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Ronaldo will shine tonight.

No he wont

Says on Sky Sports that Messi, Deco and Henry are all fit to play.

I have a small hunch that this will be better than the Scouse game last night.

Bet it wont. Man utd will try and play their "keep it tight" game, like at AC meelan last season. And it wont work again.

Ronaldo will be naff, playing against a big team.

You're a cheery, cynical fella aren't you!

Really really hoping its a Barca magic show - think it will be a draw tho

Dont talk drivel 'keep it tight' is Chelsea's style United are anything but that, they will play counter attack like they always do away and they will have chances tonight thats for sure.

For those also that says Ronaldo never turns up for the big games please note he scored in the Roma away leg and Arsenal and Liverpool league games showing that yes he can perform in the more pressure games.

Spot the Man Yoo fan :mrgreen:  Get back to work Dave!!!!

I think it'll be anything but boring. The last two times Man Utd played Barca have been 3-3 draws.

0-1 united. i fancy them to beat chelsea in the final

Come on the Barcelona.

I don't want an English team to win so you're my only hope.

Although if an English team does have to win, from my experience Chelsea fans are the most bearable.

i 've got a feeling Rio"the ball-watcher" will be tied up in knots tonight

It makes me laugh they keep saying on Sky that Barcelona are a 'big team' - yet you look at how many times they have won the Champions League and it is half as many as Bayern. And look how much Barcelona have spent over the years.

Fuck Bayern Munich, seriously, fuck Bayern Munich!

One of the best centre backs in the premiership this season IMO.

Bayern have won it once in 30 years get over it.  When any neutral in the world compares those two teams they would assume due to fan base, league there competing in and standard of players that Barcelona are a much bigger team.

Apart from the facts they're in the Champions League whilst Bayern aren't, they have bigger attendances, they play in a better league and they have better players, I'd say there's very little difference.

 :D

I like watching Man Utd, play lovelly football.

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I've never really understood why the the Bundesliga isn't better than it is.  Serves a population of 80+ million people, highly successful national side.  And only one club side that can realistically claim to compete with the best in Europe (in a good year).

I think Utd will struggle,the last 4-5 games they seem to have scraped by in games

United's away record in Europe over the past 3 years or so is generally quite poor too.

I hope Barcelona win, the clubs couldn't be any more different, one is owned by it's fans, the other is owned by someone who hadn't even heard of it until 5 years ago.

I also want Chelsea to win because I like Avram Grant.   8)

Ronaldo has already missed a penalty. Hehe.

haha penatly in 2nd minute, and he missed, soapy tit wank.

he's missed his last few pens hasnt he.

Just realised that Andy Gray is commentating.

Off goes the volume.

 Almost a good piece of punditry Dave....Barca are a shadow of the side of 2 seasons ago or even last season.  Think Rijkaard will be off to Chelsea for next season.

Is that how it turned out. For the brief period i listened on the radio it sounded like man u were on the back foot. And mr "never bottles it in big important games" missed a penalty.

what did Gabi Millito need to do to get booked, kill anyone. That ref was shocking.

 :shake: For those also that says Ronaldo never turns up for the big games please note he scored in the Roma away leg and Arsenal and Liverpool league games showing that yes he can perform in the more pressure games.

Ronaldo cant do it big games? um is that why he it top scorer in the best domestic league in the world and top scorer in the best european club tournement in the world  :|

all ive got to say about last night is ......

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oh and Ronaldo's diving and histrionics was a disgrace - what was more disgraceful was the referee not booking him at any point for it

he was brought down by Marquez, blatant pen, then Toure has a lunge at him, not a stone waller but seen them given, he was kicked all over the place last nite

Really couldn't give a shit if he plays good or crap

everyone singles out Ronaldo because of how good he is, Rooney was shite last nite, no one has mentioned that

Agree 100% take your gooner specs off Fatters the Marquez one he didn't even look at the ball he was just stopping Ronaldo getting to it.  The Toure one is more debatable but he makes contact with Ronaldo before he gets the ball, didn't think they would get 2 penalities at the Nou Camp mind.  All set up for both 2nd legs in the champions league next week should be an exciting finish to the competition.

Fuck off Gooner.

That just about sums things up nicely Ralphus !

 :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

Last night's match was dreadful, I'm usually quite pro-Utd but last night I felt myself wanting Barca to grab a winner, just to teach Fergie that his negative tactics are the wrong way ahead.

Still think 0-0's not the great result some were saying it was last night, one Barca away goal and Utd are up against it, and it'll only serve them right.  It's not as if Ferguson's not been undone by 0-0 first leg away results in the past, Borussia Dortmund in the mid 90's springs to mind.

Man Utd will do the business at Old Trafford. They just need to stop Barca pushing forward early on who will be looking for that away goal.

