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Title: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 06:47:21
Hmmm.

I fear we will not win this.

2-0


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 06:49:43
I had a dream last night that Justin Beiber played in midfield. We didn't have a kit for him so he wore a T-shirt and shorts instead. We won, 7-0.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: manc_red on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 06:53:53
Seriously considering going to this, for some reason. Fuck knows why as the train will be rammed with taffs (plus a few yellow piss no doubt), I can't really afford it and we will probably lose.

1-2.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 07:02:56
1-1

Some 14 year old scoring for us.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Combe Down on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 07:11:31
I had a dream last night that Justin Beiber played in midfield. We didn't have a kit for him so he wore a T-shirt and shorts instead. We won, 7-0.

No boots?

New Cross is twinned with Sodom. We owe them for 2010. Town to win 2-0. Leaving soon for the game.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Essexred on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 07:55:35
Can't see a positive result for us today but I'm going anyway. Interested to see who actually makes the starting 11... And the bench.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 08:00:55
for no other reason than blind faith, 2-1 win


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: WestYorksRed on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 08:09:14
Travelling down from Leeds, no yellow filth on this train. 4-0 Swindon (Stewart 4).


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 08:24:43
My local game. Looking forward to catching up with the London reds for a few beers.

Given our injury crisis a draw would be a very good result today. Don't think we'll get one though, 3-0 'wall.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 08:27:05
Get stuck in to 100/30 for a Town win.

It's our turn surely.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 08:42:22
All odds are against us today. Typical game for us to win and FFS we are due one.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 08:54:51
All odds are against us today. Typical game for us to win and FFS we are due one.

This.  If not we could well finish the day in the bottom 3.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: inept and tiresome on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 09:29:24
2 - 0 to millwall.
I just don't know how rubbish you have to be to lose to us, sadly.
I want to know if Vigs has the vote of confidence after last Saturdays howler?
I'm not going and probably wont be listening on the radio. Just morbid interest really.




Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: manc_red on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 09:41:44
Decided against going in the end.

This means we will win. 2-1.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 09:52:43
A shit goal to get us any kind of result....please!


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 10:18:48
3-0 loss


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 10:24:59
when was the last time we scored from open play other than a deflected/og free kick or corner?

2-0 comfortable loss


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 10:40:57
when was the last time we scored from open play other than a deflected/og free kick or corner?

2-0 comfortable loss

Ajose v Doncaster?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 11:15:43
2-0 defeat, too many injuries


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 11:32:21
Not the sort of place you'd expect to turn up at depleted and take 3 points home from.

0-1 Stewart. COYR


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: newmarket red on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 11:41:24
4-0 loss and cooper thinks we should of won


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 11:41:53
Let's hope nobody gets injured getting off the bus.


Title: Balsa 1st 11
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 11:55:52
 8)Was thinking about our injuries, and players who were constantly getting injured. Barry Corr & Migs were two good players that were injured on and off (we got a good season out of migs though). 

But my favourite sicknote was Gareth Davis (ginger, from Reading). He got a hamstring injury from an innocuous header back to our own keeper once.

Any more spring to mind?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 12:00:25
Sammy Igoe. Although he was probably more stupid than fragile.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 12:04:20
Sammy Igoe. Although he was probably more stupid than fragile.

Didnt he break his wrist falling down the stairs or something? Or wanking


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 12:11:37
I think he took off a cast when he had a fracture - and then fell down the stairs re-breaking whatever it was that was broken.

Either that, or wanking.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Barry Scott on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 12:33:53
Hoolett did his wrist in a fight after finding Gurney playing bury the penis with his bird/wife. Allegedly.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:01:07
Swindon Town FC ‏@Official_STFC 37s37 seconds ago

Town starting XI: Vigouroux, Barry, Branco (C), El-Abd, Ormonde-Ottewill, Traore, Bangoura, Gladwin, Ojamaa, Brophy, Ajose #STFC

b
Subs: Belford, Balmy, Marshall, Randall, Iandolo, Young, Stewart #STFC

Young = Jordan Young (academy player)


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:01:38
Swindon Town FC ‏@Official_STFC 37s37 seconds ago

Town starting XI: Vigouroux, Barry, Branco (C), El-Abd, Ormonde-Ottewill, Traore, Bangoura, Gladwin, Ojamaa, Brophy, Ajose #STFC

Not too bad.. considering..


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:03:43
Hoolett did his wrist in a fight after finding Gurney playing bury the penis with his bird/wife. Allegedly.

Haha, forgot about that one. Igoe is a good one, the cast removal and the gluing his eye while making a model.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:04:38
That bench though..


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:06:09
This is the only picture I could find of Jordan Young (who's on the bench)..


