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Title: Jake Kean
Post by: Tails on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 10:33:51
Joins on loan from Norwich for a week


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 10:36:43
Straight into the starting line up then.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 10:42:56
A week?!


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 10:49:53
Are we that short of players really? Or as it is so close to the end of the season are there limits on how long we can loan anyone?


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 10:50:53
A week?!

Presuming it's just a case of getting us to that magical safety number.



Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 10:58:47
He's a goalkeeper?

Doesn't bode well for Belford if that's the case.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 10:59:52
Was on loan at Colchester earlier this season I think?


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Honest Lee on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 11:00:23
Belford has a "mystery" injury   soapy tit wank


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 11:00:36
Ah just read the adver piece that says that Belford has a mystery injury.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 11:08:20
He has been around a bit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Kean looks like something of a pedigree there, at least whilst at Blackburn?

But also a big unit in the manner that keepers should be (tall) and not as Belford is (wide).


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 11:26:48
His dad will be managing us


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 14:46:10
Has Belford got the same "mystery" injury as Ajose?


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Batch on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 15:28:32
Has Belford got the same "mystery" injury as Ajose?

A tight hamstring?

How exotic.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 15:54:32
A tight hamstring?

How exotic.

I suspect Belfords problem may be more of a tight belt?


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 20:13:20
Never heard of him... but good luck to the lad!


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, April 14, 2016, 20:53:29
Never heard of him... but good luck to the lad!

Sort of reminds me of pitching up at Elm Park, Boxing Day 87. To find some bloke in goal who wasn't Fraser or Nicky Hammond.
Fraser had bust his thumb earlier in the season....Lou obviously didn't fully trust Hammond, so got Tim Flowers in, when his loan ran out, Hammond came back in, but he got injured in training just before Christmas.

As there was no media news because of the hols...had no idea who he was, let alone heard of him. It transpired it was Paul Crichton who Forest had let us have for the emergency....we won 1-0. Hopefully Kean can have a similar impact.

Crichton was still going at 40 and picking up a pay cheque for coaching and bench sitting....goalkeeping can be a very decent career.

Years    Team    Apps†    (Gls)†
1986–1988    Nottingham Forest    0    (0)
1986    → Notts County (loan)    5    (0)
1987    → Darlington (loan)    5    (0)
1987    → Peterborough United (loan)    4    (0)
1987    → Darlington (loan)    3    (0)
1987    → Swindon Town (loan)    4    (0)
1988    → Rotherham United (loan)    6    (0)
1988    → Torquay United (loan)    13    (0)
1988–1990    Peterborough United    47    (0)
1990–1993    Doncaster Rovers    77    (0)
1993–1996    Grimsby Town    133    (0)
1996    → West Bromwich Albion (loan)    5    (0)
1996–1998    West Bromwich Albion    27    (0)
1997    → Aston Villa (loan)    0    (0)
1998    → Burnley (loan)    1    (0)
1998    → Burnley (loan)    0    (0)
1998–2001    Burnley    83    (0)
2001–2004    Norwich City    6    (0)
2004    York City    4    (0)
2004    Gainsborough Trinity    ?    (?)
2004    Stafford Rangers    2    (0)
2004    Leigh RMI    4    (0)
2004–2005    Accrington Stanley    19    (0)
2005–2006    Gillingham    1    (0)
2006–2007    Cambridge United    32    (0)
2007    → King's Lynn (loan)    ?    (?)
2007–2008    King's Lynn    ?    (?)
2008–2009    Brighton & Hove Albion    0    (0)
2010–2011    Sheffield United    0    (0)


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, April 15, 2016, 05:46:19
to be fair it is an emergency; our first choice is injured and our second choice is shite


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Sippo on Friday, April 15, 2016, 09:17:20
So looks like Belford is out for the season. So, this Kean bloke better be good.

I don't understand why Belford 'hid' his injury from the clubs physio's...


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, April 15, 2016, 09:33:24
We can extend his loan beyond the 7 days, right?


