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Fuckin bollocks, peacock(2nd half) apart they did not show no heart at all. If you are 3 down at home explain to me why we play STILL play 4 at the back and only use 2 subs. As for amankwa i felt sorry for him and smith no protection at all.
Sack this useless cunt now i have never been  so angry i swear i am not watching this shit til he has gone. Anyway i am sure the usual culprits will blame the fans.

Should have gone 3-4-3 and chased the game, listening to the radio thats what i wouldve done. Also wouldve bought McNamee on at half time instead of on the hour

Rant away DRS, you summed up such a pathetic, limp, gutless fucking performance so eloquently....

Did you go today??!

3-4-3 wouldn't have worked. we should've gone 3-5-2. We needed to Boss the midfield. In a way I can't blame Malpas. It was a very very poor defensive performance. You cannot blame the manager for that.

I agree, we should have come out with 3-5-2 second half, we couldve then nicked an early goal and got back into the game - but guess what, we didnt..... because the manager chose not to.... so I have to blame him, sorry.

We've had 4 poor defensive programs in a row (at home) though. If it was isolated games I would agree Sippo, but we are just shockingly fragile.

Malpas is an international defender, he clearly knows this side of the game well. So he is either trying to get players to do things they can't do, or he isn't getting the point accross at all.

I guess it could be argued it could be down to collective lack of confidence, but how do you get that back?

Obviously not as i listened to the radio

You can blame the manager for being very poor defensively, it's down to him to sort it out and he has failed to do so, he has had plenty of time to rectify the situation but has failed miserably so the blame has to be pointed at him.

Confidence is obviously a key factor. Its down to the manager to re-install that.

Or maybe its just that the players we've got just aren't good enough.

Trouble is Sippo whilst this manager in charge i dont think confidence would be restored, if the rumours about him having lost the dressing room are true. He needs to go, and now imo.

Agree about some of the players though Amankwaah sounded like he had a shocker.

He started ok Tans...but as soon as Coxy missed that pen you could see the stess come back into all them.

as it did into all us fans aswell!

Thats bollocks arch

They're all shit bar Cox and Peacock.

I dont use the word as a norm, but clueless cunt is definitely the right description of this twat. We are in serious shit right now, Fitton cant wait another two or three games, he must act now.

What is? The fact I got stressed when Cox missed the penalty? Didnt you?

No not really arch.

Christ, theres obviously something wrong with me then, I almost ripped my seat up and chucked it on the pitch.

It wouldve been good entertainment I suppose...

I've kind of got used to Swindon missing penalties and giving away 3 goal leads and losing to teams with 10 men.

god its all so nightmarish.... what can happen next week? Errrmmmm.. Goalkeeper sent off without one on the bench, Amankwaah in goal?

where was peacock first half when our defence was exposed time and again?
no fucking good looking like you are busting a gut when the game is over.
he was shit first half like all his midfield colleagues.probably the pick of the 4 just, but thats because they were terrible.
he gives his all, but that aint enough as it stands.

And that can all happen in one season before mid-October.

MALPAS OUT NOW.

I missed the 1st game of the season due to a wedding and we won. I've been to every one since and we've lost.

Maybe i've cursed the team?

You have,
Probably, I would say its me but i havent been often enough.

Im proud to say theyve won all the away games ive been to watch though :)

Haha same here!! :D  I missed the Tranny game as was away, and due to bein an ST holder, i've been to every game since, and we've lost :(
PHIL!!!! OUT!!

ALL OUT ... Maybe then Malpas will get sacked.

we look good till the penalty miss.

crowd were good today and tried to support the team but just for DRS sake

fuck sake, its all your fault stupid fucking crowd etc etc

At two nil, the support was better than the last two home games, at 3-0 speechless, bit like the manager.

fuck off, peacocks a cunt and there's loads of people who cant fucking see it. yes he tries, but he's a FUCKING CARTHORSE, he's totally devoid of ability... in his career he's played in every position you can imagine, why?, cos he ain't good enough anywhere? the boots, the hair, the tatoo's make it cringeworthy, he's a cunt i hate him.

people need to remember when he scored at the CG for city, he fucking gave it the big i am, does the bloke love the club... does he fuck? peacock's the worst of the worst and the fact he's pulled the wool over so many of your eyes is unbelievable.

rant over. captain my cunting arse.

we never looked good and should have 3-0 nil down by the time the pen was missed.

Arriba I didn't rate Huddersfield, we also had some very good chances before the penalty, we were worse against Colchester and Millwall.

Peacock may bust a gut, work his socks off etc etc...but FFS he's nowhere near good enough for this league, players like him won't get us where we want to be.

dave go and get a shag 8)

after we got outplayed by colchester i put it down to them being decent(i was wrong)
i didn't see millwall,but we were dreadfull today.cadamarteri looked like pele in the first half because smith was so poor

Fucking hell we mustve been shit if they made Cadamarteri look good.

What sort of argument 'is he doesn't give a shit because he celebrated a goal he scored against us before he was a STFC player' ?  ;D

He's not the best player on the pitch but at least the effort is there, and that's all I want, which is not the case for some of our more talented players.

Now go forth into the night and break something!

off out at 9 mate... have had 2 jugs of stella since 3.45 so feelin boozed already... maybe that contributed to my peacock vitriol, he's still a twat though

Never said he doesn't give a shit, I'm sure he does because he tries. However, all the mugs that think he "loves" the club are miles off.

peacock is overated and was totally ineffective today.

I think he loves playing for the club... Whether that involves the fans et al I don't know.

However, I agree about his hair and tattoos.

Peacock is the only player we have who puts it about Nallis, Timlin and Easton have been fairies thus far. He wasn't that effective today but was still the best of a bad bunch.

All he can do is give 100% if selected. You can't ask more than that.

Im beginning to think even Pook might be an option.

Fuck me i never ever thought id say that.

Today, Peacock was shit but tried, which to me is slightly better than just being shit.