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Barry Scott on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:07:27
Young's young.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:08:22
Young's young.

Still young and learning?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:14:33
I hear they got around the Jordan Steward homesick problem by telling him Millwall is actually in Londonderry.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:28:30
I'm not going and probably wont be listening on the radio. Just morbid interest really.

Any chance you could stop posting too? That'dbegreat.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Munichred on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:31:48
This is the only picture I could find of Jordan Young (who's on the bench)..

If they were fit, we could almost field a team of Jordans.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:35:23
If they were fit, we could almost field a team of Jordans.

Bring back Jordan Pavett.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:38:29
I'm not going and probably wont be listening on the radio. Just morbid interest really.
(http://i.imgur.com/nTObMxv.gif)


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:40:01
(http://i.imgur.com/nTObMxv.gif)

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: LittleRed on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 13:52:40
I Cant see us winning this one, however, the team don't look too bad but the bench does look woefully short of experience. If we only had all our players to choose from i think we would be awesome. Really hoping we pick up something, it can easily happen. Remember swindon a season or two ago when we were doing really well and struggling against the lesser teams at the time. Just gotta frustrate them


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:04:25
Youthful exuberance  will carry us through!


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: LittleRed on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:09:15
Early signs dont sound good  ::)


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:09:51
A team that doesn't score many goals, and can't keep a clean sheet.

Not a recipe for success.

Hope we get something from the game, just can't see it.
Even though Millwall are poor we will make a mistake & gift them a goal, just have to hope that we have scored before that happens


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:16:44
Wigan 3-0 against Colchester so far..


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Processed Beats on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:19:53
Losing.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:20:08
1-0 Millwall..

Long afternoon ahead..  :suicide:


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:20:41
Awful defending again


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:21:53
Awful defending again

Obviously


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Processed Beats on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:27:11
2-0. Oh dear.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: LittleRed on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:27:48
I cant listen anymore sounds harrowing :doh:


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:28:02
Oops. ...we're so shit its unbelievable....

injuries, or something.. blah blah


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:28:40
We played well & were unlucky to lose, Mark Cooper said so (or will do at about 5pm)


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:29:46
I thought I'd try it out on FIFA 16...

(http://i.imgur.com/xJgPUVY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gtHg5YS.jpg)


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:29:58
I can feel a reet thumping coming on.

All very well feeling sorry for Cooper but for FFS he'll never get us out  of this slump


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:30:05
 :cry:


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:32:13
At least there is an attractive midweek fixture against Oldham to keep attendances up!


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:33:36
Well this is going well isn't it?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:34:01
It's a guaranteed 3 points for anyone who plays us.  I've switched off, honestly can't bear it.  If the 4 teams below us all win today, we'll be bottom.

I know we've got alot of injuries, but we should have squad players who can step in when required.  If they're not good enough, there's little point having them.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:35:13
Been shit since January, regardless of injuries or not


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:39:30
At least Twitter is positive..

SHOULD be more than 2-0 but it's not... every cloud and all that..


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:39:41
The players really have no bottle.

Nobody seems to give a fuck.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:42:03
Are you there?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:44:18
Have we actually done anything in the game?

I've literally only seen the Millwall players names mentioned...

Apart from another (nearly) fuck up from Vigouroux..


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:44:48
At least Twitter is positive..

SHOULD be more than 2-0 but it's not... every cloud and all that..

On the basis that we aren't going to score enough to get anything from the game it makes you wonder if maybe it would be better to get an embarrassing hammering, it might just trigger some change.

Thing is I'm not sure many of them have enough pride to worry about it


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Uncletrunx on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:46:09
8 shots to 0.
5 on target to 0.
2 goals to 0.

Newcastle,  Bolton, Forest... Millwall?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:46:11
where is Ajose today?

bring on the kids. fuck it, the game is gone


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:49:42
Realistically, when are we going to have a functioning squad again?  Does the Manager have a strategy other than waiting for his best starting XI to return to fitness?

Alarm bells ringing now.  Something has to change.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:51:28
On the basis that we aren't going to score enough to get anything from the game it makes you wonder if maybe it would be better to get an embarrassing hammering, it might just trigger some change.

Thing is I'm not sure many of them have enough pride to worry about it
If Cooper had any pride he'd fuck off now - and take Williams with him.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: hobnob on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:52:48
Been shit since January, regardless of injuries or not
Spot on


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:53:51
Been shit since January, regardless of injuries or not
Been shit ever since Cooper tinkered with the formation and started playing only one up front, fucked Williams right off and we have never really got going again.  Only one shot on target in a game and a half, is just not good enough.  Will Power make a change now?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:54:33
We have been shit defensively for over a fucking year now, it's absolutely embarrassing watching us try to defend. Even with our best 11 all fit and playing, we are still absymal defensively


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:55:34
Just read we have had 4 shots on target in 3 and a half games.

