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Title: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 18:49:08
EITHER FUCKING SHOOT OR PASS TO COX, NOT PICK OUT THE ONLY CHELTENHAM MAN IN THE AREA, YOU INBRED FUCKING CUNTMONKEY AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:02:25
sounds like the team in general were shit.mcgovern is a scapegoat imo,as is aljofree and paynter.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:03:43
not just saying this but in the final third mcgovern was about as useful as vannesa feltz in a brothel


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Luci on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:05:48
JP really disappointed me today.  Anyone else see him getting a bit stroppy at the final whistle towards some town fans?  Appeared to mouth something along the lines of "wanker" toward them.

Im not however saying he was the worst as several played badly today.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Dirk Diggler on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:09:48
Thought that JP was average when a number including Aljofree & Peacock were decidely below average.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: JPC82 on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:11:18
i thought the whole team was awful, yet against Tranmere we know how good these same players can be, lets not panic, we know we would lose games during a 46 game season, YES 46 GAMES!!! lets forget this 1 game and move on


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: stfc11 on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:12:48
JP really disappointed me today.  Anyone else see him getting a bit stroppy at the final whistle towards some town fans?  Appeared to mouth something along the lines of "wanker" toward them.

Im not however saying he was the worst as several played badly today.

Was just about to ask if anyone saw that, some town fans behind me were shouting he was shit and to fuck off etc and i saw him react in someway out the corner of my eye but i wasn't sure what he said/did to them.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Luci on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:14:33
Yeah well thats what I saw, not sure exactly the wording though but that really p*ssed me off.  over 1000 fans went to Chelt, least he could have done was show some respect.  Seems to have a bit of an attitude which I am increasingly disliking.   I still think hes massively over rated.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: JPC82 on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:17:31
Yeah well thats what I saw, not sure exactly the wording though but that really p*ssed me off.  over 1000 fans went to Chelt, least he could have done was show some respect.  Seems to have a bit of an attitude which I am increasingly disliking.   I still think hes massively over rated.

Respect? isnt it a two way thing? he being called shit and told to fuck off wasnt he? he played as poor as the rest, was was he singled out by the crowd? i missed the incident so dunno if the players got battered and only he reacted


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:17:52
Was just about to ask if anyone saw that, some town fans behind me were shouting he was shit and to fuck off etc and i saw him react in someway out the corner of my eye but i wasn't sure what he said/did to them.

well fair play to him then.i take it our proportion of prick so called fans were there today?
scapegoat seems to be right in his case.he was man of the match last week.no doubt another loss will have malpas's head called for.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Luci on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:18:44
I only mentioned respect cause of his reaction.  None of the others reacted the same way when the crowd gave them a hard time thats all.



Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: JPC82 on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:20:19
I only mentioned respect cause of his reaction.  None of the others reacted the same way when the crowd gave them a hard time thats all.

oh ok, i wasnt having a go, just wondered if he was singled out




Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:22:21
i thinj he was singled out a little, although timlin had just as bad a game imo. and peacock was gash. its just the fact the left back slipped twice allowing mcgovern free run at goal both times yet we didnt create anything that makes it seem worse


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Luci on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:22:44
I don't really know what happened as wasn't near us, just saw a bit of an altercation thats all.  Anyway lets hope we can move on from this and get a win v Colchester next weekend!

Its very easy to take frustrations a bit too far, especially after a few drinks so I guess whatever was said will be water under the bridge by next weekend.

*touches wood* :D


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:25:04
To be fair to the chap, wer were right in the corner by the corner flag and we were encouraging him towards the end and he seemed to appreciate that.

Just seems to react to what he gets really.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: stfc11 on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:26:20
Yeah the people behind me defiantly singled him they shouted McGovern out and made sure he was listening and had turned around then just shouted shit at him


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: stfc11 on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:28:42
well fair play to him then.i take it our proportion of prick so called fans were there today?
scapegoat seems to be right in his case.he was man of the match last week.no doubt another loss will have malpas's head called for.

Yep had some right idiots behind me, apparently we're doomed to relegation and won't win another away match this season, aswell as that all our players are useless and Malpas should be sacked!