If Nalis goes any slower he'll start going backwards.

i dont know if this is a reflection on the whole situation but I forgot we were playing and I'm a season ticket holder.

ace

 :D

I wish I could have a rant but in a perverse kind of way today was actually quite funny as we were so bad I couldn't believe my eyes at time.  I'm sure I feel angry soon but at the moment I just don't feel too fussed which is a bit weird :S

I just want to go to away games from now on. fuck the CG.

Sadly (!) I was stuck in Cornwall today and missed the game.  Can I assume that I missed sweet sod all!!

you missed a blinding match. if you're a huddersfield fan.

my daughter and mrs went on a bike ride whilst myself and son went to the game.considering the great weather today i made the wrong choice.

I was sat right next to them, it wasn't nice. They seemed to be having a great day out, in the sunshine whilst i was sat in the shade - depressed (and behind a post)

Paul Jewell was in the exec box the other side of me too, he looked proper bored.

he's not there to enjoy himself.will probably take cox or morrison

I didn't go today, went to England game instead - couldn't even be bothered to check the score until sat on the train home.  Haven't felt so non bothered about Swindon for a very long time.

or perhaps he was watching Liam Dickinson what with him being a Derby player and all....

possibly.which one was he? my sight aint the best to see names on shirts i'm afraid.

he was the guy upfront. Scored the first goal.

Derby signed him front Stockport in the summer then loaned him out to Huddersfield.

the one who went off injured? he ran our boys ragged as did the other lad with the crew cut.actually as did all of em

Ive never been an "out" kinda guy.Ive supported them all till the bitter end.Kingy,Iffy,Quinny..

I think im an outy now,im just not sure how to go about it.

so have i yeovil.malpas is an all time low.his interview today is a joke.

We been through worse stuff over the last ten years. I find it funny people giving up now and not watching games.

get a grip.

Just out of curiousity, when was the last time we lost 5 home games on the trot?

Whilst I am moving towards not wanting Malpas as our manager. I think lowest of all time is going a bit far....

Really? And why the fuck is that? I've been to a lot of games over the last 10 years and i can tell you now i know when the fuck we are going to go down because we are shite! We were fucking clueless today yet to tell us all to get a fucking grip?

I was suprised today,I thought the ground would be a sea of negativity but it wasnt so there is no excuse.I fell asleep for 10 minutes though  :D

we have money but are going backwards dv.a club with fuck all money fighting for their life is better than stfc today.

2000

Its not though is it?

The thing that annoys me the most is that the play staff is give or take one or two is the same as last year. Why have they become so bad?

I said 15 games for Malpas but today I was expecting an improvement after the last two results and the fans were much more supportive today.

I think only 3 straight wins will save him now.

he has to go now dv

MM was definitely the cheap option when appointed imo.

As much as I admire Fitton for saving our club, i do feel that perhaps he doesnt know much about football!

The crowd were well up for it from the off today and the sun was blazing like fuck, making ideal conditions for a home match in anyones language. No reason then for the players to revert back to shitting themselves like frightened fucking virgins trapped in a lift with Fred West!

As sorry as I feel for Maurice Malpas on a human level - it's fucking shit for anyone to lose their job in these uncertain times - I do think that he's had a fair crack at getting us going since Fitton first appointed him but he has continually failed to impress. Talk is cheap. Post match interviews are full of positive shit if you've won, and totally the opposite if you've lost. It's all bullshit when compared and contrasted against real results. You're either doing the business or you're a cunt. Simple in any walk of life.

I think Fitton will have a couple of sleepless nights off the back of today's non event, then he'll take stock and acknowledge that for whatever reason he got his first major appointment wrong. I'll ignore the shit in the press about him backing Malpas or anyone else. He knows that arses on seats and commercial income will ultimately make or break his revival plans for Swindon. I reckon that anything or anyone that gets in the way of that will be jetisoned rapidly - including Malpas.

Fitton wont want to lose face publicly though, so Malpas could be retained 'upstairs'. Fucking interesting week ahead ;)

 

It won't be interesting. It'll just be the same old shit that we have got used to over the past month or so. Fitton backing MM etc. 

Ha, well that's one mystery solved. deltaincline is unmasked - now the next mystery hard upon it, why the fuck is Joe Kinnear posting on TEF?

All talk and no results............i wouldnt mind going down with all guns blazing but this is shit. :doh:

Flash

we lsot because the fans clearly didn't get behidn the team.

it's so obvious i could tell from my armchair.

I'm glad you gave us a little spoiler tonight. It would have been difficult to find tomorrow in with all the Malpas out, P.Smith is shit, Brez is better, Jack Smith isnt a left back, Kevin Amankwaah is rubbish, Ifil is stupid, Aljofree is usless, JPM is a waste of space, Nalis is slow, Timlin cant pass, Easton was well of the pace, McNamee didnt touch the ball, start Marshall, Paynter is a donkey, Cox is too arrogant, Malpas got the tactics wrong, what does adie williams actually do, byrne moves his arms too much, Malpas out, why didnt Corr play, Peacock is past it, hurry back Kanyuka, when is Vincent fit, Bring Back Parkin, not paying my second installment, Ian Holloway would be better, I'm never going again, no fight threads.....

You missed out the John Granville bashing

Reg out!

Maybe people have to be a bit careful where they spend their cash in these uncertain times?  Spending that money to then feel like crap for the rest of the evening is not exactly common sense...

I've already bought the 2nd half of my season ticket but I'm finding it increasingly hard to find the motivation to go.

I certainly won't be attending the night match against Northampton.

Didn't post about the game last night as I was pretty pissed when I got in and also pissed off still.

I've been a staunch supporter of Malpas, I really wanted him to be successful as that would also mean the club was successful.

It's now clear, for whatever reason, that he can't get the best out of the players and for that reason alone he needs to go (As do the rest of the backroom staff).

I still won't boo the bloke though and will still attend the games........

I did boo at fulltime yesterday. Just do not understand the tactics and again only 2 up front and 2 subs used

 That was DV's work, I said I was copying and ruling through the non applicable bits for the rest of the season.....you're right though G-G-Granville out should be on there as well.

I'm backing Malpas. King In.

 For what it's worth, King went after 10 games in 05/06, having taken 7 points from the 1st 10 games...for King there were extenuating circumstances of having lost a number of players and then replacing them with loans.

