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too much 'im so proud' shite going around now it's over

for the most pasrt the managers, players and fans have been equally fucking rubbish this season and we've got what we deserved

disagree, if the effort from the players and staff matched the fans we would have been better off.

having said that tho, effort means shit when the ability isnt there. the plain and simple fact is that like for like our current crop of players dont have the ability bar a few exceptions.

Daves right.

Less back slapping more back stabbing please 8)

Totally agree. I've never been so ashamed to ba a town fan. Shit team, shit manager, shit fans. I've had enough of it. Only away games for me next season. The CG is full of fucking idiots.

Was I the only one in the fucking ground who wanted The Scum to stay up?
Was I the only one in the fucking ground who thinks Iffy is fucking rubbish and should go before he causes any more damage?
Was I the only one in the fucking ground who thinks Cureton is a waste of fucking space?

I could go on and on but I can't be fucking bothered. Roll on the the fucking test matches.

i wanted the scum to go down so i can spend the next few years gloating though i would have liked to see them stay up.

i've told you my feelings about iffy before (i think) so you'll know i disagree

totally agree about cureton though, fucking hate that little scrote.

Iffy should and will stay as he has the backing of the team and the club. And Curo should go as he has just became fukin rubbish as he doesn't want to be here any more.

100% agree.

Iffy - rubbish ? My oh my. Fickle or what!

No, I always said he's not going to be up to the job and we're down, aren't we?

Being a "nice guy" counts for fuck all, sadly- get a proper manager in not a kiddies trainer.

He is a nice guy, and I know thats not the point.

However nobody could of saved us, I'm sorry but its true. He gave it his best shot, and if we get rid of him before we give him a chance we're stupid fools.

Why am I fickle? And why the fuck do we keep a manager who has relegated us? Don't tell me he's not had a chance because he fucking has. 30 odd games of a chance.

of course he hasnt had a fucking chance, or did I imagine our top goal scorer and probably best player being sold from under him against his wishes?

Remember that last 20 minutes against Bournemouth when Lee Peacock came on and scored, the team looked complete then....final piece of the puzzle

Give him 10 matches i say, if no improvement then get rid.

No- we made the same mistake with King last year.

Says thanks to Iffy now. Give the new man full use of the summer transfer market, a pre-season and opening games.

agreed, but only if it's holloway who comes in.

How can you say Iffy has had a chance? He has had no more than 3/4 of a season, with the only goalscorer taken away, starting 7 points behind everybody else! Had he started on a level playing fied we would have theoretically stayed up and everybody would have been happy.

I dont see what good getting rid of him would do given our situation.

Any idea if the rumours about Holloway being there yesterday were true? Or is it more thisis Sandra Bullocks?

lady's token reading fan said he was definitely there, couldn't see him myself.

it's looking increasingly likely he'll be involved in some capacity.

why not give Iffy the same treatment?

This simply isn't true, we weren't 7 points behind anyone when Iffy came in, we only needed 3 points to get out of the relegation zone, in the end we finished 5 adrift with goal difference so had he started on a level playing field we wopuld have gone down anyway.

Iffy hasn't had a chance yet sorry.

I doubt even Jose Mourinho would have kept us up this year.

And anyway, Power and Devlin have said they want to give him a chance next season.

regardless of how many points we started/finished with, that 8 game losing streak was what took us down.

Take it neither MR or DMR was at Forest or City then? How can you say our fans have been shit this season? FFS, considering the unremitting shit we've had to put up with on the pitch (and a good deal of it off the pitch as well) the fans have been brilliant. You two might have been shit, don't judge the rest of the fans by your own standards :evil:

I agree.

I think that Iffy could do really well next season if given the chance. He had a huge task trying to help us stay up, and he may not of it but he made some positive changed already and he is miles better than king.

You can't slate him when he's not really had a good chance to prove himself. Let him start from the beginning, a new season and a whole new thing to play for - promotion. Not relegation with a team with no confidence like he had this season.

I like Iffy but if the rumours about Holloway being there yesterday are true then id say get him in charge.

holloway isnt coming here, spoke to senior management yesterday and they basically said we cant afford him, it seemed to me though that iffy wont be manager for much longer but will probably stay at the club in some capacity.

Isn't Holloway still being paid in excess of £200k a year from QPR.  Can't see him taking a more than 50% pay cut to come here.  people seem to think we can just go and get whoever we want.

I'd be happy to have Iffy, also not devestated if someone special came in (very unlikely).

The start to this season gave it the kiss of death.  Very few teams will ever receover from 2 wins in and 1 draw in 13 games, coming off the back of a shit pre season with a squad full of players who'd hardly had a game between them for 12 months or were having their first ever season.

