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sorry if this has been done, but I'm far to lazy to look.

Lets all pretend for a second, that SBC, weren't a bunch of retards, and that they
actually gave a shit about the club, and we could re develop the ground.

Would we want a soulless reading like plastic bowl to be built , what could be done to the ground to make it a
bit special , and different from those graveyards.

Something like, 1 end of the ground being sit were you like , first come first served,  these special singing areas sound a bit
fucking gay , it should just be the norm.

Not sure where it stands nowadays but it would be nice to pursue the old safe standing once again.

Stick a structure or a couple of towers on top anything to break up the shape really and make it easily identifiable as a landmark without looking like a white elephant.

I agree, bring back the good old fashioned terrace!

We could shape the main stand like a train to reflect the towns proud history, the tunnel could be a replica of the classy underpass at Swindon Railway station

It should have a roof like the circus tent market on commercial road

The designs yesterday impressed me but were a bit generic, which is the curse of the modern satdium, and what i like about Huddersfiels and Bolton where they've been a bit brave with the design.  

Ideally I'd love safe standing, but from what' been said by Tony Blair, there is no chance of it ever.  If they do rotate the ground I think it'd be nice to have some difference between the stands, something a bit lower on the Startton Bank side near the houses and a really nice main stand on teh Town End side.  Personally I like the stands to arc a bit and not have a flat roof, and it'd be nice for the floodlights to stand out a bit.  I am somewhat unconvinced of a bowl stadium too, it might be nice to have separate stands in some parts too, with a big screen in the corners. My main hope aside from it actually happening at all is that it's bit different/unique, and obviously better than the worst new stadium I'v ebeen too at the Kassam!

 The underpass before it got tarted up around the 70's, was classic, very similar to the one into the Village site from by the Mechanics....a Victorian construct, but always dripping, which facilitated the commencement of a growth of stalagmites and scalactites....neverthless the frisson of excitement generated by entry into this grotto, as a Warship class 42 B-B Diesel, rolled over the top hauling, say The Cornish Riviera Express took some beating.

 The anticipation of an away game always letting rip with a bit of echoing chanting as the then hordes would gather for a football special.

I think someone should re spray paint STFC K 2 K on the railway bridge leading up to County Rd :D

Im not sure what this has do with anything in this thread though.

We need to stop modernising football, most of the new ideas are shit.

I want 4 individual stands, floodlights, on big pylons, you can see for miles.

I want the football special back

I want terrace

I want cheaper tickets

If I could have the above, I really would not give a shit if Swindon were playing well or not,

We should make our new ground old school, as long as the bogs don't over flow with piss, and they understand that now and again
people may need a shit, the older the better.

Mr Ben, I might have some ld asbestos round the back of my shed you can have for teh old school roof.  Floodlights are OK, maybe we can go on slavage missions to places like Donny when they move grounds, and pick up the bits you need.  I want the brick dug outs back, with home and away written on them in a different colour of brick.  While we're at it how about 1970s beer prices too!

Mattboyslim, good ideas, why stop,  we could have
afro cuts
flairs


a bit of asbetos has to be good for you

Salvage could be good, i think thats how we got shivvy road.

I just want a football ground, the hotels and other stuff to make some cash on the outside

I had an afro until the spring, you should hav ewarned me, it'll take months to grow back.

 I like the idea of retro graffiti, STAB K2K one of the better efforts.

 Up until at least quite recently it may still be there, the Gorse Hill bridge had Go To Mansfield.

  Endean is a wanker.

From the 85/86 title winning season I believe...

what does K 2 K mean? :oops:

You are joking??

Kick to Kill

we still have asbestos  :D

i agree about 4 seperate stands, i'm not keen on these bowl type thingies. big fuck off floodlights are a must.

Having been there, I like Boavista's ground. Not the 'super bowl' shaped but traditionnal looking stands including safe standing.

http://www.eurotopfoot.com/img/bessa.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/l15tfc/boavista.jpg

was that stadium used in euro 2004?

err, you mean like the Stadium we have now?

Why not leave the stadium as it is and just build a hotel and conference facilites on the town end car park, problem solved :D

Yeah. I saw Russia Spain game there  8)

was safe standing in use for that game?

Its in use all the time. Basically they have seats with poles in front so you can stand if you want. It stops the person in front of you getting crushed.

nice.

if they can have standing at a match in a packed stadium during euro 2004, why the fuck can't we have it at the county ground?

Because they don't want to create an electric atmosphere and for fans to get behind the team  :-))(  Feckin Stewards!  :evil:

Because the people in charge aren't football fans, or at least they aren't the type who would ever stand and shout their team.

I can understand the knee-jerk reaction to Hillsborough, but not why the same thinking is dominant in 2005.

As regards the County Ground I'd like a 20,000 capacity, Three single tier stands and one double, two of the stands with safe standing at the front.  I'd design all the stands with accoustics in mind, and I'd sell Magner's and Red Stripe.  As it stands I'll settle for a concrete bowl that serves Carling.

Lord Taylor stated that the subject of standing at football could be reviewed after his death.
Now he's dead, its still an evil subject , such as has been stated a knee jerk reaction,
fans are harder to control in terraces, you move more freely , hide more effectively.

We have 1 very bad tragedy, but terrace was not the only factor, fences were needed back in the 80's, they
are not now, they played a major part in what happened, would it have been better if there had been seats ,
say it was unreserved seating, fans still would have pushed into the middle pen, it still would have been overcrowded,
the fences still would have blocked the best means of escape.

There are some big reasons why the fa. fl and authorities will not allow terracing in this country , even though it has been proven to be safe,
and workable in other countries.
But what are they, if you ask they will hide behind the Taylor report, they say the same thing will happen again.

I say they are lying bastards

sorry moan over

True,lest we forget the seriously  inept and inhuman police at Sheffield that day as well.

the chances of something similar to hillsborough occuring is next to none surely? seating or terracing, doesn't make a difference.

I dont mind what it look like as long as it's pink.

This looks nice.

http://www.millenniumstadium.com/images/news/News-mardigras-2005-07-15.gif

It can never go back to how it was, but that's why you need a compromise.  At the moment the authorities are at the other end of the spectrum.

Continental Europe don't have problems, so why should we. IMO stewards and the police cause confrontations anycase.

i don't see still how terracing is not allowed....

at hillsbrough, the crushing and deaths came about by stupid stewards and stupid security fences, not standing.

Johno, Safe standing isn't just terracing- they have seats aswell. The poles are on every row. For example:

http://www.truststfc.co.uk/img/standing.jpg

This basically means that everyone gets a ticket and cannot over populate the stand.

They have Safe stading areas in Holland and Germany at the top level and have no problem. The biggest problem with hillsborough was there was no control over how manay people were in what section. All you need is a limit to a safe number (like pubs have a limited number they can have in at any one time)

I like that picture, that would remove the "cascade" effect that is often rolled out to get rid of standing.  The safe standing areas that the FLA looked at were the German model of a terrace that can have seat put into it, or vice versa - this one seems to cover all the bases.

Well I've experienced the 'safe standing' at was fine. That was at full capacity aswell. its the government that won't comprise yet again.

cheers for the pic mate.

i wasn't questionning safe standing though, bit confused. but anywho, safe standing is a good idea...swindon could maybe set the example for the future! sitting down ruins games.

I'd rather have a soulless ground than not have a club at all.

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