Ludicrous


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:56:07
Realistically, when are we going to have a functioning squad again?  Does the Manager have a strategy other than waiting for his best starting XI to return to fitness?

Alarm bells ringing now.  Something has to change.
I posted similar to this in another thread after someone said give him 5 or 6 games when everyone is back.  Realistically we're then into January when we could well be already adrift at the bottom.  It's too long to wait. We've been shit for months, I can't see it changing.


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 14:56:35
Realistically, when are we going to have a functioning squad again?  Does the Manager have a strategy other than waiting for his best starting XI to return to fitness?

Alarm bells ringing now.  Something has to change.
One would expect the fringe players to see the opportunity to stake a claim but no one seems to give a toss.

Cooper seems under no pressure, ,there must be a reason Power seems unwilling to put any pressure on him? It's not helped by many supporters being so desperate to blame Power for everything that Cooper gets an easy ride?

Shambles....


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Ironside on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:04:30
I understand we've barely been able to field a first eleven today.

I understand we've lost most of the squad from last season.

I understand our recruitment policy.

I understand our on the pitch philosophy.

We've been shit all year.

What I don't understand is why we haven't changed or adapted our system when our results prove that our system no longer produces results.

Based on Powers comments, there's only one man who's to blame and that is Cooper.

P45 at 17:00 please


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:06:49
I wonder how many actually bothered going today..


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:07:46
Didn't expect anything from today's game. Lose on Tuesday at home to oldham and I think that may have to be unfortunately.

Alarm bells are definitely ringing now


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:09:26
I wonder how many actually bothered going today..
I think i saw on twitter that over 500 pre-sold


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:09:32
FUCKING GET IN!!

We've had a shot.. I know it was over the bar, but still!


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:09:59
We've had a shot, not on target obviously but a shot none the less


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: StfcRusty on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:10:39
I think our choice of striking options has hugely been improved upon with Ajose and Thomas added to Obika and Hylton.

We have an abundance of riches in midfield.

All things considered we have a mighty fine squad and POs should be the minimum.


The players really have no bottle.

Nobody seems to give a fuck.

Not having a go just using this to highlight how quickly some fans' views have changed.  Yes, it's shit at the moment but, be fair to Cooper, this is the worst injury crisis I can remember.  Will changing the manager make any difference at all with so many first teamers out for a few weeks to come?  For those of us who have had the pleasure of an away day at Millwall, is it any wonder this, on the whole, team of inexperienced kids are out of their depth?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:11:49
Balmy may inject some urgency but it's depressing.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:12:05
I think i saw on twitter that over 500 pre-sold

I saw a figure of 511 pre-sold


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:12:47
Realistically, when are we going to have a functioning squad again?  Does the Manager have a strategy other than waiting for his best starting XI to return to fitness?

Alarm bells ringing now.  Something has to change.

In short NO....


Title: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:14:15
our average number of shots on target to goals  scored was third or fourth best in the football league. somewhere around 2.5 per goal.

this is fantastic news, we may score sometime in December


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:15:39
For the record, I want MC to stay.  I think he could come good in the end.  But he needs to demonstrate his Plan B, C, D & E now.  That's his job.  More of the same, however depressing the injury situation, is not good enough and not what he's being paid for.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:18:22
That magical 52 points looks a long, long way away right now.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Outletred on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:18:40
All these injuries are not bad luck- many are not even occurring in matches and indicate issues with training and conditioning.

Unfortunately for this the buck stops with Cooper and Williams.

This league is the weakest in years and our position just ain't acceptable


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:20:36

Not having a go just using this to highlight how quickly some fans' views have changed.  Yes, it's shit at the moment but, be fair to Cooper, this is the worst injury crisis I can remember.  Will changing the manager make any difference at all with so many first teamers out for a few weeks to come?  For those of us who have had the pleasure of an away day at Millwall, is it any wonder this, on the whole, team of inexperienced kids are out of their depth?
Views change with the reality of games. I never thought we could be this shit, embarrassingly, game after game, real proper shit.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:20:41
Hm


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:21:42
Lee Power sending him a snapchat


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:23:16
Hm
Just sending Power a text 'Lee just remember I know all the secrets...'


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:24:08
2 points off bottom, excellent!


