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Anybody on here get caught up in the trouble before the game?

Me and my mates were in The Inn On The Green, right at the top of the hill. Just as we were about to leave, 1.30 ish, a mob of 80 odd Rovers jumped the fences into the beer garden and laid into the 20-30 Swindon fans. A lot of the Swindon fans managed to get into the pub, for cover. One bloke had had his arm broken, quite a few had cuts from being glassed/punched. None of our lot were looking for trouble, majority wearing Swindon tops....not your average hoolie type.

Having stuck another £3 onto each ticket, so say for extra policing, the amount of police was a joke. We walked from Montpelier, past the ground upto the pub and back to the ground after it had all kicked off and I can only remember seeing one solitary copper...at Temple Meads.

i too was at the inn on the green. earlier on in the day the garden looked to me to be full of swindon shirts, and familys - i can only assume it was the same when it got a bit tasty?

i was absolutely amazed that there weren't any police at bristol parkway, and even more amazed that there was no police presence, at all, along gloucester road, until it all kicked off.

This is a cut & paste from my post on MOS...

I'm too depressed to write anything about the game itself...and others have said all that needs saying there anyway.

What leaves an even more bitter taste, however, is what happened at the Inn on the Green in Horfield at around 1.30pm this afternoon. Maybe I have just been lucky, but in 17 years of watching the Town I have NEVER seen or been involved in anything like the events that took place there.

Shortly beforehand, the atmosphere in the pub garden was light hearted. We were talking away, reading the papers etc. Mostly Swindon fans, but a few Rovers there too. A little banter, but no antagonism.

Then suddenly the mob appeared walked in to the garden from off the street and all hell broke loose. Bottles flying all around us and smashing glass. One of the thugs was carrying a wooden bat of some sort. We ran for cover back in to the pub and, very fortunately, none of my immediate group of family and friends was physically hurt.

Others were not so lucky. A bloke in his 50s on the table behind us was bloodied and dazed afterwards. I hope he got to hospital because he needed attention. One of the guys sat at our table is now in hospital, I hear, with a fractured eye socket. Less seriously, phones and wallets that were left on the tables when we ran inside were stolen. It all happened very quickly. Everyone was stunned.

I still wouldn't want to make too many generalisations...can't even be sure if the perpetrators were Rovers fans or just local hooligans.

But with the violence at the County Ground earlier this season and now this unprovoked attacked on a group of our fans who were simply enjoying a drink before the game - the possible ground share next year HAS to be refused. We said as much before today, and now have the proof.

This post probably sounds a bit chopsy and I'm still a little wound up to tell the truth. But football shouldn't be like this.

I too was caught up in this, we just arrived at the inn on the Green, I left my bro at the bar to get the beers and I headed out into the garden to try and grab some seats. As has already been said, the patio area was mostly swindon, and mostly in colours as well. I came back inside, and next thing I know everyone piles inside and it kicks off big time. Some bellend came in around the side door, picked up the dirty glasses and headed back out to throw them, and not one copper in sight. The lack of police was ridiculous! we headed straight out of the pub again and just went to the ground, but there was lads walking round with bottles and shit, really nasty scenes. I was very fortunate with my timing, and hope that the injuries sustained are limited to those detailed above. No doubt they're sat around in some pub or online "claiming a result" whilst normal, law abiding fans are sat in A&E nursing broken bones.  Absolute animals!

saw a few people sporting some battle scars....as we drove past that pub the police were just arriving....to abuse such as 'a bit fucking late now'

Saying that walking to and from the ground around the rovers fans was fine.

I guess like most sets of supporters you get those who go out looking for trouble, I wouldnt care if they kept it amongst themselves...if they want to do it, let the brain dead idiots do it.

Its when innocent bystanders get involved and injured which makes it even worse....esp if they were just sitting there minding their own business

If you can cope with the lack of grammar, try reading Gerald's (shilton_red) account of the game. Nevermind the violence, people standing up and swearing will bring about the end of society as we know it!

Exactly! Every team has it's idiots, round them up and stick them in a field while the rest of us have a few beers, a bit of banter and watch the game.

