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Title: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:00:55
I know in the match section but no negative comments from me.
Congratulations now in the Premiership.

Top lad, top player and from Div 2.
Unbelievable and total respect.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:06:18
Nowt against the player.
Irked about how he departed.
Sick of the Bournemouth miracle shit.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:06:31
Great player and it has to be said, a great team and a thoroughly deserved promotion.
It was still a bit painful to watch tonight though when you think that, as Reg said, it was only the season before last that we were giving them a sound tonking at the CG.

And then there's Ritchie himself. What might have been had Andrew Black not get bored with his play thing and bailed out and we'd actually managed to hold on to him. Fair play to him though, he won't be out of place in the Prem.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:07:40
Nowt against the player.
Irked about how he departed.
Sick of the Bournemouth miracle shit.
It's no miracle, they're just playing football how it should be played and doing it amazingly well.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:10:48
It's no miracle, they're just playing football how it should be played and doing it amazingly well.

With rather a lot of money.....


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:17:25
8 of the starting lineup were in their league 1 side, fair play to them


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:19:10
Yep. A fair few of their team have been grinding out careers in the lower levels of the FL.

Money didn't make them better, a good manager did.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:23:22
They are not MK...so...it might hurt but congrats....AND nice to see a small club get another new name in the Prem.

And the shitheads still haven't!! :)


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Nemo on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:26:21
Pretty sure they don't have more money than Norwich or Middlesbrough. Yes the media love in is a shitefest but it's the same every year with whoever the smallest side to go up is, was Burnley and Sean Dyche last year and it'll be someone else next.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: RedRag on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:33:07
I liked him from the first time I saw him come on with less than 10 minutes to go as a sub: 0-4 at home to the Gas. Negativity radiated round the ground like only it can at the CG. 

Young and inexperienced, Ritchie still demanded the ball, wanted to work one-twos with his less than whole hearted  teammates and he never once tried to hide.  He was a cameo of positivity on a dire afternoon.

His work ethic, smashed crosses into dangerous areas and shooting skills blossomed under PDC's regime and his directness could probably enhance today's team immeasurably.  Ritchie's work off the ball as a wing back was nevertheless the cake under the icing - and that aspect of his contribution to the team would alone probably have seen us secure automatic this season.  I am delighted for him that he has achieved even better.

He never agitated for his move as far as I know and his fire sale has sullied his memory somewhat but through no fault of his own.  I would wish him very well for his future. 


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:36:27
Bournemouth's record transfer is 2.5 million, Fulham spent 9 mil on McCormack this summer. They have spent money, don't know how they have got away with FFP's due to small crowds but they play some very good football.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:38:42
I don't blame the player, and I can't really blame Bournemouth for taking advantage. I'd expect us to do the same and I'd be delighted.

Good luck to them.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:41:39
Its a great 'narrative' for the media to bang on about and idiots to lap up as if its a great fairytale

(I dont remember prince charming solving things by bolstering up 15 million of losses with massive loans).

Its just the type of story media and idiots love.

God help us if the franchise ever make the premier league.  Rivers of sky sports jizz will flow from every shitty fucking sports bar in the country.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: RedRag on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:45:20
In passing we could have had Harry Arter, Bournemouth's player of the season (Matt Ritchie notwithstanding), for £30,000 from Woking 5 years ago.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:46:58
Bournemouth's record transfer is 2.5 million, Fulham spent 9 mil on McCormack this summer. They have spent money, don't know how they have got away with FFP's due to small crowds but they play some very good football.

They are, however, paying Kenwyne Jones 35k a week.

They lost 15m they year they got out of league 1.  11m on wages with a smaller average crowd than us.

Pleased for Matt Ritchie, great player.  Happy enough for the fans, don't like the way they've done it, but fair play to the club.  I just cant stand the media and ignorant football fans of other teams who have told me how great it is.



Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:49:03
I don't care about the money or media 'love in', all I know is, that is how I want to see football played and maybe, just maybe they will make a paralyzingly, crushingly mind numbingly boring Premier League just a little bit more interesting next season. Here's hoping.