 Like MM, King had missed out on a few midfield players because of budget, so ended up with Gareth Whalley, who was well past it.  MM ended up with Nalis, who at least has something to offer and isn't on a three year contract.

 In the case of King, it would have been better to stick, as it was obvious the replacement would be Reeeves or Iffy, which only increased the likelihood of relegation.

 We can only assume if MM goes this week, that a proper replacement will be brought in. By my calcs it will cost something in the region of half a mill for a staff replacement job...we know AF has said he wont throw money at this, so it is entirely possible we'll get Byrne/Williams back in.  Can they keep us up? 

If it's a case of Malpas, or Byrne and Williams, it isn't much of a choice.

A clean sweep is what's needed imo, get someone in with his own team who can get the players doing what they're fucking paid to do.

How long is MM's contract?

Lifetime......

 Everyone assumes that AF will put his hand in the Board's pocket, pull out half a mill and hey presto shiny new management team. There's no evidence of this in fact quite the opposite, we were told at the interview stage at least one priced themselves out and another didn't get the job becaus ehe wanted his own team.

 So what has changed...other than we're now in a relegation dog fight.

Don't disagree with what you've said Reg, just gave my opinion!

I know Fitton wants the club to be run along business lines, but he needs to speculate a bit first.
Williams and Byrne are hardly going to be seen as a dream ticket are they?

Fatbury was at the game with a bird!!

Go on my son!!

Oh and did I read on this forum that somebody on here thought Brezovan is the best keeper in the league? From what I have seen he is absoulute dogshit for this level. The guy's decision making are hopeless and for a big powerful guy, why the hell does he always scoop his clearance kicks miles up in the air and straight to the opposition? When Glennon was kicking, his kicks had a much lower trajectory and were much more dangerous.

Hertab

 No, but if you look at something like Reading as an example, which I'm sure AF has, Madejski also stated he wouldn't throw money at it.  When his dour Scottish manager McGee, upped and left in 94/95....Madejski appointed Jimmy Quinn and Mick Gooding, both players as joint managers...damn near made the Prem.

 Incidentally Adi Williams played in that Reading side....as did Adi Viveash, when he was injured.

The coaching this season must be diabolical. I cant see any other reason for us to have gotten in such a mess.

There are loads of awful teams this season. We might just stay up because the standard is so low?

Any chance of a resignation Mo? Then weve only got to pay off Byrne, Williams and Granville.

Fittons got a lot of thinking to do.

For whats it worth, I think we need a strong hand to steady the ship. Anything else would be gambling with our League 1 status.

I think it would take him as long, there done.

 You're right Spence....if he is to stick with MM, then we need to get a couple of players in on loan...I'd suggest a goalkeeper as priority, and  a central midfielder, watching Carlisle yesterday they had Graham Kavanagh, who'd been rotting away in Sunderland reserves.

 He's the sort of thing we need....it wont get better by doing nothing though.

 Was it Toni?

I have refrained from jumping on the "sack malpas" bandwagon for too long

I upped and left at 4.30 yesterday, disgusted at what I was being forced to endure

In all my 34 years of watching the Town, I have witnessed my fair share of bad teams being led by clueless managers, but I have to admit this current regime tops them all I am afraid.

The turning point for me came when I looked across at him at 3-0 down and he was just laid against the dugout with out what looked like a care in the world.

I expected him to be out in the technical area trying to spur the players on at least, but nothing. Nada. Zilch. Fuck all !

I am afraid mate your tenure has come to an end.

Get the fuck out of my club and take Byrne and Williams with you

Just fuck off

End

My feelings enitrely :nod:

That's what I thought. Why was nothing be rallied to the players on the pitch? We had none of our management team on the touchline. Malpas arms seemed to be super-glued to the dugout roof.

If the alternative is Byrne and Williams then we may aswell stick with MM. I ended up having an argument with the people next to me yesterday as they thought Byrne & Williams should get the job as they 'did well' last time. They are part of the current coaching set-up and therefore obviously do as shit a job as Malpas is. The whole lot just need to fuck off and if they had any self respect they would do, unfortunately they know their unlikely to get a similar job anywhere else so will just stick around and continue to fuck us up.

As you say Glos there is no point in getting rid of MM and sticking with these two.  Sweeping changes should be made if AF does give MM the flick.

She didn't look like Ian Holloway did she? That might clear a few things up

i think the coaching staff are more of a problem than malpas to be honest. the tactics have generally been sensible and i can see what he's trying to achieve by employing those formations but the players aren't able to perform at a significant level, which suggests to me that the coaching is piss poor

Agree Sonic, it's the whole coaching set up, including MM tho, as he is respsonsible for that.

 As I've pointed out elsewhere, to get rid of the lot and bring in a whole new team will cost appprox half a mil, now clearly the club can't afford that, so it would have to be paid fro out of the pocket of the Board members.  They may want to do that I've no idea, but equally they may not fancy it, and prefer a cheaper alternative,

 Again as pointed out elsewhere in his early days, Madejski on losing his dour Scot, McGee, appointed joint player managers...Quinn and Gooding, had it not been a strange season with only 2 up, they would have got automatic to the Prem.

 There would be a cost to paying off MM....but nothing as expensive as a new broom.

 Byrne/williams could then be supplemented by upgrading Bodin and maybe bringing someone like Nalis into the coaching set up.

Fuck that Reg, why would getting rid of MM and promoting all the current coaching staff change things for the better?

I appreciate what you're saying about the financial side of things but, jeez your idea there is not the answer.

i would be quite alarmed if fitton wasn't prepared to wield the broom at a hefty cost for the improvement of this football team. if he wants to run this club as a business, he needs to stop it from failing first.

 I'm not suggesting it is the answer, merely that pragmatic businessmen, and I used Madejski as an example, may not want to shoulder the cost themselves, and so seek a viable alternative. 

 If you fall out of the Prem, then clearly there is a cost, if you fall out of L1, it may not outweigh the cost of wholesale change and therefore from a business point of view might not matter so much.

 Don't forget our present Board live in the real world.

 If he wants to run it as a business, he must ensure outgoings as far as possible don't excede incomings.