In and around the ground was no problem at all fortunately. I was glad we were not in colours, and traveling from southampton, not swindon so we had n o problems just slipping out of the pub and to the ground. Just hope no one else is seriously injured.

he's a twat, obviously


[Gerald, not Ted!!]

oh dear, i was stood in the gangway, and used a few "swar" words!

 :oops:

i may well have used the "c" word too - can i be banned for that?

Tell that cunt I never fucking swear ok?

:fatbury:

Is it wrong that I found this post quite humorous???

very wrong!

mad.gif!!!!

I did too :)

Assume the chap doesn't get out much?

thing is....how old is this guy?

I've always thought him to be quite old....so surely he grew up watching town in the 70s &/or 80s which was much much worse for hooliganism, standing and general awful behavoiur at football?

He's an ex-copper, anyone who used the Adver boards back in the day will know all about him.

Total mentalist.

Sounds like a complete tool!

Heh! heh!

I miss Gerry Stilton 8)

It was my son who had his arm broken, and is spending the night in Frenchay pending an operation to reset it. Thanks to those on here for their concern. been following Town for over 40 years and never seen anything like that. I just hope they are proud of themselves. One thing for sure we must not groundshare with those bastards. :evil:

Pete that's horrible. Hope he recovers fully and isn't put off enjoying going to the game with his Dad. If I were you I'd be tempted to sue Avon and Somerset coppers for neglect of duty, especially given they upped the ticket prices on the back of a promise to control those animals.

I hope your son gets home soon and makes a speedy recovery. If our board have a shred of decency they will say NO to the groundshare.

The Police took statements from most of us who were there but I doubt anything will come of it, and I think you are being unfair on the animals Paul! :evil:

Jesus (the unprovoked attack) that is shit.

Hope your lad is on the mend soon pete1278

Pete, good point. As a veggie I should know better. The coppers have some serious questions to answer IMO - like how the hell did a mob of 80+ manage to assemble, attack and disappear apparently un-noticed by the "intelligence-led" policing, hordes of coppers on the ground and constant helicopter presence.

Frasier, I assume your point was rhetorical.

Sonic/DV etc I have responded to Gerald's request that I write to Rovers to apologise on behalf of Swindon fans on the Trust forum.

if it helps paul, those guilty of the assault were "escorted away" by the police who were "aware of the threat".

great.

So why didn't they fucking stop it? It's not like they were short-handed is it? Probably all too busy telling people to write letters of apology for bad language. Jesus.

very shoddy after being charged extra for....umm the police to ummm.... to stop our fans going on the pitch at the end of the game?!

And dress up in their dandy outfits - them Star Wars memorabilia Stormtrooper kits don't come cheap you know. Plus they had to paint them black from the original white.

monkhouse got sent off today.

didn't know he had it in him.

no i also found it quite funny, i think he was stood somewhere near me because all i could hear the whole match was 'this isn't fair there are kids here they can't see!' i thought let them stand on the chairs or ask a steward to move to you the front then don't just stand/sit there and complain about it, i think they were trying to make a point by sitting down, wish they had of left after the first half! Have they never been to a bloody football match before? Ofcourse people are going to stand and swear what do they expect!

And Pete1278, i hope your son is back home and on the mend soon, i can't believe we pay for extra policing and that happens!

 I had argued for the groundshare being acceptable....but now I'll argue for it being unaccepatable.

shut up you prick

 
 I've no real interest in your opinion, as I've yet to read a post from you that contained anything of merit....however Pete's post does, and as an open minded individual, I'm prepared to be swayed....you should try it.

:soapy tit wank:

I honestly couldn't give a cunting fuck what people think about standing up and language .

It's a fucking football match not fucking Opera.

Fuck off if you don't like it.

I'm more pissed off about how uniterested are players seem.

Am i being a cunt or out of order?

Maybe i am, i'm just passionate.

shut up you prick

hang on, whos shutting up? ive lost track.....

shut up you prick

cheers, thanks for reminding me

pete1278, i hope your son is ok.

