ffs


And Corr is always fucking injured....
That's not a reason to choose Paynter over him when he's fit though  :?


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: axs on Monday, February 11, 2008, 00:30:09
Quote from: "Colin Todd"
paynter over corr?

are you people nuts?

billy has scored 1 goal in about 15 games ffs


he got 2 in one game a couple of weeks back.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Colin Todd on Monday, February 11, 2008, 09:07:36
Corr      - 8 starts 9 sub - 5 Goals
Paynter - 18 starts 7 sub - 7 Goals

5 of paynters goals came in 2 games 3 months ago, against shite opposition


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: McLovin on Monday, February 11, 2008, 09:11:12
I still think Paynter is a good player who will do well. He's just not on form at the moment. At the top of their respective games, i'd pick Billy and Cox.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: fatbury on Monday, February 11, 2008, 09:16:01
needs games to get better .. reckon hes a confidence player .. if he can score we will see a massive improvement


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: DiV on Monday, February 11, 2008, 10:24:50
Quote from: "Colin Todd"
Corr      - 8 starts 9 sub - 5 Goals
Paynter - 18 starts 7 sub - 7 Goals

5 of paynters goals came in 2 games 3 months ago, against shite opposition


2 of Corrs were against the same  shite opposition and one was a penalty.....

so what?


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: STFC Bart on Monday, February 11, 2008, 10:28:29
He is rubbish- send him back


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: juddie on Monday, February 11, 2008, 10:37:26
I'd agree with Corr and Cox. A lot of people have suggested Ashikodi has the potential to be awesome, so maybe he needs a run to get match fit and used to playing with this team?  I did think last week he had a bit of Fola about him, which is never a good sign!

Blair, for all his work rate, simply isn't good enough for this level IMO. Against Northampton he scored a decent goal but his hold up play was abysmal. He just looks out of his depth.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Colin Todd on Monday, February 11, 2008, 11:05:00
Quote from: "DV"
Quote from: "Colin Todd"
Corr      - 8 starts 9 sub - 5 Goals
Paynter - 18 starts 7 sub - 7 Goals

5 of paynters goals came in 2 games 3 months ago, against shite opposition


2 of Corrs were against the same  shite opposition and one was a penalty.....

so what?


So I think paynter is lazy and shit. that is all


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: dell boy on Monday, February 11, 2008, 11:45:01
I would imagine none of our five main forwards would put the shits up the opposition - Cox, Corr, Paynter, Sturrock and Ashikodi.
None are prolific goalscorers, none have the bulk to push around a centre half, and none of them have pace to burn to terrorise a defence or play up front on their own.
None have made it in a higher division though they've all had the chance.

I dont think it has anything to do with lack of effort, they are all honest players, but if we are going to progress we need a real target man, two of the five in my opinion have the chance to go onto to better and we probably haven't seen the best of Cox and Ashikodi as yet, the rest are just Div One/Div Two average run of the mill forwards.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Power to people on Monday, February 11, 2008, 12:06:36
I'd say the partnership of Cox & Corr, Cox has the pace and obviously works well with a target man, Corr has the battling ability and is able to provide knock downs for Cox.

I'd worry about Corr's fitness though, so perhaps it may be better using Paynter  - they teamed up well in Cox's loan spell - until Corr has proved his fitness fully.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, February 11, 2008, 12:27:56
Quote from: "DV"
Quote from: "Colin Todd"
Corr      - 8 starts 9 sub - 5 Goals
Paynter - 18 starts 7 sub - 7 Goals

5 of paynters goals came in 2 games 3 months ago, against shite opposition


2 of Corrs were against the same  shite opposition and one was a penalty.....

so what?


using that logic 5 of paynters came in tow games against shit opposition, and two were handed to him on a plate


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Colin Todd on Monday, February 11, 2008, 13:10:56
... and 2 of paynters have been against L2 teams


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, February 11, 2008, 18:12:29
I just think Paynter is a better all round player than Corr. He doesn't have the aerial threat but he is a better finisher in my opinion. Not much in it but i think Paynter can score more goals.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 21:43:48
Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza"
reminds me of Fola. Runs around but trips over his own feet like a donkey but can't finish.


Oi, bugger off.  I haven't tripped over my own feet for at least two days.

Git.



 :wink:


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 22:43:35
Paynter and Cox it is then!


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Luci on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 22:45:37
Not for Saturday though, Cox will miss it due to 5th yellow at Huddersfield.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Colin Todd on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 22:48:29
i'm trying to be impartial here, but paynter really wasnt very good again. a decent header for the goal, but a few 1st shocking touches and few headers won


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 22:50:03
didnt watch the game then?

Patyner played well, and find me a player who didnt have one or two dodgy first touches?!


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Luci on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 22:50:08
I disagree with CT.  Thought Paynter was quality, worked hard and pressured defenders with some good passing also.

Just my opinion like though  :D


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 22:50:56
Shut up! Paynter had an ace game. ran around tirelessley and stretched the cheltnumb defence


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Colin Todd on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 22:58:21
none you you cunts have a clue.   :D    papering over the cracks of an undeserved 3-0 win


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 23:45:04
Said all along Paynter should start alongside Cox and for once i was proved right  :mrgreen:


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 23:45:51
Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji"
Said all along Paynter should start alongside Cox and for once i was proved right  :mrgreen:


what did I say in the pub before hand though?


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Colin Todd on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 23:46:01
one cross that hit teh scouse cunts head proves nothing :wink:


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 23:47:00
Quote from: "Colin Todd"
one cross that hit teh scouse cunts head proves nothing :wink:


Oh and what about the rest of the games when he and Cox have played so well together? They are our best 2 strikers simply because they play so well together.


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: mexico red on Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 00:49:38
paynter made a huge difference tonight, held the ball up brilliantly and instigating loads of chances by his initial link up play. him and cox looked great together. i can see paynter getting 15-20 a season and cox getting 20-25


Title: Ashikodi
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 13:45:16
Agreed they linked up well, if Paynter & Macnamee continue putting in the quality of balls they did then hopefully we can't fail to score