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:33:15
telling the bloke he's shit and should fuck off will inspire him to turn it on next week.he is a robot without feelings after all.
honestly i despair some of the times


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Luci on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:34:44
Cant believe some people were saying Malpas should be sacked, Malpas has done well so far and it showed as people were actually singing his name today. 


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:41:18
JP really disappointed me today.  Anyone else see him getting a bit stroppy at the final whistle towards some town fans?  Appeared to mouth something along the lines of "wanker" toward them.

Im not however saying he was the worst as several played badly today.

Ohhh its Matt Heywoodgate again!


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:44:25
Cant believe some people were saying Malpas should be sacked, Malpas has done well so far and it showed as people were actually singing his name today. 

Thought I heard a Maurice Malpas red and white army, or we are malpas red and white army chant today! Fair Play!


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 19:46:42
I remember doing that chant a good 5-6 times.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: glos_robin on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 20:29:45
Malpas had a good few chants in his favour and in fairness has deserved it, he was probably a victim of circumstances today, you can't really argue with his line-up but if certain players don't bother playing then you will have problems.
Any way onto Mr Mcgovern, I'll be the first to admit I don't really like him anyway but today finally pushed me over the edge. His attitude stinks, he only bothers when it suits him and he's had chance after chance to impress.
He was only marginally worst than Aljofree for example but at least they walked off the pitch without antagonising the fans. It was a local derby and they fucked it, they should expect a bit of a backlash of the supporters when losing 2-0. If Mcgovern thinks he is better than us then he should fuck off and do an Arron Brown....


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: JPC82 on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 20:35:24
its all well and good slating McGovern, but who should replace him then? Everyone moans when Easton was played on the right, Marshall has played 10mins in league football and that was today! we have no one else


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Run_the_bath on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 20:37:39
i think its a bit harsh on mcgovern, yeh he played bad, like some of the others. doesn't warrant having abuse shouted at him though. I was there in the corner too and think maybe people are over reacting a little bit. We should get behind the team no matter what, look at how good our situation is compared to last year.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 20:37:56
its all well and good slating McGovern, but who should replace him then? Everyone moans when Easton was played on the right, Marshall has played 10mins in league football and that was today! we have no one else

Therein lies the problem at the moment - no competition makes JP complacent.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: glos_robin on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 20:39:53
Having no competition is no excuse, if he can't be arsed to play then he shouldn't bother turning up, I'm sure Easton would have at least grafted on the wing today. But to have JP in centre mid ahead of Easton second half was pure madness


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: the goat on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 20:40:45
just a scapegoat i think he's allright


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 20:43:12
Not saying it's an excuse, he was balls today and competition or no competition he should be doing better, I just hope that when the competition hots up he'll get his arse in gear - I can't believe this is the same player who was instrumental in Wednesday's promotion a few seasons ago.

As I've said in the match thread - the only reason he stayed on was because he's supposed to be able to take a corner...


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: JPC82 on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 20:43:25
im not going to agree that JPM was any worse than any of our other players, hes never going to be like macca and skin the full back but his delivery in the most part is good, today was an off day for the whole team not just McGovern.
Also is it his fault he was put into centre midfield? what would u rather he do, demand to be replaced by Easton? he played out of position to do a job for the team, its down to Malpas if he feels McGovern would do a better job in there than Easton


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Run_the_bath on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 20:45:27
The decision to bring on marshall for timlin really frustrated me earlier. I thought a straight swap for easton would have been the best bet. Rather than throwing marshall (Football league debutant away from home and 1 nil down) into the mix. Just wanted to point out i thought it was a piss poor decision (in my opinion)


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: JPC82 on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 20:48:42
The decision to bring on marshall for timlin really frustrated me earlier. I thought a straight swap for easton would have been the best bet. Rather than throwing marshall (Football league debutant away from home and 1 nil down) into the mix. Just wanted to point out i thought it was a piss poor decision (in my opinion)

i agree with Malpas to put Marshall on, we was playing 10 men, get a natural wide man on the right, we had one on the left then we could stretch the game, im not saying i agree with jpm in the middle ahead of eastie tho


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: the goat on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 20:51:41
 8)


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Robins Nest on Saturday, August 16, 2008, 21:05:18
JP really disappointed me today.  Anyone else see him getting a bit stroppy at the final whistle towards some town fans?  Appeared to mouth something along the lines of "wanker" toward them.