Totally disgusting behaviour.

I think you speak for the majority Ralphy.

Isn't Cunt a fantastic word?

 Its interesting that the etymology of the word cunt, apparently derives fron the same Anglo Saxon word that gives us the name for the River Kennet....anybody au fait with the Swallowhead Spring will understand.

well you fucking lost me there :)

pete, here's hoping your son makes a full and speedy recovery. Horrible situation by the sound of it and do what you can to ensure the bastards responsible are brought to justice. Good luck!

Someone from the club or indeed the trust needs to have a serious word with Wilts Bizzy Pc footie intell officer James Neighbour. He was warned last week that trouble was brewing. I hope those that suffered recover quickly, and that these unsavoury incidents dont stop you comiing next weekend.
I warned last weekend to those that would listen that word on wovers boards suggested they would be looking for trouble.
Glad you all got home ok(well...most of you anyway.)
Matt

you would think they would have some police presence outside the pub or something? the game was a disaster policing wise and its just a shame that some people who were enjoying a pre-match pint or 2 have to be beaten up for their efforts

it was obvious it would kick off.but attacking shirt wearing town fans is cowardly imo.
as for our fans blocking kids views.when some of you have kids and take them to football,maybe your opinions might change?
i didn't go yesterday due to other commitments,and i'm glad i missed it

Why were there no police inside the pub? I had my wallet stolen and am quite pleased I got away with just that. Managed to avoid the flying bottles and planks and make it back into the pub.

No one in the pub was looking for trouble. It was a mix of families, people in replica shirts with flags and people just there for a meal. The police said afterwards they had found the mob that did it and were escorting them to the John Cabot pub! The police were very nice to us but come on, what is the point in being there if you're going to round them up and walk them back to their pub where they can mingle and no longer be identified.

They did get Rovers to print me another ticket for the game though (it was in my wallet), and that is what I was most angry about. They policed the incident terribly and then allowed me to watch that 90 minutes of shit.

I in no way tollerate football violence but what sort of self respecting mob targets a pub garden full of women and children 'shirters' ?

There was trouble brewing since the day they got home from playing us at the County Ground. The police knew, cause they did. Where were they?? Fucking disgraceful

It was very cowardly. I don't condone football violence but if their lads want to fight our lads away from shirters then let them get on with it. We were all just having lunch. They walked straight up to us and we all assumed they were Swindon.

They got within 15 yards, turned a table upside down and then shouted 'come on swindon' before letting fly a volley of bottles and then charging at us.

We drank in the Bishops Tavern, about a mile from the ground, down the Gloucester Road next to Montpeiler.

This sounds terrible hope you son is ok Pete.

What I find unbelievable is that 80 people can attack and rob people and then be escorted to a pub because they attach themselves to a football club.Last I heard theft and violence was an arrestable offence.

Get writing in to the Adver, this should end the ground share possibilty, can't risk non football fans in Town being attacked because they're "Swindon".

I bet the board are gutted.

 Best wishes to your son, hope the op goes well.

I hate to say it but we could pay Rovers again in the Play offs.

I was about to say that jan. At least this should put an end to this groundshare nonsense.

It was my mate who had his wallet nicked and my sister who had her phone nicked after we legged it inside - we found some police futher down the road and reported it and whilst they did a good job in getting my mate back into the game without his ticket (in the wallet) they were otherwise completely out of control - we were taken in the van down to the next pub to ID the bloke who took the wallet - I'd seen him nick it from the table, but seeing as though he probably had a bottle in one hand and a plank of wood in the other, i wasn't going to ask for it back.

Anyway, the police told us they'd 'followed' the bunch who'd stormed the Inn on the Green down to the next pub - what the fuck?! followed them?

Who've got a bunch of locals who've just broken one guys arm, anothers cheekbone, made an a bloke minding his own business hide in a hedge because he couldn't get back inside across the bottles being thrown...and you follow them to the next pub. "we know where they are" they told us....great. cheers for that.