  Clearly replacing a whole management team is a significant cost...

In what way is Malpas is responsible for the whole coaching setup? He was given the job on the understanding that he worked with the existing coaching setup.

My feeling is that I've seen little wrong with Malpas's tactics or use of players, but if Fitton has faith in his ability and wants to keep him, he's got to support him by employing a serious defensive coach with a track record.

Why is Brez is better crossed out.

Thought he was pretty pants yesterday and got caught in no mans land twice.

Because the coaches are working under MM's management, we all well aware of the circumstances surrounding MM's appointment.  The buck stops with the manager and all that (and the chairman for that matter).

 It's crossed out cos Brez isn't better innit.

fair enough.

I know you weren't happy at half time. :)

 :nod: :nod:  Well Said

Another thing that pisses me off, is this idea of putting everyone in the box when defending corners.
FFS leave one or two men up, if you do that the opposition have to leave men back to mark them.

Malpas appears to have the tactical nous of a Murray Mint (perhaps that's what the MM on his kit really stands for)

End of the day, it was Fitton who wanted this set up and sometimes you have to back up your own decisions and take responsibility for your own mistakes.

Besides, they didnt spend a lot on the management when they came in? The facts speak for themselves, when we have brought in big names we have got big wonga back in compensation, Todd (snigger), Wise, Sturrock. When weve had lower key managers weve ended having to pay them off, King, Iffy, Malpas. There seems to be more money in manager moves than players at our level.

We need someone who will come in, give us some top class coaching with their own team and generally turn the place upside down. Were in so much trouble that I think even someone like Calderwood or Ling would be too much of a risk. We need someone who's been there, seen it done it.

Its a slippery slope that League 2 Reg, look how long it took Rovers to get out of it? And they had been top of the old div 2 the season before they were relegated. League 2 gets worse ever year as well.

At least the players will have plenty of humility for whoever comes in now they look totally destroyed and need rescuing (except for Cox that is).

Even with the entire 11 in the box we seem to somehow allow the opposition space on the edge of the area. Must have conceeded 2 or 3 times from that.

Sturrock deployed the same system and it used to wind me up then as well.

Since the Tranmere game, every match has been like 'Groundhog Day' - a re-run of the previous game. I just don't get it - where does the problem lie?  Walking away after the Tranmere game I'd have been pressed to find a Swindon player who hadn't played well.  Since then I'd have been stumped to find one who had played even competently.

Like every other poster, I just cannot figure out what's wrong. Is it a collective loss of form or confidence, poor coaching, lack of individual skill or commitment amongst the playing staff - I just don't know!  The crowds have held up pretty well and have been fairly positive & even the chants of 'Malpas out' didn't start until quite late in the game yesterday. However one thing I do know & that is this cannot continue for much longer.  Changes are needed, either in approach or attitude or personnel and I'm normally amongst the glass half full brigade!

Every other poster bar one - lardy knows what the problem is. No drums. And everyone just mocks him

I stand corrected. Umm, just how much does a drum cost?

I have been in the undecided stage for a while, but after that performance then I know think change is inevitable and it has to happen sooner rather than later, we do not have the players for a fight, get caught in a relegation battle and we are screwed.

Malpas has to go now I'm afraid, nice guy that he is something is not right and the buck stops with the manager, a new manager needs to be brought and be given the opportunity to bring in his own backroom staff if he wants to.

This cannot continue if the manager cannot get out of the players the ability they have then give someone else a go.

 And where does the money come from for this?

Out of the pockets of our filthy rich owners. They'll lose more in the long term if they don't shell out now.

Exactly, they bought Cox for £300k and at the moment they would be lucky to get their money back. They wont have the control if a bid comes in, Cox's agent will engineer a move, then he will make mega wonga for someone else. We should be looking at him as a million pound player. Same with McNamee, scouts were watching from everywhere at the start of the season, theyd have to watch a reserve game now. All because our defence is not up to it.

They had a gamble on the shoestring route, its not working and its going to cost them more if they dont appoint some professionals.

Reg, I guess that there is going to be some serious questioning going on over the next few days.  To replace the manager will cost but won't continuing with a failing team, falling attendances & a real threat of relegation to League 2 also have detrimental effect on the clubs finances?

I would still hope that the current management can effect a change in performance but with a run of home results like we're having, something has got to give surely?

I think with the current crop league two is a distinct possibility - I actually do think we are that bad at the moment and can't see it getting any better.

if fitton is the super prepared man who knows his stuff.then surely he would have realised he may have to fork out compo etc if things dont go to plan on the pitch.
money for the right man is good enough and might be needed. but not for someone like ling.
if fitton doesn't act then stfc will lose a couple of thousand season ticket holders next year for starters

 And you have some evidence of their readiness to do this? They had an opportunity, what 9/10 months ago and preferred a cheapish option.

Unfortunetly it is football these things happen  - you have to speculate to accumalate, it has not worked so the club has to agree a pay off, and that includes staff if the new man does not want them I'm sure Cox will be gone come Jan if he keepes scoring like he is so that will pay it back !

The alternative is to say we can't afford to sack him let him destroy any remaining confidence that is left.

Fitton has a 5 year plan, I'm sure that plan does not include relegation - that will cost and set the club back years.

 Fitton said he wants CCC after three years....the alternative as outlined before, for AF, maybe to sack Malpas and use staff already on the pay roll.

If he doesnt make changes soon then CCC in 3 years is a totally unrealistic ambition.

3 5 10 yr plans fuck that we need a 3 month plan

Does anyone think Fitton might cut his losses and sell up if things keep going badly? I'm not expecting him to but you never know.

Doubt it i would like to think he would hold his hands up and say he got it wrong

But Reg, it's what I want to see. I don't need evidence for my opinion.

If Fitton only wants cheap options he's going to have to change his mind.

reg, are you being serious or playing devil's advocate here?

as a businessman he is not going to continue to back someone who is failing his business.

 My point is SY, that everyone just assumes AF, will wave a wand and magic in a new sexy management team, whilst providing MM, Byrne and Williams with plenty of time to practise their golf swings.