Im not however saying he was the worst as several played badly today.

Not sure what game you were watching  as Mcgovern put in a shitful of chances but Coxy and Peacock werent on form today. As for our defence it was poor on the day. McGovern got rattled because as usual our shit fans were shouting dogs abuse at him and he does seem to be the scapegoat. Mcgovern doesnt make the decision where he plays.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: DiV on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 00:51:46
to be fair if JPM did call some of our fans wankers, pricks or twats then he is pretty much spot on.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Luci on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 07:30:24
Not sure what game you were watching  as Mcgovern put in a shitful of chances but Coxy and Peacock werent on form today. As for our defence it was poor on the day. McGovern got rattled because as usual our shit fans were shouting dogs abuse at him and he does seem to be the scapegoat. Mcgovern doesnt make the decision where he plays.

I think you'll find that "JP disappointed me today" was an opinion, hence the word 'me' used in my sentence.  My post hardly reflects what game I was watching does it.  Everyone has opinions, most of which different.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 08:52:50
JPM was pretty good yesterday tbf. A lot better than most of our players anyway.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Panda Paws on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 11:12:10
It just goes to show how reputations can protect players from abuse etc because Mcgovern created more than Macnamee, who again away from home was ineffective. I thought the majority of the team were pretty poor, including Mcgovern, but the behaviour of some of our fans towards him at the end of the game was shocking.

Equally shocking was Malpas decision to play him in the middle over Easton, one of our most consistent players last year.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 11:13:42
mcnamees crosses were better than mcgoverns, we just never game the ball to him! cheltenham doubled up on him and we didnt take advantage of that fact


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 11:17:17
mcnamees crosses were better than mcgoverns, we just never game the ball to him! cheltenham doubled up on him and we didnt take advantage of that fact

 Let's face it, the quality on crosses, corners, free kicks yesterday was little better than Blue Square South standard.

 What do these fellas do all week? Sure isn't working on basic skills.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Panda Paws on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 11:35:51
mcnamees crosses were better than mcgoverns, we just never game the ball to him! cheltenham doubled up on him and we didnt take advantage of that fact

But if Cheltenham can figure it out and double up on him therefore nulifying him, so can every other team in this league, and we don't, even at home, use the fact that he's being doubled up on to our advantage. Casal isn't encouraged to get round him.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: STFC_Chris on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 11:59:30
Let's face it, the quality on crosses, corners, free kicks yesterday was little better than Blue Square South standard.

 What do these fellas do all week?
Sure isn't working on basic skills.
Practice cringe-worthy goal celebrations, and there won't be much need for those if they carry on like yesterday.  ::)


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 12:02:24
Practice cringe-worthy goal celebrations, and there won't be much need for those if they carry on like yesterday.  ::)

 Good point....


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: alanmayes on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 15:45:10
I wish Malpas would get it into his head that you play players in their best positions
and when making a change,it doesn't matter if the player has been good,bad or indifferent,
you're making a change to chase the game or to close the game down.

Yesterday should have seen Marshall on for JPM and Easton for Timlin.Some Cheltenham fans
reckoned that MM was seen eating chips in the dugout during the game.What's that all about  ???


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: yeo on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 15:46:23
haha ace 8)


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: DiV on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 15:46:43
I could be wrong and I certainly dont have TCP798's contacts but MAYBE, just MAYBE Malpas was.....wait for it.....dare I say it....hungry?!


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: yeo on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 15:47:42
probably found them on floor and being Scottish couldnt let them go to waste


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Luci on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 15:48:19
 :D :D :D


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: alanmayes on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 16:01:07
Forgot to mention  he was seen eating mushy peas as well..... :D


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: mexico red on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 16:24:50
i think malpas should have a 3 course meal in the dugout and byrne should be the waiter.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 16:38:20
I think he's going to get more aggro from the fans to be honest. Theres things about McGovern that really annoy me. He never holds his hand up when he plays a bad ball, always moaning at other players. Says me, moaning about him. But honestly, you can see it happening again because he is mouthy on the pitch.