3 of the games in the losing run were under Iffy.

Going by the qpr messageboard Holloway was on £180k a year at QPR.

1 of which was just over 24 hours after he took over...

Deja vu! Fuck! Must be a glitch in the Matrix! Everybody to the nearest 'phone!

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

There's no doubt that sacking Iffy would be justified, he had a good run of games did OK for a while then blew it big style.

   However, it really depends on whether the Powers that be, want to splash the cash to get a proper manager....if yes then good, if no then we may as well stick with Iffy as try out another cheap inexperienced man.

 The board though need to make some kind of statement,  as much by action as words, as to the aim for next season.

  As things stand, staying in L2 will be some kind of achievement given the paucity of quality at the club.

Devlin has already said he wants a 'swift return to league 1'.

 Saying it though needs to backed up with actions, as things stand we are woefully poor in most areas.....in terms of quality and numbers.

 Of our likely squad for next season given fitness doubts etc, I'd say only Jerel, Peacock, Brown, Gurney and possibly Jack Smith are up to the required standard.

I was at both games, aswell as a lot more which gives me a right to an opinion. I bet ive been to more than you mister Trust person sir. I have a lot of respect for you PD but don't ever question my support for the club. I have been a shit fan? HA HA. Just because you shake a bucket, that makes you better than me does it?

Do one Davis, don't judge my commitment because I'm not towing the Iffy-love-in line. Yes I was at Forest, yes I was at City and yes I have attended every game, home and away, that I could prior to yesterday.

Because the task and responsibilty of first team management is evidently beyond him.

Just for the record, I thought our support at City was shite.

I'd say it was poor in terms of numbers. Thought it was as loud as it has been this season though, goal was a bit mental.

I agree. I didn't like it though because every cunt was licking Iffys and Curetons ass.

Oh, get down off the hissy fit, the pair of you. I didn't question either of your commitment, just your right to slag off the rest of the fans and describe everyone except your sainted selves as total shit. Tarts

Bollocks, if you're happy to clap and cheer them and sing their names after an abysmal relegation season then more fool you.

Iffy, the board, the players, they're all total cunts and they don't give a flying fuck. If they've pulled the wool over your eyes then so be it.

forget it ... whats done it done .. look forward and hope next year brings at least a play off spot ..

No, I'm not and I didn't - left before they came out on Saturday for exactly that reason. If you'd bothered to read my original post before havign a prissy tantrum, you'd have noticed I didn't disagree with the first two bits of your "analysis". What I objected to, and still do, was you describing the fans as shit - like I said, considering the unremitting shit we've had to put up with this season (which I think was your point), the fans have done very well to stick with it in the numbers and with the commitment they have. Had we seen a little more of the same on the pitch, or in the playing budget which is where the problem started lets not forget, things could have been very different. But FFS the fans are the last  people who need slagging off in all this.

And I've never said our fans have put up a poor show this year. I haven't made a comment at all on how "good" our fans have been.

My point was everyones getting all back-patty.... not towards each other but to the players. And that's fucking absurd.

Well we have, I can't believe you're disputing that.

Numbers and noise have been lower than they have been for ages.

Average attendance is up on last season I think!?!

Noise has been poor for several seasons and this season I think it was amazing it didn't turn sour, so I'm not suprised it wasn't a cauldron of noise.  Normally you'd have half the season spent with fans booing and calling for blood every week.  That hardly happened after King went and things stayed remarkably positive considering what was being served up.  City away was better than I've seen for a many a year down there, normally it's a damp squid atmosphere wise as the Gate.

I have to agree with Dave, this happy clapping support is doing my head in.  I can't believe the amount of people waiting for the players to come back out after Saturday's shit performance, not to mention the rest of the season.  I couldn't wait for the final whislte so I could get out of there.

When the guy with the mic said "Iffy's just told me the lads are going in for a couple of minutes, but then they'll be back to thank you all..."it nearly made me sick.  I can't believe that so many people were booing the club under King, now applaud the same useless players because they play under Reeves and Iffy.  FFS they're putting in the same shit performances but get applauded.

And one half decent result against City doesn't make them heroes, they a bunch of useless fucking cunts who deserve the wrath of their public.

(Lee Peacock is not included in my above rant).

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I thought we'd made ourselves quite clear after the MK and Brentford games, or shall we boo them first game of next season and all so they don't get too comfortable?


Draw a line under it, for fuck sake.

I'd agree with pretty much all of what jan said. Just don't agree with slating fans  who make the effort and pay a good amount of cash to do so for the fact that the playing budget was too low, so the team was shit. That's not the fans' fault, and it's a bit rich to slag off people who've suffered enough IMHO - we've done all we can, but the players haven't done their part of the bargain.

