police punching young swindon fan saturday

[Colin Todd]

Obviously if he had been a hippie then this would have been fully deserved.

As it is I feel sorry for the bloke and his family.  Its dosnt matter what happened before the filming starts. If he did something wrong they should have arrested him at that point not wait til he is walking away and shove him in the back. its fucking cowardly. The copper responsible should go down for it.

[Phil_S]

I thought that it was being policed very poorly when I saw on the TV that people were being contained in an area for upto 7 hours regardless of weather they were protesting or just about their daily business.
Seemed to me that the coppers were on an "anything goes today lads" mode. To me, I feel may be the guy was/had said something to them, so this copper thought he'd dish out his own punishment. There is no excuse what so ever for it. It contrasts with the Jean Charles De Menizes case where I had/ have some sympathy with the police, but in this case I hope they throw the book at the copper. It also brings to mind the recent thing in Luton, where the islamofacists were allowed by the coppers to incite murder/hatred, & when ordinary peopel object they get arrested.

[Simon Pieman]

So reports today that the bloke was plastered and had drinking problems and was causing the police aggrevation. That doesn't warrant the treatment dished out one bit, but I wonder if the heart attack was brought on mostly through the drink or through the police being overly aggressive.

[spacey]

Yeah, the police action was merely a coincidence. That fact that he liked a drink means he would have been dead within minutes anyway. Infact I'd go as far to say that the policeman deserves promotion for putting the poor chap out of his misery. Lets hope that the thorough police investigation that takes place, much like all other police investigations, finds the brave policeman innocent.

[Simon Pieman]

That's exactly what I meant Spacey. Good post.

[overthehill]

And they should charge him (postumously) with wasting police time.

[THE FLASH]

I would just like to know what would of been done without the video evidence......fuck all is my guess!

[Bennett]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7998976.stm

this looks a bit excessive

[ron dodgers]

I bet that was sore afterwards

[alanmayes]

The second autopsy on Ian Tomlinson has shown that he died not of a heart attack,but of internal bleeding,
causing an "Abdominal haemorrhage".His family have known the results for 1 week,but were asked by the
IPCC not to comment,whilst their inquiry proceeded.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/g20-summit/5172206/Ian-Tomlinson-G20-protests-death-police-office-faces-manslaughter-charge.html

[genf_stfc]

blimey, the guy that did the first autopsy should probably be a bit worried as well now - sounds like rather a convenient conclusion to come to before the video came to light.

[flammableBen]

No wonder he died if he had internal bleeding. And to think everybody was blaming the pigs.

[Simon Pieman]

Regarding Ian Tomlinson the blame now has to firmly lie with the police. It already did to a large degree but now it's certain.

All these reports about the protests are showing that the police have not done their duty in that they have aggravated an emotive situation. With all the talk of Hillsborough I think comparisons can definitely be drawn, the police seem to adopt an us versus them attitude in these protest situations. Obviously football hooligans are there to cause trouble though, whereas protestors may not have this mentality. One thing that's been learned is that giving people a beating only makes the problem worse.

I also noted the fact they boxed people into certain areas without food and drink for hours and no wonder people got angry.

[4D]

Memo.

Take a packed lunch to next protest.

[flammableBen]

Fucking disgraceful.

Nought wrong with doing over a macdonalds and helping yourself to a few happy meals.