Just seems such a waste we cant have Easton in the team. Hes not a right winger, but he gets on with it and runs non stop, and hes scored a few goals from there as well.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 16:46:21
McGovern had a big bust up with Adi Williams in training during the week, bit of useless info for u :)


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: michael on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 17:22:12
My money would be on Adi to win that one. Despite liking a drink and being very easy to injure, he is a big unit and could probably rip limbs out of their sockets.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: leefer on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 20:39:45
I detest fans who barrack there own players during a match,JPM wasnt better or worse than any other player yesterday..McMannee was piss poor in my opinion and to say they doubled up on him,so what,some Town fans need a scapegoat ask Duke or Pook. Yes Mcgovern pisses me off at times,even last week when he scored and assisted i heard people giving him shit...you pays yer money i spose.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: walrus on Monday, August 18, 2008, 14:42:46
McGovern was pretty decent on Saturday I thought, though he was up against a useless Alan Wright.  He looked dangerous and was perhaps a little unlikely.  Unfortunately, the attitude is just something we'll have to bare.  It was a worry when he was mouthing off at fans, but I'd like to put that down to frustration at losing a game we should have won...


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: janaage on Monday, August 18, 2008, 15:22:57
probably found them on floor and being Scottish couldnt let them go to waste

Worst thing about english chippies, is the lack of a haggis supper.  Best meal available at a chippy by a mile.  Ummmmm.  Battered haggis and chips, and a can of Irn Bru to wash it down, from the chippy in Selkirk, heaven.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 18, 2008, 15:27:13
Worst thing about english chippies, is the lack of a haggis supper.  Best meal available at a chippy by a mile.  Ummmmm.  Battered haggis and chips, and a can of Irn Bru to wash it down, from the chippy in Selkirk, heaven.

 Do you recall when Stirling Albion beat Selkirk 20-0 in the SFA Cup?  1984 I believe.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: janaage on Monday, August 18, 2008, 15:38:55
I don't Reg, but I was reading about that the other week in Bobby Johnstone's biography (It was mentioned in the a brief history of Selkirk FC chapter).  Lovely little town Selkirk and well worth a visit during the common riding, when pretty much the whole town go on an all day session.  We started at 6 in the morning and finished at closing when I was up there for it!  Great day!


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 18, 2008, 15:52:43
I don't Reg, but I was reading about that the other week in Bobby Johnstone's biography (It was mentioned in the a brief history of Selkirk FC chapter).  Lovely little town Selkirk and well worth a visit during the common riding, when pretty much the whole town go on an all day session.  We started at 6 in the morning and finished at closing when I was up there for it!  Great day!

 Stirling Albion weren't up to much that season....finished half way up the lowest Scottish div behind the likes of Montrose and Cowdenbeath. When I saw that score on the eleprinter thought it must have been a misprint.  Maybe the Selkirk lads had been on an all dayer before the game.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: nevillew on Monday, August 18, 2008, 16:24:35
I seem to have it in mind that Alexander Selkirk was a Scottish shepherd who owned "Black Bob" of comic fame (I think it was the Dandy).  A tame attempt at Britsh Lassieism.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, August 18, 2008, 16:25:48
It was the Dandy.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: michael on Monday, August 18, 2008, 17:05:59
McGovern was pretty decent on Saturday I thought, though he was up against a useless Alan Wright.

Was it Alan Wright who ate dirt for no reason at all, to let JPM through?

I would have loved us to score in that move just to be able to see him stack it again.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, August 18, 2008, 17:11:20
We should have scored from it!


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 18, 2008, 17:13:54
We should have scored from it!

 It was a bit like the Hull winner v Fulham....whereas Fagan just slipped in Folan, JPM hesitated, then picked out a defender trying to cover.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, August 18, 2008, 17:15:55
Which was the motive behind the opening post of this thread


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 18, 2008, 17:41:13
Which was the motive behind the opening post of this thread

 Fair point...I've had a Saturday and Sunday night since then, so you can't expect me to remember such fine detail.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, August 22, 2008, 14:22:54
I think he is gash and believe we should play 4-3-3 just to drop him.


Title: Re: FAO JOHN PAUL MCGOVERN
Post by: leefer on Friday, August 22, 2008, 21:28:17
And let in even more goals?