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:24:45
He's way out of his depth. Looking at that pic no wonder he is unable to motivate his players.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:24:50
2 points off bottom, excellent!
1 goal above the relegation zone


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: StfcRusty on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:25:15
For the record, I want MC to stay.  I think he could come good in the end.  But he needs to demonstrate his Plan B, C, D & E now.  That's his job.  More of the same, however depressing the injury situation, is not good enough and not what he's being paid for.

I genuinely think any manager would struggle to get anything from Millwall away with the starting XI Cooper has at his disposal at the moment - too many inexperienced and unproven youngsters.  Whether or not we think Cooper is the right manager, I just don't see anyone else being able to put points on the board until we get some of our quality players back on the pitch.

As fans, we often bitch about a lack of loyalty shown by footballers and football managers.  What about us showing some loyalty to Cooper now when he needs us most?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:26:15
Cos he's useless


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: RedLadyBucks on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:27:05
Views change with the reality of games. I never thought we could be this shit, embarrassingly, game after game, real proper shit.

Agreed, just wish this nightmare would end!


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:28:03
Views change with the reality of games. I never thought we could be this shit, embarrassingly, game after game, real proper shit.

I was expecting win, lose, draw, repeat...giving us a mid table finish. Million miles away from that at the minute.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:29:01
Yes we are missing lots of players etc but you can't give up till they are back. Find a way of winning! At the moment we are getting worse every week. Look at the match stats today, zero shots/corners! you have to find a way to do something, to show some fight. He's got the next 2 home games in my book to show improvement and pick up at least 4 points, if not get him out.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: StfcRusty on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:29:29
Cos he's useless

Not sure many were saying this when we were 1 game from promotion.  I understand the frustration with performances and results but, surely, he deserves the chance to get things right when, say, 6 of the 11 injured are back on the pitch?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:30:02
Snapchatting Power, playing Snake, maybe texting abramovich about the Chelsea job?

As fans, we often bitch about a lack of loyalty shown by footballers and football managers.  What about us showing some loyalty to Cooper now when he needs us most?


I'm going for posting on the TEF though :D


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:30:09
Agreed, just wish this nightmare would end!
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Title: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:31:00
joking aside
 - our training could be fine, it could be down to bad luck. unless someone knows something specifically wing with it.
 - any L1 team would struggle with 11 out
 - our squad doesn't have enough quality, even if the first 11 do
 - I'd at least expect to see some passion and effort from whoever plays. these players are 'turtling'
 - I feel sorry for cooper, but the buck always stops at the managers head. I joked about him being on jobsite.com, but being on the phone could be anything.
 - do we do any defensive training at all? el-abd and Branco are experienced enough, so that's not a factor


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:32:58
Not sure many were saying this when we were 1 game from promotion.  I understand the frustration with performances and results but, surely, he deserves the chance to get things right when, say, 6 of the 11 injured are back on the pitch?
He's had a very long time to fashion a functioning defence - failed spectacularly


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:34:07
Not sure many were saying this when we were 1 game from promotion.  I understand the frustration with performances and results but, surely, he deserves the chance to get things right when, say, 6 of the 11 injured are back on the pitch?
I would agree but we have been woeful since January... Of the 11 ,injured how many are starters? The starting team today didn't look too bad, the bench is weak but starting 11 looked at least capable of competing?


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Ironside on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:37:20
Not sure many were saying this when we were 1 game from promotion.  I understand the frustration with performances and results but, surely, he deserves the chance to get things right when, say, 6 of the 11 injured are back on the pitch?

Some have been saying it since his appointment. Many were saying it when our results turned south at the start of this year.

We scraped into the playoffs because of our results before Christmas. We had a squad that could have won the division.

He's had all season to work on the system, he's persisted with a system that isn't getting results.

If the manager won't change the system, we should change the manager.


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:39:23
I would agree but we have been woeful since January... Of the 11 ,injured how many are starters? The starting team today didn't look too bad, the bench is weak but starting 11 looked at least capable of competing?
Turnbull, kasim, robert, obika, Thomas, both thompson's. Possibly williams depending on formation.

Agree that it should have been more competitive on paper


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:41:26

He's had all season to work on the system, he's persisted with a system that isn't getting results.

If the manager won't change the system, we should change the manager.

But it's not just the manager is it? This is why I don't see how replacing Cooper would change things in the way some people seem to assume it will, because Power will still be here.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:44:13
Been shit since January, regardless of injuries or not
which year was that ?????


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: StfcRusty on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:46:13
I would agree but we have been woeful since January... Of the 11 ,injured how many are starters? The starting team today didn't look too bad, the bench is weak but starting 11 looked at least capable of competing?

I think the key thing here is the number of young, inexperienced players who would have never known what it's like to struggle in a scrap and deal with the pressure and atmosphere of a losing team.

