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« Reply #75 on: Thursday, April 20, 2017, 16:37:13 » |
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Yet Labour had a sniff of power and turned into Diet Tory?
Think it was the other way round to be pedantic, but your point stands
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« Reply #77 on: Thursday, April 20, 2017, 16:42:42 » |
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Think it was the other way round to be pedantic, but your point stands Possibly, although I still think that Mandy et al identified what would work (i.e. Tory lite) and positioned themselves accordingly.
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« Reply #78 on: Thursday, April 20, 2017, 16:46:51 » |
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FYI we spend 4 times more on the national debt interest payments than we do foreign aid.
And to think, if we used that money to assist with the debt reduction. Every little helps!!
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« Reply #79 on: Thursday, April 20, 2017, 17:54:58 » |
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Possibly, although I still think that Mandy et al identified what would work (i.e. Tory lite) and positioned themselves accordingly.
Er, yeah, that was what I meant. I think I may have whooshed myself
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Posh Red
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« Reply #80 on: Thursday, April 20, 2017, 18:14:46 » |
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FYI we spend 4 times more on the national debt interest payments than we do foreign aid.
And to think, if we used that money to assist with the debt reduction. Every little helps!!
Just imagine what we could do with £200bn
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« Reply #81 on: Friday, April 21, 2017, 07:57:32 » |
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Just imagine what we could do with £200bn
Nothing, remember Power would just pocket it all.
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« Reply #82 on: Friday, April 21, 2017, 08:02:18 » |
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I hate politics and don't understand voters who have overly strong political beliefs. No party can be 100% perfect. Any canvassers who come to my house will all get the same response, whichever party they represent
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« Reply #83 on: Friday, April 21, 2017, 09:00:33 » |
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Jezza's is in Swindon this morning, hope all you Labour voters will be there to welcome and support him.
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« Reply #84 on: Friday, April 21, 2017, 09:09:02 » |
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Nothing, remember Power would just pocket it all. I actually meant the country rather than STFC, but you're still probably right
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« Reply #85 on: Friday, April 21, 2017, 09:14:40 » |
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Did we do one of these at the 2015 election? Would be quite interesting to see the difference. Im sure the Kippers would have had a lot more supporters then.
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« Reply #86 on: Friday, April 21, 2017, 09:51:42 » |
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I would not be particularly surprised if UKIP folded all together within the next 12 months or so. The party's primary objective was achieved last year; and the Tories have moved to the right during the last few years and now occupy much the same space on a lot of issues. Add to that their tendency towards infighting, punching each other and to changing their leader every 5 mins...it's probably time to call it a day.
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« Reply #87 on: Friday, April 21, 2017, 09:55:19 » |
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I would not be particularly surprised if UKIP folded all together within the next 12 months or so. The party's primary objective was achieved last year; and the Tories have moved to the right during the last few years and now occupy much the same space on a lot of issues. Add to that their tendency towards infighting, punching each other and to changing their leader every 5 mins...it's probably time to call it a day.
Plus Farage and their major backer Aaron Banks are setting up a new hard-right populist party, The Patriotic Alliance, backed by some of the same people that backed Trump in the US. Don't think UKIP will fold, just fade into irrelevance. But Farage/Banks' new project look like they could be a very nasty bunch indeed
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« Reply #88 on: Friday, April 21, 2017, 11:47:16 » |
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Jezza's is in Swindon this morning, hope all you Labour voters will be there to welcome and support him.
These things are usually filled with people they know support the leader, I saw the picture of him earlier and wondered who the people at the front were holding the vote labour placards, conveniently a very diverse bunch.
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« Reply #89 on: Friday, April 21, 2017, 12:21:06 » |
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Plus Farage and their major backer Aaron Banks are setting up a new hard-right populist party, The Patriotic Alliance, backed by some of the same people that backed Trump in the US. Don't think UKIP will fold, just fade into irrelevance. But Farage/Banks' new project look like they could be a very nasty bunch indeed
The problem with UKIP is it started off with good intentions with many intelligent disillusioned people from other parties who from the outset wanted an alternative to the mainstream parties, only to have it hijacked by an alcoholic, cocaine snorting, womanising, thieving sociopath. As a result, yes I agree, UKIP will fade into obscurity. Arron Banks is equally clueless as I discovered when I met him just before the referendum campaign about having an EU exit plan and organising a campaign on the back of that. The damning indictment of him is he - and Farage -couldn't even win the official leave designation against "vote leave" which was stuffed full of Tory boys who didn't want to leave and didn't even fulfill the Electoral Commission criteria. Banks' only response to criticism that politics is not like running a business was dismissed with "I started my company with a desk and telephone, so I know more than you". A bit like Trump really.
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