 My reading of the admittedly thinnish evidence, is that such an outcome is less likely than something more pragmatic and less expensive, like returning to Byrne/Williams, or even Byrne/Williams going and MM being able to get in his own Barry Hunter.

How do we know they went for Malpas because he was the cheap option? I was under the impression he impressed Fitton and fitted in with the plan and that's why he was appointed.

 At the time we interviewed MM. Lingy, Micky Adams and Dave Hockaday, Fitton stated that at least one wanted too much money.

I was under the impression that he meant transfer Fee's, not the managers salary.

I may be wrong though.

 Either way, it gives us a bit of insight into AF's thinking only 10 months ago.

 Of the candidates...Lingy is below us in the table...Adams' Brighton haven't won at all at home, and managed to lose a game to 9 man Walsall.  Dave Hockaday is to be seen looking perplexed alongside Jan Poortvliet at Soton, who have a side of kids + Chris Perry aand Paul Wotton.

if fitton was trying to do it on the cheap, then he will have learned it was the wrong move.
why clear all debt then try to build a team on fuck all?doesn't make sense to me.
personally i dont think he saw malpas as the cheap option.

Pay peanuts get monkeys

Clean sweep of al coaching setup needed..... Malpas has tunred us from a top 10 side into relegation fodder in 9 months

Cannot argue with that bart.

Perhaps Sturrock was good at getting the best out of average players, whereas Malpas isn't.   I'm losing interest in the whole STFC thing at the moment.  Need something to reignite my passion, cos at the minute I can't be arsed

 It's not really on the cheap though is it...the heavy cost was in acquiring the debt laden club, and sorting out matters like the CVA.

 You then have a budget to work to, which in our case is hopefully within our means. It's a cheap option insofar as in the loony world of football, it's not silly money.

I can see the point in sitting tight, waiting for other clubs to go tits up. The money is comming out of football, its more of a poisoned chalice.

But we cannot go down.

And its fucking boring waiting for the credit crunch to hit clubs other than West Ham.

 Watching the scum struggle for loosening the purse strings is quite funny though.

That was more a case though of someone who at interview gave the impression he wanted to spend his way out of the division which Fitton has repeatedly and rightly said is not the way he wants to do it. Which doesn't mean money isn't there for quality signings that will provide a decent ROI (Cox, Macca) just that he's not prepared to go down the route that started us on the road to perdition in the first place. Rather he wanted someone who was prepared to work with what we've got, bring in a few quality additions, and bring through the youth players. Clearly Malpas was the one who at interview best fit that bill. It's not so much "the cheap option" as the "patiently building a sustainable success option". Whether he's changed his mind on either the strategy or his choice of candidate to implement it, I suspect we'll discover in the next few weeks

Well Adams is doing an ok job at Brighton...and hasnt spent big after all they beat Man City who have!
For me the bit that is annoying is that MM being a top Quality defender,shouts out that we would be solid at the back,alas no.
Hindsight is easy but a proven no nonsence manager would have been a good option.

Brighton fans were calling for Adams to be sacked after they lost to Walsall

Stupid fans

please dont let us go down......i cant face that divvy 2 again.....

The thing that winds me up the most is that Malpas constantly says in his press conferences -

"that same eleven won't start next week after a perfomance like that"
"I'll have to look at the loan market to bring in some fresh faces to shake things up"

Well he doesnt bring in any 'fresh faces', the same eleven more or less start the following week and the results and performances stay the same.

All the while Cheltenham pick up players left right and centre in the loan market, Northampton bring in a couple of players, one of which, Karl Hawley, is scoring for fun. Hartlepool brought in another midfielder this week, as did Carlisle. Tranmere got yet another Liverpool youngster in and Oldham have signed up another two.

Why don't we? Is MM happy with his players, but just tells us differently? Or is it that he can't attract the players here?? The Scott Murray thing is a case in point, we tried to get him but he said he'd rather stay at City, suddenly a few weeks later he simply cannot wait to get up the M5 to join non-league-esque Cheltenham.

I know this has all been said many,many times, but I've blimin' angry - we are sinking fast and need a change NOW.

IMO sack Malpas and bring in Holloway in time for the Leicester game, in true ex-manager-returns-to-haunt-previous-club style, we're bound to win that one.....

Yeah - i hate those Leicester bxxxds!

Haha blimin angry

I blimin' well am.......still, I thought I'd have blimin' well calmed down by now.   :D

 Have you considered that MM isn't allowed to bring in any players by the Board, just a thought.

Yeah I have and it could well be true - and that depresses me even more.

Pretty sure I read back at the start of the season that Malpas didn't ask for as much budget as Fitton thought he would have.

Just been swotting up on Malpas's managerial career on soccerbase.com -

Motherwell     18/5/06 - 1/6/07     44 Games     14 Won     22 Lost     8 Drawn
Swindon        15/1/08 - Present    36 Games     11 Won     15 Lost    10 Drawn

Eerily, with 8 games played the difference between the two managerial jobs, he could well end up with a worse record that he had at Motherwell.

Not sure what I'm trying to show or say here, but wow, a worse record than he had at Motherwell......yawn...          

that's an awful record.

I've just trawled through all 11 pages and for me Malpas has to go simply because he's lost the confidence and respect of the fans.  When Wise and Sturrock were appointed an air of optimism hung over the CG and this was transmitted onto the pitch, and I would love to see another manager instated with a similar reputation.  I thought on Tuesday night we looked like a good side.  Timlin in particular impressed me which seems to be in stark contrast to what some people are saying on here!

However, where to be people expect to be?  Is this team as good as we think it is?  Yes Cox is decent when he's interested, and McNamee's an exciting player, but who else in the team is a top quality player remotely capable of cutting it in the Championship?

morrison will be

 :soapy tit wank:I saw that. I was going to throw something at you but thought you might react negatively thinking one of the 'udders had thrown it at you......

I think Saturday's game was a watershed for Malpas. Had we won I might have thought differently, because it would have shown we might have turned a corner, or at least been able to stop the rot. Yet we're making the same errors week in, week out and there's no sign that things will get better, defensively at least. Some players are getting worse!

I think it's time. Still, booing still sucks. Have a moan afterwards by all means, but not during the game.