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Tails on Friday, April 15, 2016, 09:34:45
So looks like Belford is out for the season. So, this Kean bloke better be good.

I don't understand why Belford 'hid' his injury from the clubs physio's...

I can. An opportunity for him to establish himself as a first choice 'keeper...


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, April 15, 2016, 09:36:44
So looks like Belford is out for the season. So, this Kean bloke better be good.

I don't understand why Belford 'hid' his injury from the clubs physio's...

Where did you see this?


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, April 15, 2016, 09:37:47
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/belford-out-for-rest-of-the-season-3059650.aspx


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Sippo on Friday, April 15, 2016, 09:39:30
I can. An opportunity for him to establish himself as a first choice 'keeper...

Well that backfired then.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, April 15, 2016, 09:46:07
You can kind of see why he's done that but it's a very poor decision.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Sippo on Friday, April 15, 2016, 09:52:15
Oh yeah he's done it for the 'right' reasons, but naivety has played it's part.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, April 15, 2016, 10:02:01
Oh yeah he's done it for the 'right' reasons, but naivety has played it's part.

Sure I have missed this, is Vigorous also out for the season, if so what is going to change after the 7 days is up?


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, April 15, 2016, 10:11:22
Probably only allowed a seven-day loan initially as it's a special dispensation type case. Once we've proven we actually need someone for longer I'm sure it'll be extended.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, April 15, 2016, 10:50:30
Can kind of see why he's done it but a pretty selfish act in my opinion. Loan window was still open when he started to feel it so could have got someone in for the rest of the season. Now we're reliant on special dispensation to extend Kean's loan otherwise we could have major problems and we all know how much the Football Leage like us.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, April 15, 2016, 10:54:15
Sort of reminds me of pitching up at Elm Park, Boxing Day 87. To find some bloke in goal who wasn't Fraser or Nicky Hammond.
Fraser had bust his thumb earlier in the season....Lou obviously didn't fully trust Hammond, so got Tim Flowers in, when his loan ran out, Hammond came back in, but he got injured in training just before Christmas.

As there was no media news because of the hols...had no idea who he was, let alone heard of him. It transpired it was Paul Crichton who Forest had let us have for the emergency....we won 1-0. Hopefully Kean can have a similar impact.
Or what about Richard Key? He is arguably, in STFC terms the biggest mystery man ever. He played two games for us - a famous 1-0 win over Sheffield W in the Milk Cup as it was then and a 6-1 defeat at Ipswich in the next round. Apparently (and I don't remember this, I only know it because I looked it up on http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/) Scott Endersby was refusing to play for us as he'd got the hump at us signing Kenny Allen who was cup tied (ironically he'd played against us for Torquay.)

No one had heard of Richard Key (no 's') prior to that and he was never heard of again. Strange  ???


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, April 15, 2016, 11:04:11
Ridiculously naive stupid and decision by Belford, irrelevant of his reasons.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, April 15, 2016, 11:07:29
Can kind of see why he's done it but a pretty selfish act in my opinion. Loan window was still open when he started to feel it so could have got someone in for the rest of the season. Now we're reliant on special dispensation to extend Kean's loan otherwise we could have major problems and we all know how much the Football Leage like us.

I suspect it may have been desperation on his part, but agree it is somewhat selfish - if he wasn't already on his way out the door I suspect that he will be now.

Edit - Looking on Wiki christ is he still only 21, I assumed that he was much older - possibly explains his attitude?


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, April 15, 2016, 11:14:09
Sounds a bit similar to Nathan insisting he was fit to play in the Play Off Final - and look how that ended up.  They never learn, do they!


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Honest Lee on Friday, April 15, 2016, 11:36:08

Just as well the injury didn't affect his performances.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Friday, April 15, 2016, 11:39:59
"if he wasn't already on his way out the door I suspect that he will be now."