Exactly Amir, Saturday was a perfect chance for people to show the players that their effort and attitude is unacceptable.  Instead they get 5,000 idiots clapping them.  No wonder they don't care if they can get away with playing like shit in front of their adoring public.

I wouldn't expect many people to vent their anger at the start of a new season though.

I stuck around,but i was most certainly not clapping our players :x ,i was stood there listening to the Pox going down on my radio,five minutes extra time ffs.But i agree there was no way the players deserved any kind of ovation considering the shit we've had to put up with this year :cry: I'm just pleased the season is over.

Fair enough.  Wouldn't have caught me hanging around to clap them.

Booing your team is fucking stupid. It's going to make them low and lacking even more in confidence.

Some people don't think.

"There's only one Bill Power" was worth staying for! had a big grin on his face and looked pretty enthusiastic talking to Devo.  Thats my closure for this season as pretty much one of the only positive things to come out of it.

Its easy to pass the blame but that isn't going to get us back into league one. Draw a line under this season and lets hope we can rebuild and prepare properly for next.

Bill Powers ace ,he also has a drunk look about him 8)

I think there were a few players worth clapping.  I think Evans deserves some respect and a couple of others (Tounami, Lucas, and even Iffy ).  

Agree though that a number of  those who wanted King Out seem satisfied even though we have largely carried on in the same vien.

But it's over now. We'll have to see what the summer brings.

Given our shit season, I think our fans have been very good this season - City away was a great atmosphere, anyone who thinks otherwise obviously goes to the Nou Camp every Saturday....

I clapped the players because I think this season simply some just haven't been good enough, but not for the want of trying.  I'm happy with Jack Smith, Lee Peacock, Rhys Evans, Andy Gurney, Aaron Brown and Jerel Ifil.

Simply most have not been good enough, or suffered through injury, rather than having the wrong attitude or not trying.  For example, Ifil comes under all sorts of stick yet watching him play he seems to have the bit between his teeth and plays like he cares.  Yes he makes mistakes, but in time I think he'll iron them out of his game.

There's a couple of players who I think have had a poor attitude, but I won't single out names on here as I've got no concrete evidence to support this.  I'm not going to boo or shun the team just because of a few individuals.

not been to a great deal of away games in the past but considering our league position for pretty much all of the season, our away support hasn't been too bad. i went to a few away games on my own in the play-off season and our support wasn't brilliant, maybe the fact i was alone made it worse.

i stayed afterwards on saturday but didn't clap any of the players. i sort of made a point of lighting up and not clapping or cheering. many of them don't deserve any respect, plaudits or support but we've booed them in the past. the season is over, we've been relegated and it's in the past. it's all irrelevent.

my thoughts on iffy are mixed, i'm starting to think that perhaps a fresh start is required in the summer but then i struggle to justify sacking him when he never had a hope of keeping us up anyway.

i do wish everyone would stop worshipping some of the players. i like peacock but i'm not quite sure how he's become such a 'legend'.

Anyone with a tattoo like his instantly deserves the status of legend...

I think in the current climate, any player who shows passion for the club gets the status of "legend"....  I'm hoping Peacock will be ala Mooney in the playoff season and really get the crowd going.

People that think the fans are stupid for clapping and praising the team event hough we got relegated are stupid , get a fucking grip. This is our football club, why just because your grumpy buggers should we be ? yes we're relegated, but I clap because I bloody well want to! I WILL praise curo because I think he's been great since he has been back from colchester and I WILL praise iffy as I think he's made improvements. Don't call us arse lickers. If you call us arse lickers we will call you grumpy bastards  :D  If you can't say you were proud at bristol city, forgetting everything else you must have a screw lose.

I'm a grumpy bastard and proud then.

This is the worst STFC side I have witnessed.  The worst in terms of character, of fight and team spirit.

I agree, this is the worst season I have witnessed since supporting this club. I won't say that we've been good all season and I won't say all the players are brilliant because thats not true and I don't think Nobody thinks that. But when something positive does happy, you praise it. Theres surely nothing wrong with that? And singling out fans just because they see a bright side now and again is slightly unfair.

At the end of the day, every football club goes through a bad patch and we're having one at the moment. I can guarrante that good things will come our way sooner or later because most of the time thats just how it  goes and I believe in us. Stamping our feet and moaning at everything does not get you anywhere even though sometimes you feel its all you can do. You just have to accept it and move on. Our season is now over, I feel now we should all stop moaning at what could of been and slating players for missed chances. Whats done is done, show some support and confidence for next season  :D

I wasnt clapping, i was waving bye bye to 'em!!!

I agree,and I've been watching since 1967.