The best thing about the game was the candyfloss I nagged my boyfriend to buy me outside the ground

Im now offically "on a break" from STFC

Did you have a go at the punchbag as well, what was that all about?

Im not sure - some kind of circus theme going on outside??

That continued onto the pitch.

Obvious, but it had to be said!

I thought that the minute I posted it

I knows he's only young and all... but he's been part of the most shambolic defensive team we've had for a while... he's still got to improve miles to maintain a lace in our team.

He's been one of the better parts though, and unless we get two new centre halves in who are head and shoulders above what we currently have, he's staked his claim for a place against Jerel and Hasney

he's the only one of our defenders not to have cost us a goal yet, am i correct?

Bit like this thread - people going for the juggler

No - Cheltenham second goal.

darn.

The more i read and listen to the players interviews the more i am left baffled the whole lot of them appear to talk shit.

I've watched the goals again from saturday and Morrison was dead on his feet for the 1st.
No anticipation and let Dickinson,who he was marking at the corner,get accross him.

Right i am going to stop reading what they say, the following from Easton

We don't give our chance to say right, we'll go 1-0 up for a change and then do what we do'.

"Unfortunately it's the other way about and we have to chase it a wee bit."


Lets forget Hartlepool shall we

Morrison is our brightest prospect by miles course at his age hes going to make mistakes...we shouldnt have conceded that corner in the first place if i remember right....if he stays fit Morrison should be in and learning....and its the hard way at present.

Unfortunate circumstances that warrant Morrison having to play on a regular basis.Normally a young
player plays a few games here and there,before becoming a regular.

Almost every time i've seen the Town in a lower division relegation battle,we've had to play some
youngsters,i fear that history is repeating itself.

So Alan you would only have a youngster playing occasionly?...however are you going to find out if hes got what it takes,play him in the odd match,and when he makes a mistake bomb him out.
For me take Cox out of the equation and he would be the player whos done ok for us.
Not having ago Alan why have a youth set up if you dont give the better ones a chance.IMO the a few others must wonder what they have to do to get a chance the way we are playing at present.

Leefer,i didn't say he shouldn't be playing,i said that unfortunate circumstances were dictating this.

In an ideal situation you'd blood him giving him a few games here and there,before he held his own

on a regular basis.

Fair enough Alan,a few mates think as you do and reckon he shouldnt be playing at present....but theres never an ideal moment at Swindon as we both know.

But leaving him in this shambolic defence may be counter productive to his confidence, and god knows what would happen if the crowd turn on him (they shouldn't but you never know). He may dissapear without trace.

I know removing him now may dent his confidence, but it may be best long run. Let Aljofree get the stick, ease him in when the good times come.

I think he deserves his chance to be a regular choice.

I also agree with you, if he continues to play in a losing shambles of a defence it might have lasting effect on his confidence.

Its a tough call....he could lose all confidence if he is dropped without being any worse or better than our other defenders,i would play him every match but know others feel differently and would go for experience.

Don't think that will matter the reserves are shipping in goals for fun aswell

I think it's a standard clause in all players' contracts these days that they have to talk shit/spout platitudes to the press. I imagine the PFA insist on it.

That's very sad Luci

I think we should all put Saturday to bed. Yes it was a gutless, piss-poor performance that would embarrass a under 7's kids team, but we can learn from it. Where we're going wrong is we're not scoring more goals than the opposition and the goals they're scoring are usually down to one of us making an uncharacteristic mistake. Most of us are making uncharacteristic mistakes every week now and it's someting we need to erase from our game. We won't be pointing the finger at anyone though, as if we do that we'll draw attention to ourselves and, let's face it, we've dropped a bollock or two as well. The fans are great, but we sometimes get a bit scared because sometimes they boo when we don't play well.
At the end of the day it's down to us, the players, to turn this around. We're confident we can.
People say you learn from your mistakes, well we must be dead clever by now, cos we've made loads of mistakes!

Article appearing in Adver tomorrow from 'A Player'.

I have seen tomorow's edition and i am afraid you are wrong Steve, its about Peacock blaming himself for all 3 goals as he had chicken on friday night not the usual Salmon.

Ah yes the "uncharacteristic errors" that are so characteristic of our performances

What we learnt from Saturday is we should boo and chant malpas out all game, because clearly supporting the players makes fuck all difference.

It's so fucking painful at the moment.  Thankfully I didn't go, but listened to the radio, the whole thing just sounded limp.  No-one to get things going, spur the team on.  I'd love Malpas to be a success, but just can't see it.  So many people have now turned against him, I can't see how he can bring it back.  Fuck knows.  Strangely I don't feel as bad as I did when McMahon or King was manager...that I can't explain as we are as bad as we were then, maybe I've lost some passion after fighting Diamond Mike and his lot...maybe this just should've been better under Fitton.  I don't know what to think...I really don't.

One thing I do know...Holloway is not the fucking answer...unless you want him to take us into a division we've never been in before (as he did at Leicester).

I am weirdly enjoying Malpas' ability to wind-up many fans by refusing to walk.

For the record, I'm still sat on the fence but I lean towards Malpas... What can I say? I like the underdog :D

McMahon>King>Malpas?

Why do you think we should keep him, out of interest?

He won't walk now because he's currently on track to match or 'better' his appalling efforts at Motherwell, therefore he knows that if he walked from here he won't ever get another job on the back of such piss-poor records. A bit like what happened to mindless ranting Andy '3 games in charge of Grays Athletic' King.

I think we should rise above it, say we are not bothered, and then see who blinks first, Fitton or the fans?

The defence is shocking at times....BUT....do you think that the midfield cannot hold poccession and the defenders are under constant attack......reminds me of our Premier league days!

ill have my little rant now:

Malpas said he will sign players who are better than what we already have, he bombed off John Hills saying hes no better than Vincent, then signs Yinka who Malpas believes is better than Vincent, so Vincent is injured so surely Yinka will be playing, but no he plays our second choice right back ahead of our so called 1st choice left back???
we have a midfield 4 full of centre midfielders, neither Easton or Timlin can beat a man and it was embarrasing seeing Easton trying to get round a defender saturday.

