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Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 20:53:33
I noticed on the Rivals boards that Reg has been making some very good points about people who don't come to the games for a variety of reasons possibly damaging the club etc.

Anyway, it struck me just how many people on the various STFC forums are always moaning yet refuse to come to the games. If you can't afford it or you have to make a long journey every week, then I can understand - even if it doesn't stop loads of others - but what's the point?

Frankly, I've got zero time and no respect whatsoever for people who refuse to support the club both financially and from the stands simply because they don't like our manager, our board, the ticket prices, the hotdogs in the Arkells stand, whatever. Whilst everyone has got a right to say what they think on the forums, their opinions hold very little weight with me.

What disturbs me even more is fans of 30-40 years who are giving up hope, why?

Just a rant. Stayaway fans can fuck off.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Johno on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 21:28:29
the hot dogs in the arkells use to fall apart...crap bun!

anyway, stayaway fans do frustrate me but guess thats there decision. shouldn't say really that there swindon fans if they don't give a damn.


Title: Re: Stayaway fans
Post by: Asher on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 21:32:12
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
I noticed on the Rivals boards that Reg has been making some very good points about people who don't come to the games for a variety of reasons possibly damaging the club etc.

Anyway, it struck me just how many people on the various STFC forums are always moaning yet refuse to come to the games. If you can't afford it or you have to make a long journey every week, then I can understand - even if it doesn't stop loads of others - but what's the point?

Frankly, I've got zero time and no respect whatsoever for people who refuse to support the club both financially and from the stands simply because they don't like our manager, our board, the ticket prices, the hotdogs in the Arkells stand, whatever. Whilst everyone has got a right to say what they think on the forums, their opinions hold very little weight with me.

What disturbs me even more is fans of 30-40 years who are giving up hope, why?

Just a rant. Stayaway fans can fuck off.


Sonic, hope your sitting down, cos I have to say I totally agree with that post 100% (is that a first?)


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Tails on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 21:57:43
They aren't fans in my eyes.


Title: Re: Stayaway fans
Post by: Spud on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 22:01:51
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
I noticed on the Rivals boards that Reg has been making some very good points about people who don't come to the games for a variety of reasons possibly damaging the club etc.

Anyway, it struck me just how many people on the various STFC forums are always moaning yet refuse to come to the games. If you can't afford it or you have to make a long journey every week, then I can understand - even if it doesn't stop loads of others - but what's the point?

Frankly, I've got zero time and no respect whatsoever for people who refuse to support the club both financially and from the stands simply because they don't like our manager, our board, the ticket prices, the hotdogs in the Arkells stand, whatever. Whilst everyone has got a right to say what they think on the forums, their opinions hold very little weight with me.

What disturbs me even more is fans of 30-40 years who are giving up hope, why?

Just a rant. Stayaway fans can fuck off.


Fans who dont go to games have fucked off.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: walrus on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 22:02:19
I agree, but they can't fuck off.  This club needs every penny it can get, and every fan it can get.  If sacking King means attendances will rise by a sizeable amount, surely it's another nail in his coffin?


Title: Re: Stayaway fans
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 22:04:19
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
Fans who dont go to games have fucked off.


Doesn't stop them moaning on the forums mind. The Rivals board in particular.


Title: Re: Stayaway fans
Post by: Spud on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 22:11:25
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
Fans who dont go to games have fucked off.


Doesn't stop them moaning on the forums mind. The Rivals board in particular.


If they go to the games then surley they have a right to moan at the shite weve played this season.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 22:20:01
My point was that people who don't come to the games out of choice and use King et al as an excuse for not attending can fuck off. Those loyal fans - of which we have many - who watch us home and away can moan all they want, people who don't go yet still moan are cunts.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Spud on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 22:23:19
Well i still go although i do feel like not bothering sometimes. :(


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 22:53:26
Quote

the hot dogs in the arkells use to fall apart...crap bun!


 The voice  of the true fan


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 23:13:24
There's no excuse for not going to every single match...ever  :wink:


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Spud on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 23:14:12
Quote from: "simon pieman"
There's no excuse for not going to every single match...ever  :wink:


Even with King in charge?. :?


