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Title: your first choice xi Post by: DMR on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 14:20:06 when everyone's back and available? any of the stand-ins done enough to replace the ashes boys? i don't think so, hence mines the same side as the ashes 5th test.
mine in batting order; tresco strauss vaughan (c) kp collingwood flintoff (captaincy's not great and seems to have affected his form) g jones (wk- no quality alternative) giles (until panaesar improves batting and fielding) hoggard harmy s jones Title: your first choice xi Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 14:38:54 Living in the USA I obviously don't get to see alot of cricket. However, your team concerns me greatly as you have 3 batsmen (kp, pc & ff) who are not 'proper' batsmen but are 'swishers'. I'd like to see another batsman who could grind for hours on a poor track if necessary.
NMH Title: your first choice xi Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 14:46:06 is simon jones ever going to be fit again? seems to be suffering from one injury after another.
i like monty, but giles is the better option due to the fact he can bat and field. don't rate collingwood hugely, would rather see bell Title: your first choice xi Post by: STFC Village on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 16:22:50 Paul Collingwood a "swisher"? You must be thinking of someone else NHM :?
I agree with Dave's line-up, starting to think Panesar might be pushing ahead of Gilo though..... Title: your first choice xi Post by: Spud on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 16:39:08 Quote from: "sonic youth" is simon jones ever going to be fit again? seems to be suffering from one injury after another. i like monty, but giles is the better option due to the fact he can bat and field. don't rate collingwood hugely, would rather see bell :shock: Collingwood's fielding alone makes him worthy of his place in the side. Title: your first choice xi Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 16:53:05 Quote from: "STFC Village" Paul Collingwood a "swisher"? You must be thinking of someone else NHM :? I agree with Dave's line-up, starting to think Panesar might be pushing ahead of Gilo though..... No, deffo Collingwood. Failed technic, all bottom hand, bat comes down at an angle. Not a bowler, not a batsman, good athlete with a safe pair of hands. Think thats him ? No ? NMH Title: your first choice xi Post by: STFC Village on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 17:34:51 Collingwood is a solid bat, provides good foil for KP and Freddie, very difficult to get out. Certainly not a "swisher", if by that term, you mean a Billy Bigshot
Title: your first choice xi Post by: DMR on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 18:02:22 Quote from: "Nomoreheroes" Quote from: "STFC Village" Paul Collingwood a "swisher"? You must be thinking of someone else NHM :? I agree with Dave's line-up, starting to think Panesar might be pushing ahead of Gilo though..... No, deffo Collingwood. Failed technic, all bottom hand, bat comes down at an angle. Not a bowler, not a batsman, good athlete with a safe pair of hands. Think thats him ? No ? NMH You've got him nailed accept his technique is more textbook than anyone in the side. Title: your first choice xi Post by: Boeta on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 20:38:34 Quote from: "dave_m_russell" Quote from: "Nomoreheroes" Quote from: "STFC Village" Paul Collingwood a "swisher"? You must be thinking of someone else NHM :? I agree with Dave's line-up, starting to think Panesar might be pushing ahead of Gilo though..... No, deffo Collingwood. Failed technic, all bottom hand, bat comes down at an angle. Not a bowler, not a batsman, good athlete with a safe pair of hands. Think thats him ? No ? NMH You've got him nailed accept his technique is more textbook than anyone in the side. other than cook. Title: your first choice xi Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 20:44:16 my 11 = anyone who isn't in the team now!
Title: your first choice xi Post by: strooood on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 22:05:04 is harmison injured or something?
in 2004 he was floating around the top end of the world bowling ratings and looked truly unstoppable on harder tracks. did plunkett get the nod over him or is he out through injury? Title: your first choice xi Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 22:06:49 he's injured dex, playing for durham to get some fitness and stuff before the pakistan tests
Title: your first choice xi Post by: strooood on Sunday, June 4, 2006, 22:20:40 good... to be honest i havent been impressed with plunkett or panesar enough for them to edge anyone out.
like dave said, as much as i like panesar his feilding and batting aren't good enough for him to replace gilo, and so far plunkett has just looked like a run of the mill seamer who leaks a few too many runs. admittedly i havent seen much of him outside of the internationals though. definetely harmison and giles please Title: your first choice xi Post by: larwood on Monday, June 5, 2006, 06:12:52 Quote as much as i like panesar his feilding Didn't you hear? the reason he's no good is because he's been wearing the wrong contact lense :doh: Quote my 11 = anyone who isn't in the team now! Of course,so you wouldn't have Freddie,who happens to be one of the best players in the world,in your team,right :-))( Title: your first choice xi Post by: Johno on Monday, June 5, 2006, 11:52:26 i reckon andy caddick should get a call up? no?? :soapy tit wank:
anyway, i think vaughan will come back in for cook. Simon Jones and harmy willcome back into as will giles. Title: your first choice xi Post by: Esso #13 on Wednesday, July 19, 2006, 10:38:04 Trescothick
Strauss Vaughan (c) Pietersen Collingwood Flintoff G Jones (w) Giles - until Monty improves batting and fielding Harmison Hoggard S Jones Title: your first choice xi Post by: cib on Thursday, July 20, 2006, 19:38:05 Tresco
Strauss Vaughan (c) Pietersen Collingwood Flintoff Read/Foster (w) Giles Hoggy Harmison Jones Title: your first choice xi Post by: Esso #13 on Thursday, July 20, 2006, 20:14:32 Quote from: "cib" Tresco Strauss Vaughan (c) Pietersen Collingwood Flintoff Read/Foster (w) Giles Hoggy Harmison Jones not read. his batting is a let down Title: your first choice xi Post by: cib on Thursday, July 20, 2006, 21:23:05 Quote from: "!!EsSo!!" Quote from: "cib" Tresco Strauss Vaughan (c) Pietersen Collingwood Flintoff Read/Foster (w) Giles Hoggy Harmison Jones not read. his batting is a let down Geraint Jones averages 23 in all first class cricket this summer, not getting above 19 for England. but improving behind the pegs Foster averages 36 for Essex and has highest score of 101* Title: your first choice xi Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, July 20, 2006, 21:29:00 Give Jones as many county matches to play in as those two, and im sure he'd have got a century aswell by now. Its just that playing for england limits you to about 5 or 6 county games a season, and not enough time to do much for his average.
Title: your first choice xi Post by: cib on Thursday, July 20, 2006, 21:35:32 Thats a fair point, but i cant see why he is still in the side when he isnt contributing with the bat. Maybe playing a couple more games for Kent could help, i.e Plunkett for Durham.
Title: your first choice xi Post by: Esso #13 on Friday, July 21, 2006, 10:06:56 Quote from: "cib" Quote from: "!!EsSo!!" Quote from: "cib" Tresco Strauss Vaughan (c) Pietersen Collingwood Flintoff Read/Foster (w) Giles Hoggy Harmison Jones not read. his batting is a let down Geraint Jones averages 23 in all first class cricket this summer, not getting above 19 for England. but improving behind the pegs Foster averages 36 for Essex and has highest score of 101* Give Jones the same amount of county games as Read and you'll see centuries in no time. His 85 against the Aussies last summer was almost perfect stroke play, and his handling has improved vastly Title: your first choice xi Post by: DMR on Friday, July 21, 2006, 19:00:39 This debate will go on whoever's in the side. At the end of the day Jones is the best out of a very weak bunch.
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