A rivalry has built up this year with the Gas like there hasn't been before - not for everyday fans, but the thugs. It started in the Arkells in the last game - it snowballed to thisone and was worse - and it'll get far worse next time.

So what happens when we have a long away trip next year and Rovers are in Town - not that these muppets go to games much anyway, but frankly, rather than a trip to Accrington or Carlisle, i can see them fancying a bit of a ruck i Town instead.

If the board go ahead with entertaining a groundshare now it'll not only be incompetent, but plain dangerous and showing not only a lack of regard for the opinion of town fans, but for the sfaety of each and every one.

What more evidence do you need?

Just goes to show - you could have 2 police to every 1 fan but they have no power to do anything. They were very nice, but obviously scared. Its no use having 100s of nice coppers if they're just going to escort those thugs back to their home pub so they can get more pissed and arm themselves up again with bottles for after the game.

they were rather nice coppers weren't they?!

i asked the leader of the unit at the inn on the green why they hadnt been there in advance to stop an incident and his reply was something along the lines of "well we didn't know you [swindon fans] were here".

im no expert on these matters, but surely it would have been obvious that all the pubs near the ground needed monitoring?!

The Inn on the Green probably got targeted because as we turned up there a Rovers fan had just been bottled out the front. He was missing about half his head, poor fucker  :?

Fantastic. The only pub down the road that was allowing away fans - in fact, there was a beer garden, with a wide open door (that allowed the gang through) - where any one of the x thousand policemen could have peered in to see lots of red shirts.

£3 extra well spent on that ticket then.

To the board: Next time you decide a groundshare is such a wonderful idea, hows about you drag yourself away from your pre-match prawn cocktail and Chablis and come to the pub - you may then see why everyone is so against it.

I'm glad I can get wound up about this instead of dwelling on that inept performance...

Someone was fairly convinced that someone in a black top in the beer garden at the Inn on the Green had 'put a call in' to get them down there

I've been going to Town matches for the best part of ten years now and despite feeling intimidated on trains full of Pox fans/ buses through Reading (Christ, how long ago was that!?), I've never witnessed anything like yesterday. I know these points have been made already, but...

1) We must not groundshare with any club that has plonkers like these attached to it in any way. It would quite possibly be the final nail in the coffin of 'keeping Town in Swindon', considering the PR disaster it would end in and the obvious reaction of the people of Swindon to getting a town full of thugs every other week.

2) Sadly, the thought of going to the pub before an away game now freaks me out quite a lot. Thanks for ruining my fun, you gutless b*stards.

3) Spoke to the pub yesterday evening, to check my phone didn't miraculously somehow end up on the floor or something... It didn't, but they did find two pairs of glasses if anyone's interested!

I hope to God we don't have to play those idiots again in a couple of weeks time. :?

Ive had close hand experience of policing at football matches for around 6 years now. And Ive come to the conclusion that police forces are completely obsessed with stopping organised violence between firms. They have stopped policing events as a whole, trusting that rogue groups of lads will not attack shirters.

This backfired majorly yesterday. Whilst they had half their police forces escorting a group from Temple Meads for 2 hours they totally neglected the area around the ground. I got run up the Gloucester road at about 1.30pm. Police were not bothered because they know exactly who is looking for trouble and are not bothered about policing fans who arent looking for trouble.

Whilst I do have some respect that both Bristol clubs manage to turn the areas around their ground into 100% home areas, very intimidating. I do think this incident is a step way out of line.

I also think if Rovers ground share with us it will result in the deaths of 4 or 5 people next season, fans or just saturday night drinkers, Swindon or Bristol. Stabbings, glassings etc. Its nasty now, but it could get a whole lot worse.

I alaways thought you were fine if you weren't looking for trouble, and that is why I was sitting very comfortably in the beer garden. Obviously Rovers don't play by the 'rules'.

neither do some town fans.seen it myself.
attacking shirters is cowardly in all cases.and i bet every club in the land has had some so called fans doing it

I agree Spencer.

They wasted alot of man power escorting the group from Temple Meads and never gave a second thought to the pubs around the ground.