Before this season started Vigs, Boo, Brophy, Barry and bangoura (all starters today) were all 21 or under and had never started a first team professional game amongst them


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:51:04
Let's be honest we will all continue to support however bad it gets... But wonder how many clubs fan base would be demanding time for the manager with a similar 11 month record.

I suppose the key will be whether anyone else thinks Cooper is worth a punt after he finally leaves here?

At least nice to see Bournemouth getting a shoeing!


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:53:06
Quote from: Batch
2-0 comfortable loss

even a stopped clock.....

right, now for coopers "did quite well...... lots of possession... no quality in final third".


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:55:14
2-0 - Thats a result for us !!!!!!!  -  Roll on Tuesday.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:55:30
2 shots on target in 3 games.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:56:16
Quote from: JoeMezz
2 shots on target in 3 games.
statistically, the next one will go in


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 15:58:31
One shot on target and Stewart got it.



Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:01:51
One shot on target and Stewart got it.
That's actually quite embarrassing we couldn't even muster the interest to commit more fouls than they did...


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:04:47
have to say I was hoping to hear furious cooper today. but he's just playing the 'inexperienced' card.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:06:23
oh boy, gladwin may be injured now (knee)


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:08:01
Oh, just fuck off Cooper.

Had enough of your post match drivel.



Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:10:17
I have the same feeling about most of your posts


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:12:11
Cooper -  They tried and gave it everything they've got.  Can't question commitment and desire.

Basically just said they're waiting for injured players to return for things to change, but won't be in near future.

Gladwin doubt for Tuesday.  Fluid on knee.

Not impressed with Ojaama.

Couldn't be much worse.





Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Sippo on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:14:25
Oh, just fuck off Cooper.



We all know how you feel, you've been harping on about it on a daily basis.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:14:50
Appalling today. I know we have injuries but that was just worse than awful. Should have been 4/5/6 -0. Not being able to compete in this league is very worrying.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:14:56
I have the same feeling about most of your posts
Yeah, well you can fuck off as well


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:15:30
Too easy, sounds like he accepted the loss before kick off with the injury crisis in his back pocket ready to pull out..

What else can I do?  They are young kids that gave their all..

Sick of hearing about the young inexperienced side now. 


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:16:17

Basically just said they're waiting for injured players to return for things to change, but won't be in near future.



He's got a point became we were fucking brilliant before the injuries started...


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Sippo on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:17:59
I think a lot of his signings have been a bit of a 'panic'.

I think we made a massive mistake in signing ajose. We should've bought a cb and possibly a keeper. Too many loan players.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Is that 7 losses on the bounce. No manager in the land should survive that.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:18:44
Not Cooper's signings tbf


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Langers on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:20:37
That game was summed up by our fans cheering wildly for our first shot on target just before the end.

Pathetic performance.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:22:18
He's got a point became we were fucking brilliant before the injuries started...

:D


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: herthab on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:23:12
As Power dictates the style of play and also signs the players, I don't think complaints relating to either area should be levelled at Cooper. What is a concern is his lack of motivational and inspirational skills.

I like Cooper, he seems like a nice bloke, but I've got my doubts that he has the leadership nous to turn this around.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:23:23
Bring back Nile Ranger. At least Ajose could play with him


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:25:17
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Is that 7 losses on the bounce. No manager in the land should survive that.

No, its 4. Lost 7 of last 8 though.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:26:47
30 players have featured for the Town in the league.
2 other players have also featured in cup competitions.
3 other players have been in matchday squads without playing.

35 players used before the end of October is ridiculous, be it unlucky or not.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:28:00
Realistically, when are we going to have a functioning squad again?  Does the Manager have a strategy other than waiting for his best starting XI to return to fitness?

Alarm bells ringing now.  Something has to change.

Are your clocks slow?  The alarm bells started ringing several weeks ago....and the panic button was pressed soon after. I said earlier in the week, we need to pick up a minimum of 4 points from the next 4 games, ...fewer and you're looking at something close to PO form for the rest of the season to stay up...doable but unlikely.

As regards change, it can't happen....we're locked into method of recruitment and playing.


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:28:05
I do like that we are doing things differently as usual. There is a long history of decent managers being blamed for the failings of shite chairmen, we seem to be the Mirror image of that!

The fact that Cooper seems entirely unable to motivate a team to even show up us a worry?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:28:20
As Power dictates the style of play and also signs the players, I don't think complaints relating to either area should be levelled at Cooper. What is a concern is his lack of motivational and inspirational skills.

I like Cooper, he seems like a nice bloke, but I've got my doubts that he has the leadership nous to turn this around.
I genuinely like him. I don't know how much actual input he has, but he is the man who is in the position that takes the flak.