Belford isn't going anywhere. He signed a 2 year contract last summer. So naive or not he 's here until 2017 at least.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Batch on Friday, April 15, 2016, 11:48:07
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/belford-out-for-rest-of-the-season-3059650.aspx

Well, I guess he's not won many friends with his decision. But if it was genuinely a minor issue at the start he may genuinely have though it not a problem.

That said, you'd think there is probably protocol in place that says 'report it straight away'.

So yeah. Well, its done now.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, April 15, 2016, 12:02:31
Too many of our players this season seem keen to cement the stereotype of footballers not being the brightest among us.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Paolo69 on Friday, April 15, 2016, 12:13:38
Ty seems to be easy target but at least he wants to play for the team. Yaser gets slated for the exact opposite. Not sure you can win with some people to be honest.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, April 15, 2016, 12:16:17
yeah, because TY is getting slated for being eager to play, no other reason.  ::)


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Power to people on Friday, April 15, 2016, 12:19:27
Ridiculously naive stupid and decision by Belford, irrelevant of his reasons.

Not really, he felt a tightness ignored it knowing that Vigs was injured and he was the only 1st team keeper available and had a chance to play some games which he needed to do.

Sadly it has backfired on him with a few questionable performances and an injury that has ended his season and may put him under the knife for a repair job.

Lets hope that he can push on next season and really prove himself pre-season when he is injury free as we dont know if carrying the injury has hampered his performances, only Ty will know that.

I'm not so sure that certain 'supporters' will give him a fair go though when he gets another chance, I'm sure if he was to provide out of this world saves then he'd still get stick.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Paolo69 on Friday, April 15, 2016, 12:19:52
yeah, because TY is getting slated for being eager to play, no other reason.  ::)

My comment was supposed to be a general one, wasn't aimed at you.

I can understand that people think Ty's not good enough for this level. Based on his performances I would have to agree. I suppose this is just considered to be another opportunity to stick the knife in by some?!


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, April 15, 2016, 12:35:19
My comment was supposed to be a general one, wasn't aimed at you.

I can understand that people think Ty's not good enough for this level. Based on his performances I would have to agree. I suppose this is just considered to be another opportunity to stick the knife in by some?!
Not really, what he's done is real stupid. I'd be interested to hear Williams tone when talking about it as he comes across as pretty pissed off reading the article.  It's on the front page of the BBC football section as well and just looks embarrassing.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Paolo69 on Friday, April 15, 2016, 12:48:06
Not really, what he's done is real stupid. I'd be interested to hear Williams tone when talking about it as he comes across as pretty pissed off reading the article.  It's on the front page of the BBC football section as well and just looks embarrassing.

Blimey, some people are easily embarrassed. I think this club has been through a little worse than this. FWIW I agree its hardly the most sensible thing to do and I'm pretty sure he knows he should have piped up sooner now. There's worse crimes out there though, as the front page of last week's Daily Star will testify.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, April 15, 2016, 13:57:34
Or what about Richard Key? He is arguably, in STFC terms the biggest mystery man ever. He played two games for us - a famous 1-0 win over Sheffield W in the Milk Cup as it was then and a 6-1 defeat at Ipswich in the next round. Apparently (and I don't remember this, I only know it because I looked it up on http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/) Scott Endersby was refusing to play for us as he'd got the hump at us signing Kenny Allen who was cup tied (ironically he'd played against us for Torquay.)

No one had heard of Richard Key (no 's') prior to that and he was never heard of again. Strange  ???

Key, had actually quit football and was a student at the time. With him though, because it was early season the Adver could at least manage to publish a story about him, so at least we had a name, even if no-one knew anything about him.

Both stories of Key and Crichton illustrate that it is possible just to be unlucky....so not necessarily a symptom of the wheels having well and truly fallen off, and gouging furrows in the road.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, April 15, 2016, 17:36:15
Key, had actually quit football and was a student at the time. With him though, because it was early season the Adver could at least manage to publish a story about him, so at least we had a name, even if no-one knew anything about him.

Both stories of Key and Crichton illustrate that it is possible just to be unlucky....so not necessarily a symptom of the wheels having well and truly fallen off, and gouging furrows in the road.