Police seem to think lads will only fight and attack lads.

Had there been a police presence at all the pubs including The Inn on the Green, maybe a little lad wouldn't be in hospital now.

Up until yesterday I was quite ambivalent about the groundshare issue - but after yesterday I'm totally against it. They did themselves no favours whatsoever.

Walked out of the ground and tried best to blend in with the leaving Rovers fans, only to see a group of around 20 Rovers' lads clearly looking for trouble on the corner of Gloucester Rd/Filton Av. I just got the hell out of there.

I went to the match with a mate who is a rovers fan. We sat in their main stand, with the wrinklies & all was Ok (I didn't wear colours). But we both suspected that their would be trouble, but thought it would only happen if we won.
We went to our local first & then got his missus to drop us off outside the ground. I've never seen so many coppers at a match for the last 10 yrs. Likewise when we came out of the ground, there were hundreds of coppers stood around collecting their overtime....But, a few streets away.. no police presense what so ever.

A few blokes started on each other when we were walking back to Montpelier. One bloke hit a plank of wood on another's back and it snapped into 2 with one half flying very close to LMS's head. There were families around just trying to get out the way. The policeman turned up a couple of minutes too late and just shouted at everyone to 'fucking go down there'.

The lack of policing was quite disconcerting really.

I walked passed a copper just stood there writing on his notepad  :shock:
I think the police were in the wrong places. There were too many outside the ground. I was walking along at half 2, and there was a policeman outside nearly every house. It was managed poorly.

We found a quiet pub on Gloucester road with a few swindon fans in. Saw the police escort, and they walked straight passed the John Talbot oub which is suicidile (sp?). Its a disgrace that it all kicked off. Cowards.


As for the swearing at football matches. Well what is there to say? 'The Referee is a bad man??' 'Oi, you nasty man'? Get real.

Police were shocking yesterday.  They put us in an escort at 12pm and didnt get us to the ground till 3.15.  They got us to the ground then they walked us all the way around it making us later.

Rovers lads are pathetic doing what they did.  To hit families and shirters is a joke.  I have no problem with people fighting of they are all wanting that but dont hit people not looking for it.

Bang out of order

i bet you started it all ash didint ya.

Nah, im a pussy!

I think the whole of Bristol went shopping where Bushey gets his clothes. I've never see so many stripey polos and the like

Has anybody concidered the fact that, if we don't secure 3rd spot, we could well be playing rovers at the memorial again in a few weeks time?

I drove down with my son and parked about a mile away (The opposite side from the away end) When we left the ground, we walked back round and joined the throng of rovers fans on there way out. Apart from the occassional 'scum' thrown in our direction, we didn't get any hassle at all.

I don't blame rovers for the trouble, just like I wouldn't blame us if there was aggro. It's the fucking scum bags who go just for trouble and align themselves to a club so they're in a mob.

Wankers.

Yeah, we walked back to the car afterwards with Rovers fans about....not a hint of trouble.

I was sporting Henri Lloyd yesterday too  :soapy tit wank:

I saw you Ralphy. You looked lovely in it  :gay:

Didn't say hello did you, you grumpy sod.

I was trying to calm down Alan  :D

What sort of a mess was Fred in? Did he make it back alive?

Ha ha.

Me and Alan had a good laugh in the Bishops Tavern before the game.

He was fine.

We went back to the pub after the match and then caught the 6.50pm from Montpeiler to Temple Meads.

I can report that Fred made it home safely, me and the missus gave him a lift home.

I got home, had a shower and went back out.

Never had my curry though. Settled for a BLT from the 24 hour garage.

Cheers Sam/Ralph...i do worry about Fred at times :P

He was very angry but that shows he is passionate.

I honestly thought old bill were gonna lift him before the match when he had a go at that punk rocker who got arrested  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

He's still angry today, he text me earlier.

why was alan angry?

Not sure why Alan was.

Probally because of the shit football like everyone else?

I can confirm that I arrived home safe and well (thanks Sam and Nickie)

Yes I am still angry, scenes like we witnessed have no place on football.