He was undoubtedly happy to take the plaudits last year, whether that was down to him or not.

All that Wendies bollocks is coming back to haunt us.

whatever it is he does it aint working


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:28:58
Bring back Nile Ranger. At least Ajose could play with him

Whether it was consensual or not.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:29:31
He's got a point became we were fucking brilliant before the injuries started...

This is what I keep telling the happy clappers.

Before Turnbulls red at the Pox we were good enough to compete but never ever looked liked scoring.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Power to people on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:29:50
So morale is going to be low at the club on a losing streak not playing well and then Cooper comes and gives and inspirational interview. The bloke sounded like he's given up until the injured players return and he does not expect another win until then.

He then expects the injured players to come in when fit and have their heads up and miracle happens we win every game again - someone is a little deluded I feel.

Cooper & Williams to leave the club please - time for someone else to have a go


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:31:15
Whether it was consensual or not.

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:34:31
I still think a little more time for Cooper personally, can't see a new manager being able to change anything with the players at his disposal. If nothing changes after fa cup weekend (7/8 nov) then maybe a change would be needed then.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:37:46
One suspects that if Mark Cooper can't get a positive result against Oldham then he's done.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:38:46
Not having any right backs is really irritating me.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:39:18
I still think a little more time for Cooper personally, can't see a new manager being able to change anything with the players at his disposal. If nothing changes after fa cup weekend (7/8 nov) then maybe a change would be needed then.

I wonder who we'll get knocked out by this year..


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:39:49
One suspects that if Mark Cooper can't get a positive result against Oldham then he's done.

I've been thinking the same thing for about the last three games.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:40:29
Not having any right backs is really irritating me.

It's easy... left back plays as a right back... goes down the right wing and instead of cutting in, just does a rabona into the box.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:40:45
And another annoying thing is that league 1 is so fucking bad. Sheffield
United were the best team I've seen this year and they were very ordinary.

Frustrating that we look so uncompetitive even against 'poor' sides

And Gladwin won't pass the ball because I guess he knows his teammates aren't that good.
So many negatives at the moment.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:43:38
And another annoying thing is that league 1 is so fucking bad. Sheffield
United were the best team I've seen this year and they were very ordinary.

Frustrating that we look so uncompetitive even against 'poor' sides

It's alright though, we've got a lot of northern away games on boggy pitches to come.

We'll get some points there..


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:46:56
I think a lot of his signings have been a bit of a 'panic'.

I think we made a massive mistake in signing ajose. We should've bought a cb and possibly a keeper. Too many loan players.

But it seemed to be what most of the "managers" on here wanted!


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:48:02
This is what I keep telling the happy clappers.

Before Turnbulls red at the Pox we were good enough to compete but never ever looked liked scoring.

Worryingly, things could be a lot worse. We were fairly lucky to take 4 points v Bradford (H) and Crewe (A). Although the second half against Bradford was very good (Byrne baby Byrne).

The defence is a big worry, and I just don't see NT making much difference.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: StfcRusty on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:49:47

Cooper & Williams to leave the club please - time for someone else to have a go

Paul Hart?


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Ironside on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:50:12
As Power dictates the style of play

Style of play is one thing. The system in which the style of play is manifest is different.

I think we have the squad of players but we have a manager who who won't change.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:50:25
As regards change, it can't happen....we're locked into method of recruitment and playing.

Ah well.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:51:40
Ah well.

We're doomed, doomed I tells ya!


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:57:01
Paul Hart?
Sadly I think by now even Miranda Hart would be an improvement.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 16:57:09
Ah well.

The two previous seasons it worked, this season it isn't.....OK we go down, but can still use the model in Div 4, where it is a bit easier, with only 2 down and 4 up.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: herthab on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:00:21
The two previous seasons it worked, this season it isn't.....OK we go down, but can still use the model in Div 4, where it is a bit easier, with only 2 down and 4 up.
That's the most depressing optimistic post I've ever read.


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:05:46
Sadly I think by now even Miranda Hart would be an improvement.

I think Owen Hart would be even better.


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:11:18
http://www.flicwiltshire.com/reaction-cooper-refuses-to-blame-his-makeshift-squad-despite-latest-defeat/

Could he have blamed inexperience any more times... Do we really have 90% of our first team missing?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:13:10
There isn't a manager in world football that could have got group of players anywhere near a draw let alone a win.  That was the worst midfield we've put out since 05/06. Ajose and Stewart both trying to make runs, midfield couldn't have been less interested in trying to feed them if they tried.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: inept and tiresome on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:16:27
Bring back Nile Ranger. At least Ajose could play with him
Even if you were being flippant, this


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:27:01
Worryingly, things could be a lot worse. We were fairly lucky to take 4 points v Bradford (H) and Crewe (A). Although the second half against Bradford was very good (Byrne baby Byrne).