There's a long long list of random Town keepers, some Premier League players, or at least bench warmers: Shane Cook, Jon Sheffield, Alan Flanagan (MOM at Sheff Utd and never seen again), Craig Farr, Lanzano, Richard McKinney, Rhys Evans...Then a few who you simply cannot believe had as many appearances for us as they did, Jimmy Glass, Bart Griemink.... Talia had his moments and was even named Player of the Year, so he's exempted from the longlist of poor keepers.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Tails on Friday, April 15, 2016, 17:46:33
Talia was crap but gave one of the best goalkeeping performances I've ever witnessed away at Charlton so I remember him fondly!


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, April 15, 2016, 17:59:15
There's a long long list of random Town keepers, some Premier League players, or at least bench warmers: Shane Cook, Jon Sheffield, Alan Flanagan (MOM at Sheff Utd and never seen again), Craig Farr, Lanzano, Richard McKinney, Rhys Evans...Then a few who you simply cannot believe had as many appearances for us as they did, Jimmy Glass, Bart Griemink.... Talia had his moments and was even named Player of the Year, so he's exempted from the longlist of poor keepers.

Yes.

A dishonourable mention to Alistair Sperring, played one LC game in 84 v Rovers...we got beat 5-1 and that was it for him.

On loan from Soton...


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, April 15, 2016, 18:18:02
Yes.

A dishonourable mention to Alistair Sperring, played one LC game in 84 v Rovers...we got beat 5-1 and that was it for him.

On loan from Soton...
Sperring is possibly the worst keeper I have seen play for the Town, worse than Key (who did a brave job at Ipswich) and Lanzano who is probably the 2nd worst keeper I have seen in a Town shirt.

Here is Sperring in all his gory glory, he also came out to claim a lot of crosses and missed them totally as well IIRC, similar to his 5th goal conceded but got away with them, it could have easily been 7 or 8 goals let in that day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XI6Q-xr5cQ


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Batch on Friday, April 15, 2016, 18:54:09
Quote from: Tails
Talia was crap but gave one of the best goalkeeping performances I've ever witnessed away at Charlton so I remember him fondly!
had a good game at old Trafford too in the LC iirc.

didn't think Bart was that bad myself btw


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, April 15, 2016, 18:56:28
His dad will be managing us
Who is that then? :unsure:


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, April 15, 2016, 20:29:53
Sperring is possibly the worst keeper I have seen play for the Town, worse than Key (who did a brave job at Ipswich) and Lanzano who is probably the 2nd worst keeper I have seen in a Town shirt.

Here is Sperring in all his gory glory, he also came out to claim a lot of crosses and missed them totally as well IIRC, similar to his 5th goal conceded but got away with them, it could have easily been 7 or 8 goals let in that day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XI6Q-xr5cQ
If that's Sperring at his worst then Belford's performance at Scunthorpe trumps it comfortably!


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, April 16, 2016, 00:29:08
Sort of reminds me of pitching up at Elm Park, Boxing Day 87. To find some bloke in goal who wasn't Fraser or Nicky Hammond.
Fraser had bust his thumb earlier in the season....Lou obviously didn't fully trust Hammond, so got Tim Flowers in, when his loan ran out, Hammond came back in, but he got injured in training just before Christmas.

As there was no media news because of the hols...had no idea who he was, let alone heard of him. It transpired it was Paul Crichton who Forest had let us have for the emergency....we won 1-0. Hopefully Kean can have a similar impact.

Crichton was still going at 40 and picking up a pay cheque for coaching and bench sitting....goalkeeping can be a very decent career.