If that makes me ignorant, then so be it.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:51:32
So for less than the Traders have spunked up the wall, Bournemouth are in the Prem where they will make shitloads of money and pay back every penny to the Russkie and still have money in the bank even if they go back to the Championship...and on a lot less than other clubs have pissed down the drain.
May not be a total fairy story but fair play to them. We'd do it if we could.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Baggins on Monday, April 27, 2015, 21:58:51
They are, however, paying Kenwyne Jones 35k a week.

They lost 15m they year they got out of league 1.  11m on wages with a smaller average crowd than us.

Pleased for Matt Ritchie, great player.  Happy enough for the fans, don't like the way they've done it, but fair play to the club.  I just cant stand the media and ignorant football fans of other teams who have told me how great it is.



I agree, in general, with your point.  I do wonder though, if it happened to us - random loaded person spunks money on us, we get to the "promised land" - if we would feel it was tainted in some way.  I suspect not.  I can't help but feel happy for Bournemouth fans - they seem a decent club, they've been through dark days and they've just won the lottery.  


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: jonah on Monday, April 27, 2015, 22:00:06
Bournemouth are cunts. The end.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, April 27, 2015, 22:04:51
I agree, in general, with your point.  I do wonder though, if it happened to us - random loaded person spunks money on us, we get to the "promised land" - if we would feel it was tainted in some way.  I suspect not.  I can't help but feel happy for Bournemouth fans - they seem a decent club, they've been through dark days and they've just won the lottery. 

Nah Id be lapping it up if it was us.  Hypocrite that I am.  Its the media bollocks that does me in.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 27, 2015, 22:13:44
if it happened to us - random loaded person spunks money on us, we get to the "promised land" - if we would feel it was tainted in some way.  I suspect not.

Absolutely not. How many clubs do what Bournemouth and Brentford have done on break even? Fuck me, the top two premier league teams have spent shit loads chasing the title/champions league.

Pretty much everybody spends money they don't have trying to be successful. Its only "buying the league" if they spend more than you :)

Whether it will be "worth it" for Bournemouth in the long run, that will be answered in the fullness of time. Its certainly worth it in the now.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: joteddyred on Monday, April 27, 2015, 22:18:11
They play some good stuff and I like Eddie Howe, so I'm pleased to see them get there.  Even if they implode financially in the future, at least they'll have this to look back on.

I'm still convinced we would have been promoted in 2013 if Ritchie hadn't been sold.  


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: RedRag on Monday, April 27, 2015, 22:31:20
Not sure I go with the Bournemouth jealousy.

You can't really spunk money if you get it all back, can you?  Is that not investment, particularly when allied to the choice of a talented and dedicated manager?

Do we really value financial fair play more highly than success and excitement on the pitch?

Well when it comes to the other 90 clubs the answer is yes, fair play must never be compromised.  Of that I have been certain since Black left us in the lurch.  Damn the Cherry Cheats! >:(


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 01:39:11
Eddie Howe reminds me of the goody-goody school snitch whose face I'd like to pummel


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 07:12:03
Nowt against the player.
Irked about how he departed.
Sick of the Bournemouth miracle shit.
Exactly this.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 07:35:54
Frankly good luck to them, riding the wave to promotion I suspect the majority of fans will not care about whatever financial foundations it is built upon, we would have been exactly the same if we had done this with Blacks money - its the fact that the wheels fell off spectacularly in our case that I suspect has made many cynical - we know from experience how quickly such a structure can collapse - and the fact that Bournemouth were probably the main immediate beneficiary of our downturn will obviously cloud many judgments - especially as they are being lauded as plucky little community Bournemouth in the media.

The media love in does grate a little, however as with all mainstream media regarding 'small' clubs its actually quite patronising to them (again I suspect they won't care). The airbrushing (or ignorance) of many facts does get my back up - little Bournemouth have done it (funded by a Russian sugar daddy who is charging them interest on his £15m a year), Eddie Howe is loyal and Bournemouth through and through (apart from when he buggered off to Burnley, couldn't hack it and then came back 2 years later). 

It will be a very interesting season, be interested what happens to the premiership money, will the owner invest in the club/ground or alternatively take money back out (like Blackpool), equally what happens to Howe, if they do poorly possible sack, if they do well bigger club comes calling.

And then its perfectly set up for Redknapp to return to his first club, phoenix like.....


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 08:12:14
With Twatford and Muff in the PL, all we need is Brentford to get in the POs and win them and what a trio of small clubs that would be amongst the great and the good.