The defence is a big worry, and I just don't see NT making much difference.

Surely we got 6 points from those 2 games


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:32:15
I think Owen Hart would be even better.

Tony Hart? And now....The Gallery...


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:37:54
Tony Hart? And now....The Gallery...

His first captain..


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:44:23
Morph: My knees gone gaffer!

Chas: That's ok, it'll give me at least five more matches and an excuse to pull out of my Arse post match....


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:46:58
Morph: My knees gone gaffer!

Chas: That's ok, it'll give me at least five more matches and an excuse to pull out of my Arse post match....

Don't worry Morph, you're just young and learning..


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:48:31
I think Owen Hart would be even better.

Paul Bearer has bought him back from the dead and he is making an appearance tuesday night


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:51:57
Quote from: Reg Smeeton
Quote
Ah well.
The two previous seasons it worked, this season it isn't.....OK we go down, but can still use the model in Div 4, where it is a bit easier, with only 2 down and 4 up.

I have a real worry that it's possible it won't work in division 4 like it isn't at the moment.

in any case when we've gone down there in recent years we've spent our way back, even in the diamandis years, but I can't see that this time.

but we aren't there yet..


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:53:09
Jonathan Hart?

https://youtu.be/ilNUh4L0OhA


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 17:54:11
There isn't a manager in world football that could have got group of players anywhere near a draw let alone a win.  That was the worst midfield we've put out since 05/06. Ajose and Stewart both trying to make runs, midfield couldn't have been less interested in trying to feed them if they tried.
Been the case for quiet a few games, feel sorry for whoever plays up top and is making runs


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 18:03:11
The two previous seasons it worked, this season it isn't.....OK we go down, but can still use the model in Div 4, where it is a bit easier, with only 2 down and 4 up.

I have a real worry that it's possible it won't work in division 4 like it isn't at the moment.

in any case when we've gone down there in recent years we've spent our way back, even in the diamandis years, but I can't see that this time.

but we aren't there yet..

True we won't be spending our way out, but our wage bill will at least be in line with many of the clubs we're competing against.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 18:06:47
fair point reg..


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 18:15:34
Tony Hart? And now....The Gallery...
Tony Hart was my first thought but then I concluded that Cooper could probably do better than a dead bloke (at least marginally) hence Miranda.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 18:19:10
561 away fans says it all really. Normally we'd take 1,000+ to a London game.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 18:35:02
The thing that pisses me off the most is it doesn't look like we are trying to change how we play. Maybe try one game of pressing a team really high up the pitch or another game where we play compact, soak it up and hit teams on the break with 4/5 players breaking at pace.

Instead we try to keep the ball and dominate teams which is OK when you have players like Luongo, Kasim etc who have the ability to do so but it's really not going to hack it at Millwall away with 9 first team injuries


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 18:42:18
The perceived wisdom seems to be that our style of play, at the behest of Power, is one that is designed to make it easier to obtain loan players from PL clubs.

Unless this approach is jettisoned and any new manager has free rein to instigate whatever system he thinks best, I can only see things going one way.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 18:47:23
The perceived wisdom seems to be that our style of play, at the behest of Power, is one that is designed to make it easier to obtain loan players from PL clubs.

Unless this approach is jettisoned and any new manager has free rein to instigate whatever system he thinks best, I can only see things going one way.

relegation?

Just out of interest, do Coventry play this way? Armstrong is probably the best loan signing on the season and they attracted him (and Joe Cole actually)


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 18:53:17
relegation?

Just out of interest, do Coventry play this way? Armstrong is probably the best loan signing on the season and they attracted him (and Joe Cole actually)

Tony Mowbray, is one of those rugged old skool centre halves who sides like to play sexy football...


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 18:56:28
No. I still don't think we will get relegated.

My disappointment is down to having this horrendous run of form in such a shite league.

Can't see a tilt at the POs - not even close - but if after gleaning just 1 point from 7 games and still not being in the bottom 4 (just) means there must be at least 4 teams worse than us who have no excuses.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 19:08:26
http://www.flicwiltshire.com/reaction-cooper-refuses-to-blame-his-makeshift-squad-despite-latest-defeat/

Could he have blamed inexperience any more times... Do we really have 90% of our first team missing?
According to SSP on the radio, we've got 9 first choice players out injured or suspended. But I think 9/11 is just under 90%, so no it's only 88% or something.


Title: Re: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: london_red on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 19:12:07
Cooper -  They tried and gave it everything they've got.  Can't question commitment and desire.