I text Mike Bowden earlier, asking him if he had heard about the poor people that got attacked.

That it should open their eyes about the ground share.

If the ground share goes ahead then they can all go fuck themselves as far as I'm concerned. end of

We have royally and truly fucked this up !

Alan wasn't angry, he was just a bit drunk.

ahh fred was angry, we'll have you smiling by next week mate, i hope you have someone to look after you, as its gonna be a messy sunday.

Be fun next saturday Fred.

If the groundshare goes ahead there is something seriously wrong with
a) The Board
b) The Police
c) The Football League
d) Life

 :D

Head steward told someone yesterday its not going to happen.

The police yesterday were saying yesterday they do not want to play at swindon

We aren't hosting the Inter-constabulary Cup as well are we?

 :shock:

Yeah you did didn't you,at my expense :evil:

As for yesterday makes me feel sick the thought of innocent football fans getting attacked like that,no way can this ground share go ahead now it would be absloute madness.

Sorry larwood  :D

I was in a black top and on my phone, and stuck my head out of the door about 5 mins before it all kicked off to try and find a table, then went back in.............maybe they mistook me??

I agree with all the posts that this was shocking. Another thing was after the game they just let all the rovers and swindon fans walk together. We had a long treck to the train station and could have been attacked at any point with no police about. What a waste a of money the police were!!!

Regarding the standing up and swearing at football. Seriously are you having a laugh? What do you expect at a rovers v swindon match especially with the importance of it. Im sorry if you dont like it, then dont go. If i wanna stand up and call the ref a cunt i will! I agree with everything you said Ralphy.............I now know who you are  8)

Has Bowden responded yet Fred? Just watched the htv evening news and there was no mention of any trouble. Perhaps someone should flag this up to Points West AND Htv news. I would, but i wasnt there so it needs someone who WAS there to do it.

The police like to do all they can to not publicise these type of events. I for one think it needs to be publiscied how shocking the police were yesterday and what a bunch of pussies they are attacking a pub full of families in shirts!

I'm sure Chris K will bring it to their attention Millom.

God forbid we get them in the playoffs.

Yes he has Millom.

He was completely unaware of it and was genuinely very concerned.

Lets hope that it opens the boards eyes to the potential catastrophy they are dabbling with

I'm not saying our fans are angels because we know some of them are not, but from what I've heard about some of those bristol rovers is absolutely disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves. Another thing that pissed me off is the amount of gangs of kids that I've never even see at a swindon match before who went yesterday purely for a fight,when some other fans could'nt get tickets.Bloody part timers.

As far as the football is concerned, WE ARE GOING UP SATURDAY and that is that. I have all faith in paul sturrock and I really do think the lads will play their hearts out last game. We're good at home and we will be very fired up.
I think most of us knew we'd lost to rovers really, to be fair to them they are not a bad side at all. Swindon however looked highly un interested in the first half, the only real positive I could pick up on is the way they came out in the second half and played better and how fantastic Ifil was. Still was not really a good performance though. But once again I think we'll do it saturday and its going to be so sweet as I know we're all pretty disapointed that we could'nt just finish everything off yesterday. But thats football isnt it! Chin up people! Saturday will be great  :D  we'll do it.

I've heard from my sauces that it was you starting all the trouble Sade. What do you have to say for your self?

I have to say sorry. I sometimes just can't help myself. You should of seen it Nath,dv abd rich all had to hold me back I was like a raging lion.It was that bloody vicky pollard lookalike after the game in her rovers shirt.Stupid bint :D

Sade, did Shaun Hodgetts interview you before the game yesterday?

He was speaking to someone with a 'Becks 18' on their Town shirt, and I thought it might be you.

If its a case of mistaken identity on my part, I'm sorry.

That was not me no :D  I would have ran a mile if he came over to me.

I walked/staggered past Sade after the game, and the look she gave me was pure evil. It's always the quiet ones..  :wink:

Sade was stood outside with Tails and DV, I reckon they were waiting for the Gas yoof.

