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« Reply #7575 on: Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 15:16:10 » |
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I don't agree it was a PR stunt.
More not planned properly response to a possible worse case scenarion that didn't happen.
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« Reply #7576 on: Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 15:21:46 » |
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Thanks Samdy, that's very illuminating. Still not sure it adds up though - £22bn is amount expected to be spent in 2020-21, but according to the figures in there "only" £4bn had been spent by October 2020. Test and Trace started in May 2020, so they spent £4bn in 5 months, and then expected to spend £18bn in the remaining 6 months to April 2021. According to PHE the UK has carried out some 94m PCR tests since April 2020 ( https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing). You can buy a test privately for £120 ( https://www.boots.com/covid-19-testing/covid-19-testing-service). Given the govt have been buying them in bulk, you'd assume they're getting them for substantially less than that, but let's assume for the sake of argument they've made as shit a job of PCR test procurement as they have of everything else, and they're paying £120 each for them. That's £11.2bn, half of the annual £22bn, and likely to be more like half that. According to the full-fact article, which is using govt figures, around 70% of the cost of test and trace is testing i.e. £15bn is supposedly being spent on testing. So where is the other between £4bn - £9bn going? (lower end assumes £120 per test, upper end assumes around half that). And presumably there is similar featherbedding* in the contact tracing as well. *theft, let's be honest
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« Reply #7577 on: Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 15:29:42 » |
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Rivoting stuff
Ravioliting stuff.
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'I'm gonna tell you the secret. There's a threat, you end it and you don't feel ashamed about enjoying it. You smell the gunpowder and you see the blood, you know what that means? It means you're alive. You've won. You take the heads so that you don't ever forget.'
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« Reply #7578 on: Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 15:33:02 » |
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Entire UK Primary Care budget - £9 Billion Entire UK Police Budget - £15 Billion Entire UK Fire Service Budget - £3 Billion Cost of 5% pay rise for NHS nurses - £500 million Money handed out to a retired jockey to run Test and Trace - £37 Billion.
Jobs for the boys - Priceless. For everything else, there's corruption...
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'I'm gonna tell you the secret. There's a threat, you end it and you don't feel ashamed about enjoying it. You smell the gunpowder and you see the blood, you know what that means? It means you're alive. You've won. You take the heads so that you don't ever forget.'
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« Reply #7579 on: Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 15:45:38 » |
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Thanks Samdy, that's very illuminating. Still not sure it adds up though - £22bn is amount expected to be spent in 2020-21, but according to the figures in there "only" £4bn had been spent by October 2020. Test and Trace started in May 2020, so they spent £4bn in 5 months, and then expected to spend £18bn in the remaining 6 months to April 2021. According to PHE the UK has carried out some 94m PCR tests since April 2020 ( https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing). You can buy a test privately for £120 ( https://www.boots.com/covid-19-testing/covid-19-testing-service). Given the govt have been buying them in bulk, you'd assume they're getting them for substantially less than that, but let's assume for the sake of argument they've made as shit a job of PCR test procurement as they have of everything else, and they're paying £120 each for them. That's £11.2bn, half of the annual £22bn, and likely to be more like half that. According to the full-fact article, which is using govt figures, around 70% of the cost of test and trace is testing i.e. £15bn is supposedly being spent on testing. So where is the other between £4bn - £9bn going? (lower end assumes £120 per test, upper end assumes around half that). And presumably there is similar featherbedding* in the contact tracing as well. *theft, let's be honest Was reading apiece from a lass whose son works in the T&T programme. Gets paid 40 hrs a week, £10 an hour, has to provide his own lap top to use and had to buy own headset, pays for own Wi-Fi. Wherever that cash has gone its not going to the people on the ground!
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« Reply #7581 on: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 15:25:18 » |
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Their consistent ‘following the best advice’ mantra was always going to be their get out of jail card when things inevitably went tits up.
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« Reply #7582 on: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 15:27:05 » |
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Their consistent ‘following the best advice’ mantra was always going to be their get out of jail card when things inevitably went tits up.
Yup. Even when they consistently didn't.
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« Reply #7583 on: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 18:54:45 » |
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The decision amongst some EU countries to suspend the Oxford vaccine has left me completely and utterly baffled. From what I understand the number of blood clots amongst the millions who have been vaccinated is, if anything, less than you would expect amongst a random sample of the same size who haven’t had the vaccine. Anybody have any idea the rationale behind this as I’m thoroughly stumped.
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« Reply #7584 on: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 18:56:31 » |
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looks like supply issues are about to hit the UK in April. so it's over 40s probably won't be done until may
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« Reply #7585 on: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 19:04:26 » |
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Get the stuff from Europe that they don’t want to use.
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« Reply #7586 on: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 19:07:28 » |
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Get the stuff from Europe that they don’t want to use.
They won’t give them up, which suggests this is all political. Which, if true, is completely unacceptable
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« Reply #7587 on: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 19:08:49 » |
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looks like supply issues are about to hit the UK in April. so it's over 40s probably won't be done until may Seems unlikely. Good job we’ve had such a successful rollout so far, hopefully will mitigate the damage done.
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« Reply #7588 on: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 19:10:40 » |
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The decision amongst some EU countries to suspend the Oxford vaccine has left me completely and utterly baffled. From what I understand the number of blood clots amongst the millions who have been vaccinated is, if anything, less than you would expect amongst a random sample of the same size who haven’t had the vaccine. Anybody have any idea the rationale behind this as I’m thoroughly stumped.
From what I’ve read, it’s the nature of the clots not the volume. And the thinking was it was a batch of the vaccines, rather than the vaccine itself
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« Reply #7589 on: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 19:13:55 » |
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From what I’ve read, it’s the nature of the clots not the volume. And the thinking was it was a batch of the vaccines, rather than the vaccine itself
Was not aware of either of those things, thanks. Really hope this doesn’t create distrust of the vaccine. I’d still get it in a heartbeat
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