Agreed, it will be a very different approach from Man U at old trafford and I think the 0-0 will turn out to be a very good result.  The british press once again got carried away writing off Barcelona as if they were just some joke team, not many teams have gone to the Nou Camp in Europe in recent years and not been beaten.

Rooney was shite.

Playing Rooney out wide is a mistake in my view.

I think you'll see a different United at Old Trafford.

They miss Vidic too.

Cos he was played out of position.

Rooney has a great workrate tho as does Park so having them two on wings to get back and protect Evra & Hargreaves was the idea, to be honest they done a job didnt they, they drew a game in which they were second best in every area.

Agreed. A clean sheet at the Nou Camp is impressive.

Park was awful last night, a head less chicken, out of his depth.  Terrible performance.

Played for work rate though rather than ability, they knew he would put in a shift which he did.  Nani for 90 minutes would of been a liability out there and Giggs doesn't have the legs currently.

2nd leg tonight, Ronaldo said he would score in this match.

United need an early goal because Barca have the upper hand if they get an away goal.

You're kidding.

Utd are dicing with death with this 0-0 away from home result, they've come unstuck using this tactic before and it wouldn't surprise me to see Barca take the lead tonight.  Whether Utd have enough in themselves to pull it around is anyone's guess.

I think Utd the semi-final bottlers will come unstuck again

I thin k I agree with you Adje, should be another close one though.

I'm going for Utd to bounce back and win by a goal in a real entertaining game, Barca have talked alot of trash in the build up, will be interesting to see if they can back it up.

Tonight could go either way, but United are in a far better position tonight than they were this time last year when they capitulated in Milan. Put it this way, if Rooney and Vidic were injured last year they wouldn't have as many options as they do now.

I think Barca will score, it depends on how many united get... which all depends on what formation fergie plays. He needs to stick the the 4-4-2 that's served him so well up until now. Toon and Tevez up top, ron on the right, carrick and anderson in the middle etc etc.

Gonna be one hell of a game!

is this on ITV?

yep. tomorrow on sky

cool. thats my evening sorted.

I don't think it was in the plan for Ronaldo to miss the penalty  :wink:

0-0 is a great result in the first leg for the home side.
This could go either way, Barcelona are rocking in the Spanish leagues at the moment, but you just have to think they are saving all their performances for this match.
Its a non-betting game for me, so close to call.

For Barca you mean Dell?  I agree the first leg result is a cracker for Barca, as the away goal is so important, great story on Utd's late champions league failures, I'm really surprised Fergie didn't play two up front at the Nou Camp.

Yes for Barca, don't think they've lost any advantage from the home leg, but saying that couldn't call how the game will go tonight.

So many brilliant players on show, lets hope both sides come out and try to win the game. Great for the neutrals.

I'd go with that Dell, like you say not a match for the on line gambling!

I think Barca might nick a 1-1 and go through.

Fergie gone with Park in the midfield and Hargreaves at right back again.  There maybe trouble ahead.  I hope I'm wrong as I'd like to see them get to the final.

not many other options to be fair Jan

United will win this game. They played poorly in the first leg, whereas Barca turned in their best performance of the season.

United 3 Barca 1 (If they're lucky)

barca to go through

Funny seeing Fergie slagging off the ref at the weekend, especially after he told everyone a couple of weeks ago that they should respect the officials.

I think Man United will win, but hope that Barcelona do. I don't like seeing negative football being rewarded.

What if Barca nick an ealry goal and defend for 85 minutes?  :)

As others have said, too close to call. I'd say Man Utd to go through if pushed but it's really not one to stick your money on!

Well they will have scored no?

Man United will win though. If you're a betting man, then get on that.

I'd rather see Anderson in there than Park, but I know what you mean re:right back.

And Lebowski come on you can hardly call Utd defensive, okay they were at the Nou Camp but on the whole they play football the right way.

Anderson is a central midfielder, Park is playing right hand side, the only option would be Giggs on the left and Nani on the right, With Park and Nani i feel thats more attacking than having Giggs in there

You are sticking up for them because Ferguson is Scottish yes?

That's right, it's the same with Alistair Darling and Gordon Brown, best politicians in the land them two!! :|

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And I would walk 500 miles...

im going for Ronaldo to have a stormer and win it for Utd

Viva Ronaldo...

hope the cunt gets injured.

fucking good crack from scholes, and not a stepover in sight.

Very good goal.

Nothing's changed though, Barcelona still only need to score once to go through.

something has changed, Man u will go through if it stays like this. and if barca get one, man u only need one more.

Also no way will there be penalties or extra time now...................

Fair play Utd

all-english final it is. how dull. johnny foreigner better buck up his ideas.

It was another rubbish game overhyped by ITV.

why wouldnt there be hype around man utd/barcelona game? hardly blame ITV for a poor game although their coverage is shite, Tevez is mint

Barca looked half-arsed,especially Henry and Gudjohnson.Good battling by Manchester though

did tevez ever stop running?

and messi must have a magnet in his boots

DIdn't think the game was that bad myself. Maybe it was cos I was in a room full of plastic United and Chelsea "fans" arguing with eachother constantly for added entertainment!