Hmmm - having to back up an opinion.

Firstly, I'd like to add that I'm not a huge follower of Maurice Malpas. I am not blinded, far from it.

However, I'm still willing to give him my support because the man who I respect the most, Andrew Fitton, believes that sacking him is not the right option just yet.

I've seen glimpses of us playing football that I haven't seen since Glenn Hoddle. It's just that defence. I am elated with our strikeforce and think the midfield is more than adequate. It's shit defending that's losing us these games (exception against Huddersfield perhaps).

I think, nowadays, we're a bit spoiled. For now this is all hysteria, yes people have been sacked for much, much less but that doesn't mean we should sack him.

I guess to conclude, I have to say we need to look beyond matchdays.

We've had more setbacks than successes in my time supporting Swindon. I remember sat by the radio waiting to see if we'd gone out of business. I read that the F.A. have more-or-less ruined Luton Town and pegged Rotherham and Bournemouth back a year or two. I look at our situation and think "it's been a awful month or two" - in the grand scheme of things I'd rather be in our "mess" now that what it could have been and what others have experienced.

Apologies for the late reply - I'm reading about post-emancipation in the Caribbean. Lovely.

On that Fitton note, as much as he obviously good at doing business and that, i can't have any faith in him football-wise until he proves he knows what he is doing. This Malpas debacle will be what i have to go on, and if we continue to lose points and perform badly without Fitton stepping in and saving us from a dogfight, i'm afraid my opinon of his football nouse will be not so favourable.

Going out and paying big money for Macnamee and Cox suggests to me that he knows what he's doing.

I admire his support for the manager, and his refusal to push thisisstfc's panic button just yet.

All I want is a football team to support and Fitton provides that. If we lose Fitton & co we could lose our football club and it's something I'm not prepared to risk. I also agree with Michael's comments above.

At the moment we're drifting into a relegation battle... But we're also 2 or 3 wins from being out of the equation. Do well in the JPT/FA Cup and a mid-table finish would result in a good season for me.

I probably wouldn't follow football if it was always rosey - or I'd follow a Premiership team where their problems involve drawing away in the Champions League ZZZZ.

I'm not stupid, I know trouble could be on the way and I know I'm a minority in giving Malpas a bit of time... But hey, I should've kept my opinions to myself.

I disagree with that. I don't think the midfield is functioning to help the defence out as often as it should.

Problem is, we have tried nearly ever combination available in both departments without joy. Not sure what is left to try.

Are we simply not good enough, or is confidence so erroded and formation so confused nobody knows what their job is and nobody will take responsibility? I don't know.

I know I said we should give Malpas time, but I'm close to pushing "the thisis panic button" right now. It's not the fact we have lost 4 league games on the bounce, its the manner of the defeats. If we don't get fired up soon a long relagation dogfight is coming.

Rightly or wrongly the players say the pressure at home is a bit too much, so what happens if we get involved in a relegation fight? If they couldnt handle it after the 4th home game i think we could be a bit fucked

That's fair enough. I've never bought into the confidence thing, I'd lean more towards the notion that we're not as good as we thought, if we ever thought that.

That was just the players being pussies and making an excuse for being gutless wasn't it?

I might blame 'confidence' for me being rubbish at 6-a-side every Tuesday night :)

does no one worry when malpas said 'I was booed as a player, booed as a coach and booed as a mangaer, i wont be forced out' no way will he resign cos he wants his contract paid up cos he knows he aint getting another decent job

which is what we would all do in his shoes anyway

But he was a relatively successful player, that's his point - He's knows the highs and lows.

Oh, and what DV said.

The majority will get their way eventually, it's just a matter of when.

Michael it was probably just an excuse just do not think that bodes well if we have a real battle soon.

Why? It's not like anyone's had a go at you.

You cunt!


 ;)

:) Quite.

OK, but we didnt have a massive turnover of players in the summer and only lost 1 good player who was a right back and was not responisble for holding our entire team together. A fit Vincent may have helped tighten things up a bit, but I refuse to believe that a mediocre but dependable player like vincent single handedly held our defence together last season.Some players who were good last season have been rubbish this season.

The issue may not have started as confidence, it may have been bad coaching or whatever, but currently our defence has zero confidence - they are making mistakes and constantly panicing

Its now impossible to agrue that Malpas is not responsible for taking the team backwards

Hey there guys!

Im a Motherwell fan, for those who don't know the team, it was the team that Mr Maurice Malpas last 'tried' to manage.

To be perfectly honest, I never looked out for Swindon results before but, after losing Malpish and seeing him go to you boys I always looked out when I could hoping he wouldn't do the same to use as he done to my beloved club.

Scanning over this thread in partcular seeing familar words I used only a year and a half ago was quite frightning!

To describe Malpas in a few words "dour", "boring", "useless" and not got a scooby-do on what hes doing..

His tactical knowledge was zilch, his substitutions were awful for the players he took off and put on at certain times through games completely baffled the 'Well support.

His interviews are hardly full of encouraging signs and don't really fill you with confidence about your team at all.

One reason why I do hate (such a strong word now, but what he done to my team and how he reacted after a certain game, thats the word I now feel for him) after losing to a lesser club than ourvelves a remarkable 4-1 he came out and said after the match "Thats your Donald Duck" laughing his little heart out.

The man never had a clue with Motherwell, even less with his no.2 Paul Hegarty I wished for your guys sake that he'd find a brain with some tactial knowledge and do well for you guys but, seems not to be the case!

Reason I decided to search for a Swidom forum because theres always a Malpas thread lurking about on the Motherwell FC forum I post on and rumour has it that Malpas is reluctant to resign from the job exactly like he did for Motherwell, just so he can grab some money because again, this time surely, he won't find himself in another managerial job!

I do hope, sincerely hope he buggers off and you guys can start from new with a better manager than Malpish!


Good Luck on getting rid of him! You'll feel the benefits shortly after you do..

For Motherwell after getting right of Maurice we got Mark McGhee who lead us to Europe for the first time in 13 years!

Hope a similar outcome happens for you, even a nice little Cup run!

Best of luck!

