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Title: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, October 1, 2010, 13:57:54
I know both phones, particularly the desire, are covered on this site, so I apologise for starting a new thread but...

I'm due a new phone, and cannot decide between the HTC Desire for free or the Iphone 4 for £140 up front and five pound a month more?

I don't know masses about the HTC, but is the Iphone really worth the difference or should I just get the HTC? I just don't know enough to make a choice at the mo so some succinct info would be appreciated.


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: Chubbs on Friday, October 1, 2010, 14:16:18
get the desire z


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 1, 2010, 14:22:40
you rich people , tough choices :-) I like android.  not yet as many applications, slightly less easy to use and not as fashionable.  that's because I'm not an i woman. its not locked to apples closed approach either.

I'm getting the mrs an 80 quid orange san francisco on payg. processor is a bit weak but for that price its a bargain.   


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, October 1, 2010, 14:30:21
If you've got a Mac or an iPod then it's a pretty simple choice - get an iPhone.

Otherwise it's a harder decision, I reckon it's worth the extra money but others don't. You've got a far wider selection of apps, it's easier to use, feature wise it comes out top, more storage out of the box (and a 32gb card for the HTC to match the top iPhone isn't cheap) for example.


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: pauld on Friday, October 1, 2010, 14:45:35
If you're used to Apple products, you'll probably prefer the iPhone.

If you don't like Apple's walled garden approach (ie we decide how you should use your computer/smartphone/whatever, there is only one way and it's the Jobs way and you don't want to have to hack the thing just to get it to do what you want), go for the Desire

Conversely, if you don't mind being restricted in what you can do/install on it, but like the idea that the trade-off for these restrictions is that Apple can optimise the hell out of the user experience, go for an iPhone.

If you want to make phone calls on it without being told there's a right and a wrong way to hold it, don't go near iPhone 4

If you own any form of polo neck, you should buy an iPhone :)


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: Sussex on Friday, October 1, 2010, 14:55:16
I've got a Mac, used to have an iPhone, now have a Desire and want a polo neck for Christmas.

I like Desire, for no other reason (in my opinion - not fact) than that it does all the bits I use most (web/email/stuff) faster.

Don't use it for music and I don't like talking to people so can't comment on those bits.


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, October 1, 2010, 15:18:42
If you don't like Apple's walled garden approach (ie we decide how you should use your computer/smartphone/whatever, there is only one way and it's the Jobs way and you don't want to have to hack the thing just to get it to do what you want), go for the Desire.

The walled garden approach isn't always the bad thing you make it out to be. I prefer it as it means there is far less to go wrong and when something does go wrong it's pretty simple for Apple to fix it as they have so much control over it. It's one of the reason Mac's are more stable and reliable than PC's, a controlled environment so less chance of problems with drivers and the like.

Depends what you prefer though. I don't have the time and can't be arsed fucking around with my phone, the iPhone does everything I want with the minimum of fuss. Setting it up is far easier and quicker than Android. Really need to get the latest one though as my 3G is a bit shit now.



Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: pauld on Friday, October 1, 2010, 15:27:09
The walled garden approach isn't always the bad thing you make it out to be. I prefer it as it means there is far less to go wrong and when something does go wrong it's pretty simple for Apple to fix it as they have so much control over it. It's one of the reason Mac's are more stable and reliable than PC's, a controlled environment so less chance of problems with drivers and the like.
Yeah, I covered that in the next point.
Conversely, if you don't mind being restricted in what you can do/install on it, but like the idea that the trade-off for these restrictions is that Apple can optimise the hell out of the user experience, go for an iPhone.
Swings and roundabouts innit?

Depends what you prefer though. I don't have the time and can't be arsed fucking around with my phone
Nor do I, which is why I can't understand why virtually everyone who has an iPhone goes on about how easy it is to use, but then they have to jailbreak it to get it to do what they want.


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: woolster on Friday, October 1, 2010, 15:31:34
my mrs got a HTC wildfire, i got an iphone & must admit i do envy her :D


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: pauld on Friday, October 1, 2010, 15:36:44
I think what it boils down to PandaPaws is that there isn't actually an answer to the question. They're both extremely capable phones, each with their strong points, each have points that some will really like while others will regard those same points as a weakness. Go into Carphone Warehouse or somewhere with a "script" of all the things you're likely to use the phone for and try them out.


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, October 1, 2010, 15:41:13
You know what I want? A phone that is actually a phone. A phone that I talk with and might send a text with on occasion. No ringtones, no bluetooth, no internet, no email, no games, no camera, no storage, etc., etc.