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 23:16:15
I wouldn't know tbh  :oops:


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Spud on Sunday, September 11, 2005, 23:20:57
Quote from: "simon pieman"
I wouldn't know tbh  :oops:


 :mrgreen:  8)


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, September 12, 2005, 03:56:16
This might sound patronising, but as you grow older your priorities change.

NMH


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, September 12, 2005, 06:18:21
I havn't been to a game for ages. Only reason is though I'm either in Exeter and can't justify the £50 it will cost me for train and match yet alone money I'd need for going out drinking etc. or I'm in Swindon and I've already spent all my money at uni. At the moment it's becasue I'm working so I've been sleeping during the day on saturdays.

I will try and make a saturday game before I go back to uni but I have found that the longer you don't go to a game the more you forget why you used to go so much before. Especially when it sounds like things are pretty shit.  I still sometimes miss it but especially when funds are pretty low it can be pretty difficult to remember why.

As I'm a stayaway I rarely post anything football related. I no longer have the right to air my opnions on this part of the forum, it's the least interesting bit anyway.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Asher on Monday, September 12, 2005, 08:11:37
Quote from: "Nomoreheroes"
This might sound patronising, but as you grow older your priorities change.

NMH


I agree with that, personally at the moment ive just bought a new house so am having to pay bills left right and centre, hence why footballs near enough my only expense at the moment, not even out on the beer with teh lads after a game!


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Titch on Monday, September 12, 2005, 08:47:05
Quote from: "Nomoreheroes"
This might sound patronising, but as you grow older your priorities change.

NMH


Agree with that totally NMH.  I have found myself slowly over the last few years finding football dropping drastically in importance.  It really has now come to the stage where as i no longer enjoy i am think why bother.

We all go to football out of a sense of loyalty these days rather than particularly enjoying it, at least that is how it feels to me at least.  And to be fair thats fucking stupid, i can think of much better things to spend my hard earned money on, and also do things that i enjoy a damn site more at the moment.

Priorities do change as you get older.  I have a mortgage, a Mrs, a good job, my own work, family.  All of these are worth much more than football.  What do i do?  Do i go and watch a game of football, not enjoy it and go home depressed or do i stay home in my nice house, spend the money on something nice for the house or a nice meal, or go shopping.  At the moment I think i know what i am going to choose.

I have been a loyal supporter/ season ticket holder (until this season) for over 10 years since i had my own money so it pains me to say this but i really am seriously considering whether to continue with it all. :(


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: DiV on Monday, September 12, 2005, 11:12:53
you can tell the stay away fans to fuck off all you want, but sadly we need them, we need the money and a bit of success would bring them all back...look at the Brighton home leg 14k...where are they now?


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Sade on Monday, September 12, 2005, 11:18:36
The fact that you call them fans is right though.Theres a difference between fans and supporters.Supporters are the people that get to as many games as poss and show their support,whether or not they are 'king in' or 'king out'.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 12, 2005, 11:24:36
When the going gets tough, the though whinge a bit and go shopping with the misses instead.

Really, most of the whinging is that king is boss, I can understand that, but the fans have been using one excuse after another for not going to a game since McMahon left. The only sure fire way to get fans in is to do well and gain promotion. The only sure fire way to do that is to have ££££££££


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Piemonte on Monday, September 12, 2005, 11:39:24
Quote from: "Titch"
Quote from: "Nomoreheroes"
This might sound patronising, but as you grow older your priorities change.

NMH


Agree with that totally NMH.  I have found myself slowly over the last few years finding football dropping drastically in importance.  It really has now come to the stage where as i no longer enjoy i am think why bother.

We all go to football out of a sense of loyalty these days rather than particularly enjoying it, at least that is how it feels to me at least.  And to be fair thats fucking stupid, i can think of much better things to spend my hard earned money on, and also do things that i enjoy a damn site more at the moment.

Priorities do change as you get older.  I have a mortgage, a Mrs, a good job, my own work, family.  All of these are worth much more than football.  What do i do?  Do i go and watch a game of football, not enjoy it and go home depressed or do i stay home in my nice house, spend the money on something nice for the house or a nice meal, or go shopping.  At the moment I think i know what i am going to choose.

I have been a loyal supporter/ season ticket holder (until this season) for over 10 years since i had my own money so it pains me to say this but i really am seriously considering whether to continue with it all. :(


I'm sorry Titch, you've always seemed like a decent fella on here BUT "buying something nice for the house" over fooball? WTF???