Robyn.
 

are you male or female?

welcome to the forum

I doubt if we got rid of malpas we'd end up in europe next season. Thanks though

No more Austrian training camp :(

Probably not worded the best but, yeah, I was getting more at the Cup run than Europe!  :P

And, a wee spelling lesson is needed 'Robyn' is female and 'Robin' is male!

So, I am indeed, female..  :)

what does thats your donald duck mean??

Luck i assumed? Like sweaty rhyimg slang

In the real world, it seems nothing..

In Maurices terms - it means "I couldn't give a fuck, Im only here to get a wage and the team does what it does, I DO NOTHING!".

Basically saying we had no luck and that was his interview!

:doh:

Scot's girls have sexy sexy accents.

Hello Robyn.

 Robyn...is there any reason why Motherwell fans wouldn't have taken to Maureece, other than football....Swindon fans for example wouldn't take an ex O*ford player as a manager.

 We know that there are certain ancient animosities at work in Scottish football.

A few more questions:

How was his appointement recieved at the 'well?

How long did it take for the fans to get on his / the teams back

Did a large number of your decent players become shit under MM, and subsequently get better when he left?

I cant be arsed to look it up, but did you conceed 3 goals a game?  (we've not kept a clean sheet yet this season. )

First of all, Hello there!  :-[

Second of all, theres no "ancient animosities" with Malpish! We took a dislike to him because he is not a football manager, he doesn't have the brain to be one or tactial knowledge to try and act like one!

At one point 2 seasons ago we were 16 points clear of relegation in the SPL to then rely on another team to score a late late goal for us to seal our SPL status after slipping up a 2-nil lead at home to lose 3-2.

The man doesn't know what hes doing, hope yous get rid soon!



And to answer the further few questions..

His appointment wasn't a surprise for the 'Well fans because we always appoint our no.2 after we lose a manager (Terry Butcher, you are a legend!).

It took a few weeks for the cracks to appear and we all knew Malpas is/was more a coach than manager, when TB was manager Maurice had the respect from the players the second TB left he lost the team the second he had them!

Funny you word it like that, our good players did become shit and then suddenly get better under the knew MM (Mark McGhee). Examples, two young boys David Clarkson (now a solid Scotland international) and Marc Fitzpatrick (as far as I know he has been in and out the Scotland u21's) were gash under Malpas and soon as he left Clarky was joint 2nd top scorer last season (after Chris Porter who we got from Oldham) and Fitzy is now a first team pick now in midfield.

Clean sheets? What are they? Definitely wasn't Maurices bedding knowing his jackit was on a shacky nail..

Maurice was a Scotland international in his day, CB he was, it may surprise you, our defence couldn't hold water if they tried.. rarely rarely kept clean sheets and always relied on Scott McDonald (now at Celtic) to score more than we conceded.

Take from that what you wish..

I'm skeptical as to whether Robyn is real. That-is-all.

Perhaps its all just one massive co-incedence

Yeah, maybe. Perhaps not though :)

No-one else would come up with 'shacky nail'. Except maybe janaage.

Then it's janaage :D

My step-dad is Scottish and I know my Scottish terminology, maybe it's me  :bye:

 Yep Maureece was a full back not a centre back....must be Spacey.

is it?

This was what triggered my doubts.

No.

It was before my time so, I apologise, he was a FB!

But, I am real, honest..  ;)

prove it...

I reckon you're Holloway in disguise.

Match up IP addresses of these other posters?

 :(

You got me, you know I can't be arsed to do that. OK, you're real.

Thanks for taking the time to depress us further Robyn.

:)

That I apologise for!

But, I was asked so I answered..

I do genuinely hope your club get rid of Malpas soon, it won't get better we thought it would but, it all ended in hundreds of 'Well fans gathered at the entrance of Fir Park with Malpas Must Go banners (I think we still have them, if yous want them? :P).

What I can say positively, Im overally glad you dont have Paul Hegarty as no.2!

Have you been over to www.thisisstfc.co.uk yet. You could make a fortune.

I'll take that into consideration.

Anyway, whens you next game and 'should' yous win it?

southend away on Sat and definately not!

Ive never seen us win at Roots hall.....Definitely dont expect that to change anytime soon either.

 Roots Hall is definitely an STFC graveyard.

Saw us win 3-2 there in the league cup in the play-off season. Mooney and two from Parkin if I remember rightly. Very hot day that was.

We drew Leeds away in the next round...

I went to watch Hearts a few seasons back at a freezing Fir Park when Rix was in charge. Hartley scored a last minute penalty to grab an undeserved 1-1. Was Malpas in charge then?

Moony grabbers first goal for the club......i was there!

I remember us beating them 6-1... Only that was at home, pretty sure we had 6 different goal scorers and that Jimmy Davis was one of them. I think that win saved King really. Quite funny that Malpas needs a win against Southend to save his career as well, if we lose on Saturday he's a goner.

Nah, Im sure that was Terry Butcher!

According to todays WDP article,it's only going to take 3 or 4 more games before MM takes some action!

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/sport/Swindon-boss-Malpas-threat-bring-loan-players-squad-fails-deliver/article-399666-detail/article.html

There's nothing like some quick decisive action.

"The next three or four games is crucial for them, otherwise I will be going to the chairman to ask about getting some players in."

Dont be so fucking daft !

3 to 4 games ????????????????????????

 :bye: :bye: :bye:

I would've liked to have seen a defensive loan player bring some needed competition well over a month ago.

Sorry Rich i know i have said this but we have 9/10 defenders on our books, if he cant get a semi decent back four out of that then what hope have we got.

Whoever was in charge was robbed!! Hearts were mince that day!

I remember Kevin Watson scoring a screamer at Roots Hall-think we won 3-1 that day

If Malpas think he'll still be here in 3 or 4 games time then fair play to him.

Sturrock would have had loan players in after we lost to Cheltenham (worst team in the league as they were at the time).

He totally changed things after that Barnet defeat, 2 players hardly ever played for us again.

Another month? Hahaha.

Has to be said our scouting system is pretty crap at the moment. Since we got Cox and McNamee, its been all downhill.

Maybe he is scared that he will bring in even worse performers than what we have? It is still possible.