Be a helluva good bet to have all 3 to come straight back down again.

I loathe Twatford most amongst them 3


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 08:24:29
Fair play to Richie(who has clearly got better since he left us) and ballmouth. Their budget is smaller than many teams in the championship so credit where credit is due.

Why some of our fans are bitter and critical of them after the way di canio threw money at league 2, which saw us spunking huge amounts of money at it is ironic to say the least


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 08:30:01
Fair play to Richie(who has clearly got better since he left us) and ballmouth. Their budget is smaller than many teams in the championship so credit where credit is due.

Why some of our fans are bitter and critical of them after the way di canio threw money at league 2, which saw us spunking huge amounts of money at it is ironic to say the least

I think you're missing the point. People don't simply dislike the fact Bournemouth spend money. It's more to do with the way they whined about Di Canio chucking the cash around, labelling Town as cheats, then did the same thing.

At least that's the way I understand it.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 08:36:19
I think you're missing the point. People don't simply dislike the fact Bournemouth spend money. It's more to do with the way they whined about Di Canio chucking the cash around, labelling Town as cheats, then did the same thing.

At least that's the way I understand it.
That's a bit unfair to generalise their fans like that.

Our spending in league 2 in comparison to our rivals at the time was far more than Bournemouth in comparison to their championship rivals.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 09:11:54
Basically football fans are generally hypocrites.

If your club if doing something "wrong" it's fine, if its another club it's not right


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 09:33:36
Correct.

For further clarification on this rule I refer you to Bristol City (1982)


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 09:53:33
I find Howe incredibly smug.

That said if I was a Bournemouth fan I'd love him and life in general right.

I think it's possible to be pleased for their fans and Matt Ritchie, while still getting a little annoyed that the Russian money is almost NEVER mentioned by the media as they collectively and constantly rim darling Eddie


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 09:57:08
With Twatford and Muff in the PL, all we need is Brentford to get in the POs and win them and what a trio of small clubs that would be amongst the great and the good.

Be a helluva good bet to have all 3 to come straight back down again.

I loathe Twatford most amongst them 3

What's wrong with Watford? Am I missing something?


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 09:57:17
So for less than the Traders have spunked up the wall, Bournemouth are in the Prem where they will make shitloads of money and pay back every penny to the Russkie and still have money in the bank even if they go back to the Championship...and on a lot less than other clubs have pissed down the drain.
May not be a total fairy story but fair play to them. We'd do it if we could.
We did do it......we overspent massively in going up to the Premier League (not to mention the dodgy payments made in going up from the 4th to the 2nd Division.....) and ended up back in the 4th Division and almost going bust, twice. We're only just recovering now. The only difference is that when it all went tits up we didn't have a sugar daddy to bail us out (and we didn't, of course, have the huge parachute payments that Bournemouth will get when their stint in the Prem inevitably ends).


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 09:59:05
It's extremely difficult for any team, irrespective of budget, to reach the Premier League. Bournemouth deserves all the plaudits (unfortunately).

One thing that's even more difficult than getting there is staying there. I know I'll probably sound bitter and twisted, but I'd hate them to last more than a season.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 10:16:54
Eddie Howe is a fantastic manager and Bournemouth play some cracking football. Still getting a bit fed up of the miracle stuff too, they do have resources a lot of teams don't... But Howe still deserves the credit he gets.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 10:30:32
Exactly this.

And this again.


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 11:10:21
What's wrong with Watford? Am I missing something?
Audrey just hates everyone   :no:


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 11:15:20
Last time we went to Twatford the fuckers in the tier above spent the entire game gobbing on us from above.

Amazed none of them died of dehydration - mores the pity


Title: Re: Matt Ritchie.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 11:37:26
What's wrong with Watford? Am I missing something?

Back in the days of late 60's, we used to have a bit of trouble with Watford.

TBF to them though, they were in the forefront of the attempt to restore the game to family values and take it away from the troublemakers....it shouldn't be forgotten that a large part of the reason why Town crowds fell, from the early 70's to the 80's was not only because of shit football, but also the likelihood of a spot of bovver.

Watford's approach was more your cuddly mascot/ cheap tickets for kids approach, whereas STFC's was more your build massive steel fences and meshing, and introduce membership schemes approach.

Some then disliked Watford, for their early plasticity.....