I know we are shit and all is not well at STFC but frankly I'd rather go and watch Oxford then spend my saturdays buying coffee tables in fucking Ikea with the Mrs.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Asher on Monday, September 12, 2005, 11:51:22
I second that! Im still watching swindon just cant afford a £100 night in town at the mo!


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Titch on Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:05:43
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "Titch"
Quote from: "Nomoreheroes"
This might sound patronising, but as you grow older your priorities change.

NMH


Agree with that totally NMH.  I have found myself slowly over the last few years finding football dropping drastically in importance.  It really has now come to the stage where as i no longer enjoy i am think why bother.

We all go to football out of a sense of loyalty these days rather than particularly enjoying it, at least that is how it feels to me at least.  And to be fair thats fucking stupid, i can think of much better things to spend my hard earned money on, and also do things that i enjoy a damn site more at the moment.

Priorities do change as you get older.  I have a mortgage, a Mrs, a good job, my own work, family.  All of these are worth much more than football.  What do i do?  Do i go and watch a game of football, not enjoy it and go home depressed or do i stay home in my nice house, spend the money on something nice for the house or a nice meal, or go shopping.  At the moment I think i know what i am going to choose.

I have been a loyal supporter/ season ticket holder (until this season) for over 10 years since i had my own money so it pains me to say this but i really am seriously considering whether to continue with it all. :(


I'm sorry Titch, you've always seemed like a decent fella on here BUT "buying something nice for the house" over fooball? WTF???

I know we are shit and all is not well at STFC but frankly I'd rather go and watch Oxford then spend my saturdays buying coffee tables in fucking Ikea with the Mrs.


I think it is more frustration than anything else.  Of course i would prefer to watch football than go shopping, maybe i am just venting!  But at the end of the day if you go football and you dont enjoy it, whats the point?  At least if you buy something nice for the house it makes your Mrs Happy, and you  :wink:  :D


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:08:43
Quote from: "Nomoreheroes"
This might sound patronising, but as you grow older your priorities change.

NMH


dam right.

i do my best to travel to football when/where i can but now living in brum, having one car between 2 and also paying bills/loans etc takes it's toll so other prorities come into it. Especially now i'm about to buy a new house etc.
I've said before if i lived back where i was from i would be there week in week out (cos i would get a lift with Ralphy)

i don't go cos of who is in charge etc or how the club is run i go cos it's the football club i have supported through thick and thin (i was there in 1990) and will continue to do so no matter what. The fact we now have an inept manager in charge still wont stop me.  

Keep the red flag flying high......................


Title: Re: Stayaway fans
Post by: Melksham Red on Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:26:45
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
I noticed on the Rivals boards that Reg has been making some very good points about people who don't come to the games for a variety of reasons possibly damaging the club etc.

Anyway, it struck me just how many people on the various STFC forums are always moaning yet refuse to come to the games. If you can't afford it or you have to make a long journey every week, then I can understand - even if it doesn't stop loads of others - but what's the point?

Frankly, I've got zero time and no respect whatsoever for people who refuse to support the club both financially and from the stands simply because they don't like our manager, our board, the ticket prices, the hotdogs in the Arkells stand, whatever. Whilst everyone has got a right to say what they think on the forums, their opinions hold very little weight with me.

What disturbs me even more is fans of 30-40 years who are giving up hope, why?

Just a rant. Stayaway fans can fuck off.



This is why I don't take alot of notice of whats written on the forums. Most of the fuckers don't even go to games and that includes this forum. Just take no notice they're just sad bastards with nothing better to do but moan on an internet message board. Sad as fuck. They do not represent the majority in any way.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: yeo on Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:33:11
I think the majority on here go to games.

They buy me beers in the Merlin .


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: adje on Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:37:54
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "Titch"
Quote from: "Nomoreheroes"
This might sound patronising, but as you grow older your priorities change.

NMH


Agree with that totally NMH.  I have found myself slowly over the last few years finding football dropping drastically in importance.  It really has now come to the stage where as i no longer enjoy i am think why bother.

We all go to football out of a sense of loyalty these days rather than particularly enjoying it, at least that is how it feels to me at least.  And to be fair thats fucking stupid, i can think of much better things to spend my hard earned money on, and also do things that i enjoy a damn site more at the moment.

Priorities do change as you get older.  I have a mortgage, a Mrs, a good job, my own work, family.  All of these are worth much more than football.  What do i do?  Do i go and watch a game of football, not enjoy it and go home depressed or do i stay home in my nice house, spend the money on something nice for the house or a nice meal, or go shopping.  At the moment I think i know what i am going to choose.

I have been a loyal supporter/ season ticket holder (until this season) for over 10 years since i had my own money so it pains me to say this but i really am seriously considering whether to continue with it all. :(


I'm sorry Titch, you've always seemed like a decent fella on here BUT "buying something nice for the house" over fooball? WTF???

I know we are shit and all is not well at STFC but frankly I'd rather go and watch Oxford then spend my saturdays buying coffee tables in fucking Ikea with the Mrs.





Well said Pie-"New Men?"-Tossers!!


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Sussex on Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:45:20
Feel free to slate me, as I'm sure many of you will, but I'm with NMH and Titch etc.. on this one. The older I get, the more important other things become.

Be it the current boardroom, manager or whatever, STFC now comes pretty low on my list of life's priorities. Sad but true I'm afraid.

As I said, feel free..


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Titch on Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:47:44
Quote from: "adje"
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "Titch"
Quote from: "Nomoreheroes"
This might sound patronising, but as you grow older your priorities change.

NMH


Agree with that totally NMH.  I have found myself slowly over the last few years finding football dropping drastically in importance.  It really has now come to the stage where as i no longer enjoy i am think why bother.

We all go to football out of a sense of loyalty these days rather than particularly enjoying it, at least that is how it feels to me at least.  And to be fair thats fucking stupid, i can think of much better things to spend my hard earned money on, and also do things that i enjoy a damn site more at the moment.

Priorities do change as you get older.  I have a mortgage, a Mrs, a good job, my own work, family.  All of these are worth much more than football.  What do i do?  Do i go and watch a game of football, not enjoy it and go home depressed or do i stay home in my nice house, spend the money on something nice for the house or a nice meal, or go shopping.  At the moment I think i know what i am going to choose.

I have been a loyal supporter/ season ticket holder (until this season) for over 10 years since i had my own money so it pains me to say this but i really am seriously considering whether to continue with it all. :(


I'm sorry Titch, you've always seemed like a decent fella on here BUT "buying something nice for the house" over fooball? WTF???

I know we are shit and all is not well at STFC but frankly I'd rather go and watch Oxford then spend my saturdays buying coffee tables in fucking Ikea with the Mrs.





Well said Pie-"New Men?"-Tossers!!


Well that's a very intellgient argument to it isn't it? Twat!


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: adje on Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:48:55
ooooh-that hurt!


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Titch on Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:50:16
:soapy tit wank:


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Asher on Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:57:26
I think when you get older things change, if I had a kid this year say, I dont know if I could justify £200 a month going to watch town when I have to buy stuff for the baby?!?! I guess it effects everything like drinking going out, buying clothes all sorts.  Simple answer - Dont have kids


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Spud on Monday, September 12, 2005, 13:01:57
Quote from: "Asher"
I think when you get older things change, if I had a kid this year say, I dont know if I could justify £200 a month going to watch town when I have to buy stuff for the baby?!?! I guess it effects everything like drinking going out, buying clothes all sorts.  Simple answer - Dont have kids


My mate had a kid and it was born a couple of years back on the 1st Home game of the season, i told him that it was a poor excuse for not attending the game. :mrgreen:


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Asher on Monday, September 12, 2005, 13:03:34
ha ha bit harsh but also very true!


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Spud on Monday, September 12, 2005, 13:09:53
Quote from: "Asher"
ha ha bit harsh but also very true!


He knew i was mucking about. :)


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: red macca on Monday, September 12, 2005, 13:49:38
Quote from: "simon pieman"
There's no excuse for not going to every single match...ever  :wink:
i dont go but i still get programes shirts etc think i have every right to moan still


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Asher on Monday, September 12, 2005, 13:58:33
Quote from: "deanored"
Quote from: "simon pieman"
There's no excuse for not going to every single match...ever  :wink:
i dont go but i still get programes shirts etc think i have every right to moan still


what is the point in that


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: larwood on Monday, September 12, 2005, 14:04:00
Quote

what is the point in that

If i remember rightly deonored has been banned from the games.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Spud on Monday, September 12, 2005, 14:05:43
Quote from: "larwood"
Quote

what is the point in that

If i remember rightly deonored has been banned from the games.


You cant knock him for not going then. :mrgreen:


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Asher on Monday, September 12, 2005, 14:06:16
thats fair enough then


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: larwood on Monday, September 12, 2005, 14:22:55
I felt sorry for deanored when i first read it,now though i feel a bit jealous,he has the bets reason not to go. :)


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: red macca on Monday, September 12, 2005, 14:34:36
Quote from: "larwood"
I felt sorry for deanored when i first read it,now though i feel a bit jealous,he has the bets reason not to go. :)
dont feel jealous  for me i really wish i could go still..i would pay whatever still to go...like they say you dont realise what you got til its gone soapy tit wank


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 12, 2005, 15:39:55
Quote from: "magicroundabout"
Quote from: "Nomoreheroes"
This might sound patronising, but as you grow older your priorities change.

NMH


dam right.

i do my best to travel to football when/where i can but now living in brum, having one car between 2 and also paying bills/loans etc takes it's toll so other prorities come into it. Especially now i'm about to buy a new house etc.
I've said before if i lived back where i was from i would be there week in week out (cos i would get a lift with Ralphy)

i don't go cos of who is in charge etc or how the club is run i go cos it's the football club i have supported through thick and thin (i was there in 1990) and will continue to do so no matter what. The fact we now have an inept manager in charge still wont stop me.  

Keep the red flag flying high......................


like I said mate, those with extenuating circumstances such as work, expenses and personal reasons are fine by me, it's the people who have the choice to go but hide behind pathetic reasons like "I don't like King" or "the tickets are too expensive" when really they just can't be arsed. It's when these same people turn round and moan at the team/performance/manager/board but can't be bothered to show up and support the team that bothers me.

I think the vast majority of people on these forums go to games, if they don't they just post in the non-footy sections.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: land_of_bo on Monday, September 12, 2005, 17:42:57
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
Quote from: "magicroundabout"
Quote from: "Nomoreheroes"
This might sound patronising, but as you grow older your priorities change.

NMH


dam right.

i do my best to travel to football when/where i can but now living in brum, having one car between 2 and also paying bills/loans etc takes it's toll so other prorities come into it. Especially now i'm about to buy a new house etc.
I've said before if i lived back where i was from i would be there week in week out (cos i would get a lift with Ralphy)

i don't go cos of who is in charge etc or how the club is run i go cos it's the football club i have supported through thick and thin (i was there in 1990) and will continue to do so no matter what. The fact we now have an inept manager in charge still wont stop me.  

Keep the red flag flying high......................


like I said mate, those with extenuating circumstances such as work, expenses and personal reasons are fine by me, it's the people who have the choice to go but hide behind pathetic reasons like "I don't like King" or "the tickets are too expensive" when really they just can't be arsed. It's when these same people turn round and moan at the team/performance/manager/board but can't be bothered to show up and support the team that bothers me.

I think the vast majority of people on these forums go to games, if they don't they just post in the non-footy sections.[/quote]

I have to be honest, when I first read your original post on this thread,  I thought you twat....but the comment I have highlighted means I nonloger think that. I go to games when I can, I don't stay away for the sake of it.

I can't afford to go to every game, I wish I could.Until 97 I was a die hard fan, started going in 85 and from 90 - 94 missed only a handful of games, home and away.

Since then i have travelled the world, met a wonderful woman and bought a house in the country and settled down. I'm 30 years old and to be honest getting to the county ground is not a high priority, its more pressing that I make sure the mortgage etc is paid. When I can afford it, I go. I get to about one game a month.

That is why, like you say, when debate on this forum comes up about the team etc I just read with interest. not seeing every game means I feel I cannot have a valid input to the discussions. But your first post which practically told people like me to fuck off was a bit harsh I thought.

I've supported STFC since I was 10 years old, that will never change. I may not get to as many games as I used to but I still care enormously for the football club that got me interested in football at the very beginning. That also means I can have a voice on a forum like this, but as I said, I don't jump on the king out, he should play here, he should be dropped etc threads as I have no first hand knowledge expect for the odd game I manage to get to, this doesn't make me any less of a  fan though. ffs, I fucked up my a-levels by going to the second leg of the tranmere play off rather than going to college, that is some sort of commitment!

Anyway, I'm a bit pissed having just got home from watching the cricket and just felt I had to post this. I love STFC, and the fact I can't get to every game makes no difference to my support, or the validity of my viewpoint on our current situation.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 12, 2005, 17:59:52
sorry, I really didn't phrase my original post that well.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: land_of_bo on Monday, September 12, 2005, 18:04:25
I wasn't having a go! Don't worry, i just got home from the pub and felt like replying and my fingers got the better of me....

I read my post back and thought did I need to say that, but couldn't be fucked to delete it so left it!


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 12, 2005, 18:08:21
I don't mind being called a twat at all 8)

I understand that people's priorities change when they get older and whilst it seems far away for me, I'll be the same one day. My Dad has been a hardcore Town fan since the 60's and as I was growing up he couldn't go to football every week, especially once my Mum stopped working from home. I completely realise that some people simply can't watch Swindon every week because of finances, personal issues or simply because they're too busy. I'm just moaning about the people who complain about everything under the sun but don't go to the games because they don't like King or think tickets are a little too expensive.

For the record, I didn't mean to insinuate that just because you don't follow the team home and away you're not a real fan!! That goes for everyone.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Barnard on Tuesday, September 13, 2005, 13:59:50
I work shifts, have 2 kids, a wife and a mortgage. If I am not working and there is a game I'm there. The boys who I used to go with mostly live too far away to get to games, so I go on my own, its not as much fun but better than not going. The wife accepts that its important to me, and its never been a problem. Until this weekend.

Throughout the match on Saturday I could feel my frustration rising, and when Southend scored their second I left, I've never done that before. When I got home I realised that I hadn't enjoyed myself at all, and that I had sacrificed a rare Saturday with my family to sit through that rubbish.

I've got the Saturday of the Bradford game off, but right at this moment I don't know if I'll go to the game. The wife says not to be so stupid, but I'm really questioning whether its worth the time or money.

Can anyone offer me a good reason to attend?


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Asher on Tuesday, September 13, 2005, 14:05:23
when you cut yourself what colours your blood? exactly ok thats a shit reason

TAXI for ash


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Spud on Tuesday, September 13, 2005, 14:19:27
Quote from: "Asher"
when you cut yourself what colours your blood? exactly ok thats a shit reason

TAXI for ash


Mines Orange, whats yours?. :roll:


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, September 13, 2005, 14:31:51
Mines blue.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Asher on Tuesday, September 13, 2005, 14:36:14
Cunts


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Spud on Tuesday, September 13, 2005, 14:39:32
Quote from: "Asher"
Cunts


Thanks  :D


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, September 13, 2005, 23:13:46
Before the start of the season I was hoping to catch a game or two but I gave up looking for a summer job (long story) so I literally have fuck all cash and asking parents to pay my rent for my house at uni until my loan comes through  :?
In all honesty though, it got to August and I could have afforded to go to a game, hey even Whits and Yeovil were offering to pay for me (kindly) but I couldn't be arsed. I haven't exactly been to a lot of games in the last 4 years or so but I have tried to go to as many as possible. This season has been exception - I couldn't really give a toss. It's a bit of a worry but I've almost lost interest in football all together  :oops:


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 15:17:37
I think there is a difference between a "stayaway" and a "doesn't come".

A stayaway is making a decision to avoid the club, I think they are few and far between and their excuses usually don't stack up as they don't return.

A Doesn't Come is someone who just has lost that passion that made them run over hot coals to get to the ground before.  Any number of reasons probably cause this, but they can be enticed back - by success, ticket prices, a general feeling that it's exciting at the game etc.  These are the people who drift in and out and why our attendances fluctuate (and include me for 2-3 seasons now).  I come and go, the odd game here and there, and avoid discussions on matchday performances because of it (I can only comment specifically on what I see, and more generally on what I hear).  These people should never be criticised for not coming, because without them the club will die - you don't normally get more customers as a business by having a go at those who buy your goods a little less frequently.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Melksham Red on Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 16:56:29
I feel the need to stick up for Sonic here. He's criticising those who make comments about games that they have not been to. Everyone has a right to an opinion but the "ive supported the club for this long blah blah" doesn't wash. There seems to be a lot of fans on the forums that don't seem to go to ANY games but for some reason have the strongest opinions. I don't think their views count anymore regardless of what their support used to be like. If you only go to a handful of games a season that entitles you to an opinion because you've seen the crap first hand, I think it's those that don't go at all that Sonic is getting at. If you don't go to any games you're opinion is the worth the same as a Man U shirters from Kent!


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 17:31:16
I hate stayaway fans, and I don't see how they can call themselves supporters. Just when the club needs supporting the most, they fuck off. Mmm...helpful!


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 17:48:42
I have been to a grand total of ONE game this season!!

I feel sorry for those with season tickets!  :(


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Spud on Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 18:20:33
Im not going to the Bradford game.....






































.......of course im going you slags.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 18:28:31
If the attendances stay this way we are gonna be bust by January.

Surely that is enough to convince these so called fans to start watching? Would you rather we were crap or we lost the club altogether?


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 18:30:01
I reckon I would get a season ticket if I lived in the vicinity.

Tis easy for me to say however! :cry:


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 19:08:43
Quote from: "Tails"
If the attendances stay this way we are gonna be bust by January.

Surely that is enough to convince these so called fans to start watching? Would you rather we were crap or we lost the club altogether?
so true...


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Sussex on Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 19:11:24
I can rarely plan to go to a game because of work commitments, it's always a last minute thing as to whether I can go.

Even when I know I can, It's usually a spur of the moment thing on a Saturday morning, which in turn pisses off the likes of Mex, Walrus, JMH etc.. because we could have lift shared. As happened on Saturday.

Oh, and also sometimes pisses the missus off (Forest game). Sorry about that love :oops:


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Asher on Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 20:14:29
thought she was a fuck buddy? is sussex in love??


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: red macca on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 15:23:56
Quote from: "Melksham Red"
I feel the need to stick up for Sonic here. He's criticising those who make comments about games that they have not been to. Everyone has a right to an opinion but the "ive supported the club for this long blah blah" doesn't wash. There seems to be a lot of fans on the forums that don't seem to go to ANY games but for some reason have the strongest opinions. I don't think their views count anymore regardless of what their support used to be like. If you only go to a handful of games a season that entitles you to an opinion because you've seen the crap first hand, I think it's those that don't go at all that Sonic is getting at. If you don't go to any games you're opinion is the worth the same as a Man U shirters from Kent!
bollocks my opinion is as valid as anyones..ok i dont have a choice but even if i chose not to watch i have put enough in this club to have a opinion on what is going on at the moment,,,,,like they say football is entertainment you would pay silly money to keep watching shit films but you will allways say something about it still.....shit argument i know but just got bollocked at work so wanted a rant


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Sussex on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 15:30:40
Quote from: "Asher"
thought she was a fuck buddy? is sussex in love??


She was, but it's been going on for quite a while now, so I guess seeing each other is a better term?

And no I'm not  :)


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: DiV on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 15:30:55
Quote from: "deanored"
Quote from: "Melksham Red"
I feel the need to stick up for Sonic here. He's criticising those who make comments about games that they have not been to. Everyone has a right to an opinion but the "ive supported the club for this long blah blah" doesn't wash. There seems to be a lot of fans on the forums that don't seem to go to ANY games but for some reason have the strongest opinions. I don't think their views count anymore regardless of what their support used to be like. If you only go to a handful of games a season that entitles you to an opinion because you've seen the crap first hand, I think it's those that don't go at all that Sonic is getting at. If you don't go to any games you're opinion is the worth the same as a Man U shirters from Kent!
bollocks my opinion is as valid as anyones..ok i dont have a choice but even if i chose not to watch i have put enough in this club to have a opinion on what is going on at the moment,,,,,like they say football is entertainment you would pay silly money to keep watching shit films but you will allways say something about it still.....shit argument i know but just got bollocked at work so wanted a rant


You're opinion on the on pitch performance, arent valid though? because you didnt see them....


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: red macca on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 16:03:37
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "deanored"
Quote from: "Melksham Red"
I feel the need to stick up for Sonic here. He's criticising those who make comments about games that they have not been to. Everyone has a right to an opinion but the "ive supported the club for this long blah blah" doesn't wash. There seems to be a lot of fans on the forums that don't seem to go to ANY games but for some reason have the strongest opinions. I don't think their views count anymore regardless of what their support used to be like. If you only go to a handful of games a season that entitles you to an opinion because you've seen the crap first hand, I think it's those that don't go at all that Sonic is getting at. If you don't go to any games you're opinion is the worth the same as a Man U shirters from Kent!
bollocks my opinion is as valid as anyones..ok i dont have a choice but even if i chose not to watch i have put enough in this club to have a opinion on what is going on at the moment,,,,,like they say football is entertainment you would pay silly money to keep watching shit films but you will allways say something about it still.....shit argument i know but just got bollocked at work so wanted a rant


You're opinion on the on pitch performance, arent valid though? because you didnt see them....
i speak to enough people listen to the games and read all the reports...and all fairness i could be in timbacktoo and realise that they are playing shit at the moment


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 16:08:19
Hadwin is a terrible commentator, he never gives an accurate account of the game. I don't read Ritson's match reports either.

Basing your opinion on somone else's opinion is pointless.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: walrus on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 16:18:51
Quote from: "Sussex Red"
I can rarely plan to go to a game because of work commitments, it's always a last minute thing as to whether I can go.

Even when I know I can, It's usually a spur of the moment thing on a Saturday morning, which in turn pisses off the likes of Mex, Walrus, JMH etc.. because we could have lift shared. As happened on Saturday.

Oh, and also sometimes pisses the missus off (Forest game). Sorry about that love :oops:


Not if you were delivering secret packages....   :mrgreen:

I know what you mean, and it's fucking annoying as student tickets have to be booked in advanced, so a few times I've ended up booking tickets and not really being arsed to go, but having to drag myself along.  It also eats into Saturday evening drinking time!


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: red macca on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 16:36:41
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
Hadwin is a terrible commentator, he never gives an accurate account of the game. I don't read Ritson's match reports either.

Basing your opinion on somone else's opinion is pointless.
so your saying i should ignore every post on her sonic......ok how would you judge kings performance at the moment..the players performance and the boards performance ......please answer honestly


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: santini on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 16:42:05
Quote from: "sonicyouth"

Basing your opinion on somone else's opinion is pointless.


Based on that opinion, my so called pointless opinion is ... My Arse!

However, my opinion does have a point which is that, in my opinion, your opinion is naive. :wink:


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 17:05:26
Quote from: "deanored"
so your saying i should ignore every post on her sonic...


no, not at all. anyway my original post wasn't aimed at you. you don't have a choice when it comes to watching games, others do yet still don't attend.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Sussex on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 17:09:35
Quote from: "Walrus"
Not if you were delivering secret packages....   :mrgreen:


I don't know what you mean  :--


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: red macca on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 17:21:30
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
Quote from: "deanored"
so your saying i should ignore every post on her sonic...


no, not at all. anyway my original post wasn't aimed at you. you don't have a choice when it comes to watching games, others do yet still don't attend.
yeah true the ones who have a choice piss me off aswell. was just pissed off anyway...my big fat pregnant cunt of a boss is all hormonal got a bollocking told her to fuck off under my breath bit too loud ooops


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Melksham Red on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 17:34:39
How long you been banned for deano and is it a police ban?


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: red macca on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 17:36:44
Quote from: "Melksham Red"
How long you been banned for deano and is it a police ban?
yeah its one of those goverment ones......6 year ban 3 years left im appealing after the world cup though so fingers crossed


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Melksham Red on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 17:40:07
Bummer. I've served two bans in my time, it's a fucking nightmare isn't it.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: red macca on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 17:42:12
Quote from: "Melksham Red"
Bummer. I've served two bans in my time, it's a fucking nightmare isn't it.
yeah definatly is i,ve been going since i can remember.everyone tells you to sneak in it will be alright but fuck that i dont want a life ban


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: Melksham Red on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 17:43:45
No don't risk it. They'll spot you immediately, that's if you even manage to get in.


Title: Stayaway fans
Post by: red macca on Thursday, September 15, 2005, 17:50:37
i just hope that if my appeal goes through its league one football im watching