Ronaldo did nothing. Tevez was great, Messi even better. Barca just looked short of anything upfront for the most part so fair play to United.

I wasn't talking about the build up I'm talking about the fact that they describe the game that wasn't as good as they make out.

Whatever happened to commentators saying that games were "scrappy, nervy but they got through" instead they talk about things that have happened decades ago and a club having an affinity with a trophy they've only won twice.

I don't care that Manchester United went through - I just hate the circus of top flight football.

Ronaldo looked fucked towards the end, in need of a rest pronto.

oh ok mate sorry

I like the idea of a Liverpool v Man U final

Apparently the game kicks off around 11pm Moscow time,thats alot of time to be drinking Vodka.Thats got to spell trouble :P

No surprise really, Barcelona seem pretty weak now. The premiership is just way stronger than the other leagues at the moment.

I saw Barcelona last month when they demolished a shitter than shit Levante 5-1 - give them time and they'll destroy you - but they don't do enough tactically in Europe, they seem to expect it to work eventually even when under pressure.

Both sets of fans flying out from Manchester airport too.

To be honest both clubs have fans all over the place but I see your point.

Scholes = Brilliant.

Like to see Lampard do that, like to see him try!

Scholes is a truly awesome player. Barely gets any credit compared to Lampard and Gerrard which I think is unfair.

he's still better than both now, let alone in his prime.

I'll get shot down for this, but I think Wes 'the first ginger black man' Brown had a great game tonight. He's been very good this season, or at least the games i've seen, looks a completely different player now he's playing regularly.

Booo. Does that mean an English team is definitely going to win it? Oh well, looks like Chelsea are the lesser of the 3 evils. If I've got the last 3 teams right anyway.

agreed, him and tevez were tops for me.

If Scholes could tackle he'd be a great player, as it is he can't tackle for toffee so he's a very good attacking midfielder.  So annoying the way he goes he for tackle and just dangles that ginger leg of his in there and gives away a free kick, nearly, every single time.

I have never said this before, but Wes Brown was brilliant. He had a cracking game! I thought Hargreaves was also a bit good.

Unlike last week Park played well too.  Maybe this Ferguson fella does know what he's on about. :wink:

I know it won't, but I hope the final lives up to expectations, not some match where both sides are too scared to lose, lets just see both teams go for it, and whoever's better takes the trophy home.

I have seen utd play a few times this year and to be fair park has always played well

Completely agree.

He cleared so many balls toward the end it was unreal.

Scholes was great apart from the unnecessary free kick on the edge of the area he gave away within the first minute or so.

Park worked hard as did Tevez.

If UEFA had a brain, they would now switch the game to Wembley.

You need a visa to get to Moscow (at £95 a pop), and they are going to have 40,000+ flying over from England in 3 weeks time.

That'll go down well with the fans who have already bought flights, booked rooms.

are you implying Scholes isnt a great player?

Only the best English central midfielder of the last 20 odd years, countless trophies, some simply classic goals.

Part of, what was at the time the best midfield in the world.

If only he could tackle eh!

Stop being gay for Scholes DV. He's not that good.

He tried to tackle last night and nearly gave away a penalty after 50 secs!

did anyone else notice Pleats comment about Scholes "...and when he was younger, he actually used to get a lot of goals from headers"

really David? i think you're mistaken, unless your memory is better than mine, which is unlikely.

United looked solid at the end. Van Der Sar is an annoying ponce. I'm glad Scholes scored.

He is past his prime now, but is still an excellent player.

Scholes > Gerrard > Lampard

I know, you're just fishing anyway, but meh  :D

Van Der Sar can't kick for toffee.

I thought Ronaldo was excellent. Was superb in the way he takes players away from spaces for the forward to run into it, while his distribution was great.

Brown and Ferdinand were immense, evra to keep messi quiet wihout getting booked was great too. I feared for United with park and Scholes in the line up, and while I still think Annderson would have been more effective in defending against Xavi and Iniesta, Scholes played well, Park was superb. Tevez ran the line well, overall a superb team performance.

Scholes is defininitely past his best, but his game's changing now. He sits deeper and sprays balls about instead of getting forward.

And yes Oxford fan, he scored quite a lot with his head in his early days!

I remember him scoring a hat-trick for England against Poland, and two of them were with his head.

he's small, but used to get into those positions a lot. He score seven out of 20 with his head one season.

United kept Messi quiet did they? I think I can remember him being tackled all of once. United got the result they deserved, but Messi was the best player on the pitch by light years. And he's only 20.

I have a strong feeling that he is going to do something horrible to England one day, if we ever qualify for the World Cup again...

That's because he is crap

Van der Sar is poor.