I would also like massive battery life, which must be easy if you can get 1 month out of a Kindle and a day out of a smart phone. Soon an enterprising individual will make a stylish phone straight out of the Flip mould. It'll work, the battery will last for a week, it'll be simple and then I can stop being forced into using these over-featurized entertainment centres. :)


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, October 1, 2010, 15:46:51
Nor do I, which is why I can't understand why virtually everyone who has an iPhone goes on about how easy it is to use, but then they have to jailbreak it to get it to do what they want.

Mine isn't jail broken and I haven't seen a single good reason to do it, other than to use pirated apps.

What are all these functions that you can only do via a jail break?


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: pauld on Friday, October 1, 2010, 16:24:30
Mine isn't jail broken and I haven't seen a single good reason to do it, other than to use pirated apps.

What are all these functions that you can only do via a jail break?
No idea, I don't have an iPhone. Why don't you ask all the other iPhone users on here, pretty much all of them seem to have jail broken their phones, every time there's a new ios release thread, it's full of how do you jailbreak it?


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: pauld on Friday, October 1, 2010, 16:31:49
You know what I want? A phone that is actually a phone. A phone that I talk with and might send a text with on occasion.
That's just crazy talk :)


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, October 1, 2010, 17:01:27
No idea, I don't have an iPhone. Why don't you ask all the other iPhone users on here, pretty much all of them seem to have jail broken their phones, every time there's a new ios release thread, it's full of how do you jailbreak it?

They only do it so they can run pirated apps. It's got very little to do with extra functionality they can't get otherwise.


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, October 1, 2010, 20:31:23
Obviously I own a Desire and love it but I'll try to give you some things to think about rather than say one is better than the other (mega post alert):

If you want it to replace an mp3 player then as Johnny says a bigger memory card for the Desire will cost you so factor that in. But even with that the Desire is great value for money.

The Desire uses the Android operating system but has HTC's 'Sense' user interface to make it look pretty and ting. The Desire interface is pretty slick in my opinion, but there are more options to play around with which may make it harder for some people to use. I've googled the occasional thing to find out how to do it, but that's been more for things like push settings for email accounts.

Also I have loads of sexy widgets all over the place on my homescreens. Great for things like quickly viewing the next few Swindon fixtures at a glance or changing settings very quickly. I have no idea if you can do this on an iPhone or whether it's important to you.

If touch web browsing is your thing, I honestly don't think there is much between the phones. You do get flash player with Android though, which is ace if you want to watch pornhub on your mobile. Oh and you can turn off 'show mobile versions of websites' so you can get the full site up no problem. The TEF works great on it which is really the most important thing.

Android's greatest downfall is the market. It's improved massively in the past few months and I think it will continue that way. The big players have come on board, you have official apps for most things now. I've yet to not find an app which does what I want and I've never had to pay for an app either. Obviously you get the best out of the google apps too, turn-by-turn navigation is built in through free google maps etc. But the market is not as extensive or developed as Apple's.

As Android phones are all different, it's harder to optimize games. Therefore if mobile gaming is the be all and end all then an iPhone is probably for you. The games on the Android market aren't shit, but iPhone has a bigger selection and better ones.

The best part of Android (for me) is that you don't have to plug it into your pc to sync it at all. I even transfer files to and from my pc using wi-fi now.

Best advice is to find recent reviews/tests/walkthroughs of each on youtube. You can then decide if the iPhone's interface is going to be worth the extra dough.


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: jonny72 on Saturday, October 2, 2010, 12:20:14
You do get flash player with Android though, which is ace if you want to watch pornhub on your mobile.

Pornhub works fine on my iPhone, as do the vast majority of the decent websites.


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: yeo on Saturday, October 2, 2010, 13:59:57
I dont own a mobile anymore,its great though almost impossible to have any mates.ive not seen anyone for months.

I prefered it before mobiles,when you'd go out and hope you'd bump into someone and almost always did..


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, October 3, 2010, 11:43:16
Pornhub works fine on my iPhone, as do the vast majority of the decent websites.

Yeah they make iPhone/mobile specific sites. Some sites mobile versions are better, others the full site is.


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 21:24:55
You'll all no doubt be interested to know that I ignored all of you cunts and got the Samsung Galaxy


Title: Re: Iphone 4 vs HTC Desire
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 21:27:42
Thanks for wasting our time. You cunt.