Rangers Fans.

[SwindonTartanArmy]

Isn't the McCrone report about teaching? Have you read it STA?

no, its about how the government has lied abotu North sea oil income since the 1970s. I have read bits of it but its a bit heavy going for my liking.


actually there was also a Mccrone report abotu teaching but thats not the one im on about


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/how-black-gold-was-hijacked-north-sea-oil-and-the-betrayal-of-scotland-518697.html

[SwindonTartanArmy]

Yes as long as we get to keep OUR oil.

It's not your oil - sea boundaries follow the national boundary so it's our fucking oil - give us the fucking money back for unclogging all your arteries!

try reading the The Continental Shelf Act 1964 and the Continental Shelf (Jurisdiction) Order 1968.

Antything north of 55 degrees Lat is Scottish. Equates to about 90% of it

[flammableBen]

So are you for Scottish Independence STA? Are there any other arguments for it about from just general nationalism / grr.. at english? North Sea Oil is fairly short term income stream, what would Scotland be left with when that ran out, presuming of course you could keep the infrastructure, got to renegotiate contracts with drilling companies etc.? What about currency, would you be pro-euro for scotland, or stay with the pound?

So many questions yet to much laziness to do my own research into the subject

[SwindonTartanArmy]

Im pro independence, yes. A large part of it for me is the fact that Some much of the worlc see GB and england as the same thing. One of the most infuriating things is talking to some yank and them saying "oh your from Scaatland, thats in England, isnt it?" A big factor for me is if the ROI can be successful as an independent country why cant Scotland? They certainly dont have the natural resources that Scotland has. Obviously oil isnt Scotland only income. Tourism and Whisky brings in a huge amount. Edinburgh is a huge financial centre and RBOS is actually the second largest bank in Europe. And I believe that businesses will thrive upon independence after ROI style tax breaks for overseas companies etc. Post independence, I would have a problem with the Euro.

[herthab]

Im pro independence, yes. A large part of it for me is the fact that Some much of the worlc see GB and england as the same thing. One of the most infuriating things is talking to some yank and them saying "oh your from Scaatland, thats in England, isnt it?" A big factor for me is if the ROI can be successful as an independent country why cant Scotland? They certainly dont have the natural resources that Scotland has. Obviously oil isnt Scotland only income. Tourism and Whisky brings in a huge amount. Edinburgh is a huge financial centre and RBOS is actually the second largest bank in Europe. And I believe that businesses will thrive upon independence after ROI style tax breaks for overseas companies etc. Post independence, I would have a problem with the Euro.

Well fuck off back up there then.

Or do you have to live down here to earn decent money?

[SwindonTartanArmy]

Im pro independence, yes. A large part of it for me is the fact that Some much of the worlc see GB and england as the same thing. One of the most infuriating things is talking to some yank and them saying "oh your from Scaatland, thats in England, isnt it?" A big factor for me is if the ROI can be successful as an independent country why cant Scotland? They certainly dont have the natural resources that Scotland has. Obviously oil isnt Scotland only income. Tourism and Whisky brings in a huge amount. Edinburgh is a huge financial centre and RBOS is actually the second largest bank in Europe. And I believe that businesses will thrive upon independence after ROI style tax breaks for overseas companies etc. Post independence, I would have a problem with the Euro.

Well fuck off back up there then.

Or do you have to live down here to earn decent money?

Keeps an english person out of a job  

Plus its too far if I am gonna get a season ticket in the DR stand.

[herthab]

Good point well made.

[Luci]

Nah sod it, we don't want your jock tainted money  

[Bogus Dave]

Ireland get (or got) a  lot of funding from the EU though. Would scotland get the same...

[leefer]

If that had been Man U or Chelsea fans behaving like that in Glasgow the Scots would be going barmy.....20 fans beating a copper isnt hard its pure cowardice and gang mentality..

[janaage]

"If that had been Man U or Chelsea fans behaving like that in Glasgow the Scots would be going barmy.....20 fans beating a copper isnt hard its pure cowardice and gang mentality.."

Leefer the Scots are going mad about THIS.  Do you think they don;t care about what happened, or are pissed off at the way the gers fans have disgraced the nation?  

I haven't heard anyone supporting the Manchester events.

[pauld]

If that had been Man U or Chelsea fans behaving like that in Glasgow the Scots would be going barmy.....20 fans beating a copper isnt hard its pure cowardice and gang mentality..

Not quite so much prominence given to the fact that it was a Rangers fan who got the copper out of it, according to an interview with the copper himself on the BBC. But then that doesn't fit quite so well with the "hero cop/savage animal football fans" tabloid agenda does it?