:D Hah. Thats exactly what we were doing, hence my evil face(I was trying to single out the female rovers fans as I think I stood a better chance). The police sussed us in the end and asked us to move on. Dv was well up for it. Tails was scared and wet himself though.

My son is now home,he is 28 by the way not a little lad. It appears that an operation will not be required, which is good news. with regard to the spotter,  there were two lads in the garden just before the attack, one in Rovers colours and one in a black shirt but with an old Swindon scarf, on reflection that did seem rather odd, and i now think they called the bastards in. What made me even more incensed was that whilst Simon was being taken to the First Aid room behind the main stand in obvious distress the "normal" Rovers fans were shouting abuse at him which I think was totally out of order. I cannot comprehend how anyone can still consider a groundshare with these people. I know our Board are not the brightest but surely this is obvious, even to them!
Roll on next Saturday! :beers:

I hope he is ok now and not too shaken Pete.

It can take a while to get over these terrible incidents as i well know.

Good news Pete, hope he recovers and no lasting damage.

Yep great news. I hope it doesnt put you or your son off future matches.

Best wishes to your son Pete.

Hope your son makes a speedy and full recovery, Pete.

I remember the Rovers fan you mentioned in your earlier post.  It could have been anyone who called the mob round, to be honest.  You may be right - but sadly, I'm sure we'll never know.

I certainly will not be hurrying back to the Inn on the Green in future, which is a shame because they had a great selection of beers.

It was a great little pub - it wasn't their fault -  it was just full of Swindon, there wasn't a copper within 500 yards and it had a nice easy entrance into the beer garden. Add that to a lack of any Swindon 'lads'and the abundance of families it was too good an offer for Rovers to turn down.

if the Swindon 'lads' hadn't pussied off and hid somewhere the Rovers 'lad's would have probably been occupied in their little game of kiss-chase they play.

Good god. I can't help myself.

bopard

Hope your son makes a full recovery, Pete.

Regarding your comment about comprehending considering a groundshare with Rovers, well you're talking about the board of Swindon Town FC here, who seemingly don't care what the ordinary fan wants, because all they care about is one thing...money, as proved by Mr Bowden's comments at the Speedway the other week.

what were his comments?

he said that Bushey likes to swallow aids-seamen

it was a one off.

Apparently he was looking forward to getting in £100k from Rovers...

Don't know if that included VAT though !!

Sounds like it was a fucking war zone at times in bristol yesterday. I didn't hear of or see any trouble the whole afternoon. I only heard about it on the way home and here again in the evening. Guess i was just lucky to be in the right places. My sympathy to anyone caught up or injured. Good luck to Petes son with his arm injury by the way.

A&S plod seem to have fucked up by banking on the 'honour' tradition of firms only attacking each other. Benefit of hindsight and all that but the city of bristol is well known for its hefty contingent of retards. Why the fuck didn't A&S police the local fucking pubs properly? I saw countless Robocops in and near the ground but little or no plod in the streets comming away from the ground, which is where a lot of the shit went down!

If our board allow rovers to ground share with us I agree with the man who predicted earlier that deaths will probably follow. Sad, but true.

In today's Adver:

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/swindonnewsheadlines/display.var.1363159.0.thugs_baseball_attack_on_town_fans.php

Interestingly, this item has not been treated as a sport/football story either - it's in the main body of the paper, which is good news.  It's also encouraging to see the violence being linked with the ground share issue as well.

I haven't said this for a while...but well done the Swindon Adver.

It's not just in the main body - it's the lead story on the front page, together with half-page pic of fan being led off by robocobs and a two-page spread inside. Just hope "Joe Public" realises this was Rovers not us, and we don't all get tarred with the same brush.

Considering the headline, you'd hope Joe Public gets the jist of the story.

Anyone got a link to the article on front page and the picture paul mentioned?

Crikey sound like we made a wise choice staying in the city centre then.  We had a few beers in the weatherspoons at Temple Quay, then taxied to the ground, most of the pub was gloucester rugby fans and the coppers just popped their heads in.  After the game having no idea where to head to get a train to Temple Meads, we walked all the way back - didn't see or hear of any real trouble, andthen realisd we walked all the way thru St Pauls - perhaps as 5 white guys it wasn't the wisest move.  

