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Title: Country's names
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 12:37:37
I was just wondering after watching the Euros why countries call other countries different names.

For example, we are England - so why doesn't everyone else call us England not Angleterre, Ingleterre and all the other dago names.

Germans call their country Deutschland - so why do we call it Germany.

You would think it polite for people to call a country by the name the country calls itself.

I know, I know - I'm bored - just cleaned the kennels out and a bit shagged at the mo


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 12:45:01
Most of northern Europe forms the germanic nations (those of Saxon origin anyway), and germanic tribes presumably lived in the country we now call Germany.

So that's one example...


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 12:49:42
Yeah, but if the Germans (or Italians or Spanish etc) call their own country Deutschland, Italy and Espana why do we call them Germany, Italy and Spain?

Our Frog friend Jean-Pierre remains Jean-Pierre no matter what country he goes to - we wouldn't automatically call him John-Peter.


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 12:53:53
Yeah but once we called it Germany its difficult to change it.

Look at the confusion Istanbul was Constantinople, Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople. Been a long time gone, Constantinople. Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night caused.

Then again Even old New York was once New Amsterdam, Why they changed it I can't say, People just liked it better that way.

Or put another way, no idea


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:09:18


Look at the confusion Istanbul was Constantinople, Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople. Been a long time gone, Constantinople. Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night caused.



That's nobodies business but the Turks


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:15:58
and Caicos


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:22:04

Then again Even old New York was once New Amsterdam, Why they changed it I can't say, People just liked it better that way.

Or put another way, no idea

Originally named by Dutch settlers, renamed by the English.


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:23:45
Originally named by Dutch settlers, renamed by the English.

Never knew the Dutch invented indigestion tablets


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:28:13
Never knew the Dutch invented indigestion tablets

They call them something different.


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:36:44
  At the UN member countries have to have their name plates in English or in French....there are only 2 in French.  Quiz question without cheating....what are the 2 countries that are known by their French names?


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: A Gent Orange on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:39:51
Ivory Coast ?- Big old guess.


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:43:32
Cambodia?
Vietnam?


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:44:01
Laos?


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: janaage on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:44:22
  At the UN member countries have to have their name plates in English or in French....there are only 2 in French.  Quiz question without cheating....what are the 2 countries that are known by their French names?

France. ;-)


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:44:26
Spain is one isn't it (E)

:)


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: janaage on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:46:30
I was just wondering after watching the Euros why countries call other countries different names.

For example, we are England - so why doesn't everyone else call us England not Angleterre, Ingleterre and all the other dago names.

Germans call their country Deutschland - so why do we call it Germany.

You would think it polite for people to call a country by the name the country calls itself.

I know, I know - I'm bored - just cleaned the kennels out and a bit shagged at the mo

Because we'd never been able to pronounce Hungary's proper name?


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 13:57:23
Cote d'Ivoire


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Coca Fola on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 14:21:13
Croatia is Hrvatska and Montenegro is Crna Gora. The Montenegro thing is weird, Crna Gora means Black Forest in Serbian, whereas we call it Montenegro which means Black Mountain in Italian. Make your mind up guys.


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 14:33:47
Pretty sure England is something other than England in German, Italian, etc too


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: china red on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 14:34:28
I live in Zhong Guo = middle kingdom. 


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 15:00:50
Ivory Coast ?- Big old guess.

Yep....as KR says Cote d'Ivoire....t'other is Timor Leste....East Timor to us.


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: cheltred69 on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 15:24:52
Croatia is Hrvatska and Montenegro is Crna Gora. The Montenegro thing is weird, Crna Gora means Black Forest in Serbian, whereas we call it Montenegro which means Black Mountain in Italian. Make your mind up guys.

Hey?  According to my wife's English / Serbo-Croatian dictionary "gora" means mountain. Forest is šuma


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 15:32:49
Burma is actually known as Myanmar, after being changed from Burma

However, as the British government do not formally recognise the regime is legit they don't recognise the name change either.


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: leefer on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 15:48:02
Sri Lanka was formerly Ceylon....not many countries are named after people suprising .

Norway was named by old mancunian explorers who on setting foot on the snowy ground one said.....live here?....Nor way.



Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Coca Fola on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 15:56:31
Hey?  According to my wife's English / Serbo-Croatian dictionary "gora" means mountain. Forest is šuma
Depends whereabouts you're from.


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 23:56:57
Norway was named by old mancunian explorers who on setting foot on the snowy ground one said.....live here?....Nor way.


The weather has actually been nicer here than in the UK the last few days.

Apparently (I looked it up because your post made me curious) the name for Norway comes from the old Norse for 'the north route'.


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Bodins left foot on Sunday, June 24, 2012, 01:01:28
I'm in one of the two countries whose official names begins with The.
No idea why there's a THE
 :hmmm:


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Bumpkin on Sunday, June 24, 2012, 16:10:40
When did they drop The from Ukraine?


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Amir on Sunday, June 24, 2012, 16:34:49
When did they drop The from Ukraine?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18233844

In reply to the original question the best answer I can come up with is, it depends.  In my experience it depends on how a country came to know about another and whether the given name was easily pronounceable in that nations mother tongue.

For example in Cambodia we are Anglais, because they didn't know about us until the French turned up.  Except because of their language the country has the same name as the people/language.  They call the French 'Barang', because that's what they felt like calling them when they turned up.  The French call England 'Angleterre' because that means land of the Angles in French, and Angle is where we got the name England from.  

Like I said, it depends.


Title: Re: Country's names
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, June 24, 2012, 17:11:47
I'm in one of the two countries whose official names begins with The.
No idea why there's a THE
 :hmmm:
Because Ukraine comes from a Russian word that means 'edge' or 'country'. So, 'The Edge' or 'The country' makes a little more sense when describing where you come from.