Years    Team    Apps†    (Gls)†
1986–1988    Nottingham Forest    0    (0)
1986    → Notts County (loan)    5    (0)
1987    → Darlington (loan)    5    (0)
1987    → Peterborough United (loan)    4    (0)
1987    → Darlington (loan)    3    (0)
1987    → Swindon Town (loan)    4    (0)
1988    → Rotherham United (loan)    6    (0)
1988    → Torquay United (loan)    13    (0)
1988–1990    Peterborough United    47    (0)
1990–1993    Doncaster Rovers    77    (0)
1993–1996    Grimsby Town    133    (0)
1996    → West Bromwich Albion (loan)    5    (0)
1996–1998    West Bromwich Albion    27    (0)
1997    → Aston Villa (loan)    0    (0)
1998    → Burnley (loan)    1    (0)
1998    → Burnley (loan)    0    (0)
1998–2001    Burnley    83    (0)
2001–2004    Norwich City    6    (0)
2004    York City    4    (0)
2004    Gainsborough Trinity    ?    (?)
2004    Stafford Rangers    2    (0)
2004    Leigh RMI    4    (0)
2004–2005    Accrington Stanley    19    (0)
2005–2006    Gillingham    1    (0)
2006–2007    Cambridge United    32    (0)
2007    → King's Lynn (loan)    ?    (?)
2007–2008    King's Lynn    ?    (?)
2008–2009    Brighton & Hove Albion    0    (0)
2010–2011    Sheffield United    0    (0)

He conceded at Reading that day....but ruled offside....fuck off you Reading cunts!

I think the mighty Quinn notched too...


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, April 16, 2016, 08:05:42
Who is that then? :unsure:

Steve kean is it not?


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Hitchinred on Saturday, April 16, 2016, 13:47:22
Not really, what he's done is real stupid. I'd be interested to hear Williams tone when talking about it as he comes across as pretty pissed off reading the article.  It's on the front page of the BBC football section as well and just looks embarrassing.

Think Williams will be ok as they just said on the radio that he and Embleton were with Nelford at the speedway in the week.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, April 16, 2016, 14:14:37
Agree we need cover for now, but would like to see young Will Henry given his chance as soon as (hopefully) we are comfortable about not being relegated.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, April 16, 2016, 14:56:45
Steve kean is it not?

Nope.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 13:02:43
So, from those who have been to either of the last two games, what's the impression of Kean? Looks like a keeper, rather than a gym fiend, which is a good start I guess. Appears solid enough on the comms and highlights but impossible to tell from afar.

Guess he wouldn't come here as number 2 (nor would we run a squad with three senior keepers), but given we're in the market for a new number 1 this summer.....


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: Summerof69 on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 13:09:38
So, from those who have been to either of the last two games, what's the impression of Kean? Looks like a keeper, rather than a gym fiend, which is a good start I guess. Appears solid enough on the comms and highlights but impossible to tell from afar.

Guess he wouldn't come here as number 2 (nor would we run a squad with three senior keepers), but given we're in the market for a new number 1 this summer.....

I've got to admit after seeing him on Saturday, I was more comfortable with him in goal than Belford, but maybe that was because we mostly stopped pratting about with the ball at the back.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 13:22:41
So, from those who have been to either of the last two games, what's the impression of Kean? Looks like a keeper, rather than a gym fiend, which is a good start I guess. Appears solid enough on the comms and highlights but impossible to tell from afar.

Guess he wouldn't come here as number 2 (nor would we run a squad with three senior keepers), but given we're in the market for a new number 1 this summer.....

In all honesty not had that much to do last 2 games, his distribution seems decent and he's certainly commanding - handling seems to be good.


Title: Re: Jake Kean
Post by: ferret on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 13:51:33
So, from those who have been to either of the last two games, what's the impression of Kean? Looks like a keeper, rather than a gym fiend, which is a good start I guess. Appears solid enough on the comms and highlights but impossible to tell from afar.

Guess he wouldn't come here as number 2 (nor would we run a squad with three senior keepers), but given we're in the market for a new number 1 this summer.....

I'd echo the above posts - early days, but looks comfortable enough, and a definite improvement on Belford.

On the basis that his emergency loan only lasts for 7 days, but the relevant 'emergency' is still ongoing, I assume that we just keep extending it every week.