Its gutting to hear some of the stories of what happened, the police seem be concerned (and rightly so) about keeping the firms apart, but have an apparent lack of concern about the 99% majority who just want a beer and to watch the game, and need to be protected - why wasn't there 2 or 3 coppers at every pub on the gloucester road - surely such a visible deterant would help prevent trouble whilst giving 'joe public' a heightened sense of protection.

Pete I hope your son is recovered and you can enjoy a better feeling next weekend.

There's a nice picture of Spuddy in the Adver  :D

Policeman told us he thought it was going to be Cheltenham - hope he's right

hahahahaha ive just seen it.  :D

I was worried that they might have one of me and Fred dancing around like complete and utter twats when we thought MK were losing.

hahaha they would have had to take a pic of everybody then mate.

Ha ha, damn you being so tall Spud, you blocked me from the picture!!

I know the kiddy on the front page too. His parents will be so proud.

We're all football fans, therefore we are all violent hooligans. This is fact.

Anyway I don't give a fuck if we get tarred with that brush if it prevents Rovers from playing here next season.

It seems to me that Swindon fans are guilty of short memories and double standards.Whilst I in no way condone what happened as it was sickening cowardly attack lets not forget what happened at Gillingham.Now you can argue that it was lads on lads but there were without any shadow of a doubt innocent fans ands families caught up in that and alot of people from this forum reveled in it and not just the "lads" on here either.Now im not saying its payback but if you effectivly condone what happened there or make excuses for it then you should expect incidents like this at any football ground.

Or is it only terrible when its our own hurt and scared?

to be honest yeovil, that post is spot on.  The thing is at gillingham it wasnt swindon going into a pub full of shirters and familys but still same sentiments.

I stand by my opinions. I think what those Rovers 'lads' did was wrong.

I didn't go to Gillingham and don't even know what happened there to be honest, so I can't comment on that.

So, from my point of view I just see it as an unprovoked attack on innocent people.

We've got just as many arseholes as any other club - and they were out in force on saturday - it winds me up seeing such dense low-lifes getting a kick out of ruining other people's day and thinking they've won themselves a little battle -

The Gills/Rovers comparisons only work to an extent, I totally agree with what you're saying YR but there is one huge difference; people involved at Gillingham wanted it, the families in the pub in Bristol didn't.

Frankly I don't give a toss if two groups of lads want to have a fight with each other like they did at Gillingham, they're not doing anyone other than themselves any harm. It's when innocent bystanders become involved - like at Gills apparently - and on Saturday, suppose you could apply it to some of what happened in the Arkells back in December but I wasn't sat there so I can't comment on what exactly happened but it looks as though seats were ripped up from both sides.

I think for the well being of Swindon that can only be a good thing.  :D

He was 2 years below me in school.

right twat

Slightly different tack but I was minding my own business in Bath on Saturday morning when the town centre was plunged into chaos from about 20 Swindon fans wandering around yelling "we are sturrocks red and white army"  Looked like it caught the Bath Rozzers off guard.  Anyone admit responsibility bloody louts :D

I know who that was....(not me though)

indeed he was. He was in my year at Dorcan.

go on Si spill the beans!  I couldn't work out whether it was a deliberate beer-stop or whether the lads had got booted off the train at Bath - it looked like they's had a skinful and it was only half ten

There were loads in Bath from very early on.

It's sad and pathetic what happened at the weekend. Well done to the Adver for running the story in what seems to be a truthful manner rather than trying to make something more/different of it.

As for what happened at Gills, I didn't see it, but any fighting is just stupid and I would never condone it. That is why I feel justified in my opinions about Rovers

Its already been mentioned but doesn anybody have the pictures from
(page 5 was it?!) of the Adver?

Update

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7022404.stm

i wonder if it was that cunt nick endicott. also do they still have there bebo sites with that fat cunt in the classroom  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: