Coronavirus

[Nemo]

If R = 1, the infection rate number should be totally stable

R less than one means declining, even if it's going up within that - 0.5 means going down much faster than 0.99, but both should mean going down.

R more than 1 means trouble.

At least, I think that makes sense.

[4D]

It's which way it will go Dave

[Flashheart]

Latest Cambridge University and Public Health England estimates suggests the R-rate is above 1 in the North West and not a million miles away elsewhere....

Yeah.

But hindisght and all that

[Chunkyhair]

28th March:

Stephen Powis, NHS England medical director, warned the public that “now is not the time to be complacent” and “every one of us has a part to play”.

Speaking at the daily Downing Street press conference, he said: “If we can keep deaths below 20,000 we will have done very well in this epidemic.”

5th June:
UK passes 40,000 coronavirus deaths
The number of people who have died in the UK after testing positive for coronavirus has passed 40,000

Will someone ever in Govt come close to saying that perhaps we haven't done too well/could do better instead of congratulating themselves all the time on their crap "achievements".  Honesty would be welcome but unfortunately I think the majority have become inured to the bullshit so they carry on feeding us shit.

[pauld]

ONS have now done some analysis on the excess deaths and concluded that the majority are due to undiagnosed COVID. That's around 60,000 deaths directly caused by COVID according to the govt's own statisticians.

[Chunkyhair]

Oh, and R now back above 1 in North West.

[mexico red]

It’s very very interesting how Uk news is reported.
As an outsider looking in this week has been a proper eye opener.
Obviously huge coverage of all the shite in America but also lots of talk about Mexico and Brazil and how things are going mad there - Mexico hits 10,000 deaths!!!!!!

Uk has just hit 40,000 official deaths and there’s nothing on the bbc front page of their website. A suspicious mind may suggest they’ve been told to report anything but.

[pauld]

It’s very very interesting how Uk news is reported.
As an outsider looking in this week has been a proper eye opener.
Obviously huge coverage of all the shite in America but also lots of talk about Mexico and Brazil and how things are going mad there - Mexico hits 10,000 deaths!!!!!!

Uk has just hit 40,000 official deaths and there’s nothing on the bbc front page of their website. A suspicious mind may suggest they’ve been told to report anything but.

Shh, you're not allowed to compare with other countries because other countries do counting in foreign numbers that don't work properly like good old fashioned British numbers do.

[Sippo]

So the R is 1, or nearly 1, all over the country. What will happen now? What will Boris do?

Open the beer gardens! Yay!

[Matchworn Shirts]

It’s very very interesting how Uk news is reported.
As an outsider looking in this week has been a proper eye opener.
Obviously huge coverage of all the shite in America but also lots of talk about Mexico and Brazil and how things are going mad there - Mexico hits 10,000 deaths!!!!!!

Uk has just hit 40,000 official deaths and there’s nothing on the bbc front page of their website. A suspicious mind may suggest they’ve been told to report anything but.

You could already see the "you cannot compare death rates/numbers between countries because of X, Y & Z" in the media this morning. It still does not excuse the fact that 'officially' over 40.000 people have died and they certainly should not continue to hide behind such pathetic excuses.

[STFC_Manc]

It’s very very interesting how Uk news is reported.
As an outsider looking in this week has been a proper eye opener.
Obviously huge coverage of all the shite in America but also lots of talk about Mexico and Brazil and how things are going mad there - Mexico hits 10,000 deaths!!!!!!

Uk has just hit 40,000 official deaths and there’s nothing on the bbc front page of their website. A suspicious mind may suggest they’ve been told to report anything but.

Maybe it's a timing thing, as I can see it as the main story now?

[mexico red]

Maybe I’m on a European version but still tucked away.

The other thing I find odd is the putting British in front of things. Like “good British common sense” never noticed it when I lived in England . Thank god eh we haven’t got bad Norwegian common sense!

I think it’s striking how many times this gets used. Now I’ve mentioned it bet you notice

[Batch]

Can someone smarter than me explain how the R going up correlates with the infection number going down?

It's been answered. But I want to answer it again while avoiding doing work.

R=1 means we stay as we are. Each Covid positive person infects 1 other person.
R < 1 means cases will decrease
R > 1 means cases will increase

So fluctuating between 0.x and 1 will not increase the number of cases over time. R can breach 1 in a couple of areas but cases overall in the UK can still go down.

I think early on R was reported between 3 and 4. Scary shit that, if the mortality rate stayed at 10%

[horlock07]

Will someone ever in Govt come close to saying that perhaps we haven't done too well/could do better instead of congratulating themselves all the time on their crap "achievements".  Honesty would be welcome but unfortunately I think the majority have become inured to the bullshit so they carry on feeding us shit.

Why would they bother, plenty of people out there fully prepared to absolve them of any blame.

[Richie Wellen-Dowd]

It’s very very interesting how Uk news is reported.
As an outsider looking in this week has been a proper eye opener.
Obviously huge coverage of all the shite in America but also lots of talk about Mexico and Brazil and how things are going mad there - Mexico hits 10,000 deaths!!!!!!

Uk has just hit 40,000 official deaths and there’s nothing on the bbc front page of their website. A suspicious mind may suggest they’ve been told to report anything but.

It's because hideous amounts of deaths in the same place unfortunately become less newsworthy. It's the same for wars, civil unrest, insurrection etc.

There's also that certain milestones draw more attention, 10,000 seems to be one of them. I'm sure we'll get more reporting when we hit 50,000 and 100,000 unfortunately.

Shh, you're not allowed to compare with other countries because other countries do counting in foreign numbers that don't work properly like good old fashioned British numbers do.

You do realise there is a middle ground, don't you? The government can have failed terribly and the figures cannot tell the true picture at the same time.