Basically just said they're waiting for injured players to return for things to change, but won't be in near future.

Gladwin doubt for Tuesday.  Fluid on knee.

Not impressed with Ojaama.

Couldn't be much worse.

I can question the commitment and desire.

Understand with the injuries etc it's tough at the moment, and you can accept defeats if the players just aren't good enough (and obviously look to address that issue).

But both with and without the ball we didn't seem to want it at all today. Disagree totally with Cooper on the effort levels.

No pace, movement or dynamism when attacking, standing off when defending and zero tracking back from the midfield.

That frustrates more than the lack of quality and shots - no excuse for not putting a shift in and that is down to the players - and ultimately the manager who whatever the model should at least be able to motivate the group.

Very disappointing.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 19:13:31
I'd love him to come out and say "we really were shite today"


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 19:18:37
 :sherlock: If cooper has no apparent influence on the team selection/style etc and it won't change anything, can we be in agreement that we need someone to come in and do team selection and style and therefore to get a change we have to get rid of cooper. Also if cooper doesn't do anything, on what basis would you want to keep him as manager. He has done nothing to deserve the job.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 19:19:14
According to SSP on the radio, we've got 9 first choice players out injured or suspended. But I think 9/11 is just under 90%, so no it's only 88% or something.

9/11 is 82% if you round up. I stuck up for Cooper before but that sort of shoddy level of mathematics shouldn't be tolerated anywhere. The club really is in chaos.

I can see how a manager might not want to come out and say we were totally useless, but there has to be some line between protecting the players and talking complete horse shit, surely?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 19:36:14
Just watched the goals on the Sky Sports app, that is literally the worst defending you'll see all day, across all leagues. Should have been about 8


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 19:40:24
:sherlock: If cooper has no apparent influence on the team selection/style etc and it won't change anything, can we be in agreement that we need someone to come in and do team selection and style and therefore to get a change we have to get rid of cooper. Also if cooper doesn't do anything, on what basis would you want to keep him as manager. He has done nothing to deserve the job.

Not wanting to desperately get rid of him and wanting him to stay aren't necessarily the same thing.

It's not that I think removing Cooper will make no difference because Cooper doesn't do anything, but because the only person to replace him is going to be working in exactly the same environment with exactly the same influences.

It's common sense something has to change, but IMHO it's a combination of things, from everyone involved at the club, like:

- a serious assessment of why injuries are so rampant
- more flexibility in terms of playing style and actual implementations of, rather than lip service to, the notorious plan B, C etc
- an attempted resolution of any rift(s) if they do indeed exist among staff
- better motivation of players & at least an attempt at consistency with regards to their roles on the pitch
- some sort of defensive coaching regime which goes beyond hiding in a bush with your fingers crossed, which is I'm sure is all we can be doing at the moment
- a bit of luck maybe?

Cooper may be responsible for some of those things, but if he goes today, it's not as if all those concerns are going to be wiped away. That's the reason I'm not screaming from the rooftops for him to fuck off, anyway.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 19:46:56
No. I still don't think we will get relegated.

My disappointment is down to having this horrendous run of form in such a shite league.

Can't see a tilt at the POs - not even close - but if after gleaning just 1 point from 7 games and still not being in the bottom 4 (just) means there must be at least 4 teams worse than us who have no excuses.

In 05/06 we had a similar run of defeats, which led to Kingy getting sacked an Iffy taking it on....now to give you some idea of the trouble we're in that season after 13 games, Iffy got us turning the corner a bit, and we only lost 3 of the next 20, but the damage had been done. Which is why it is so important we pick at least 3 or 4 points from the next 3 games, just to keep in touch.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 19:48:25
I'd love him to come out and say "we really were shite today"
Yes, that would really help inspire young players who are clearly struggling anyway.
9/11 is 82% if you round up. I stuck up for Cooper before but that sort of shoddy level of mathematics shouldn't be tolerated anywhere. The club really is in chaos.
Well, he might be thinking it's 10/11 - I was taking the 9/11 from what SSP said on the radio so any shoddy maths here is probably down to me. SSP, incidentally, was having no truck whatever with any suggestion that Cooper could be blamed for the current run of losses when we have so many 1st choice players out missing. Which personally I find persuasive as SSP quite clearly:
a) loves the club and will call it as he sees it in the best interests of the club
b) actually knows what he is talking about, unlike most of us

What concerns me slightly is I'm not so sure we'll be that much better when the injured/suspended players are all back. And I do wonder how many of those injured players would be fit enough to muddle through if we were flying high and doing well and they had to fight for their places.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:03:22
we were shit today.
depressingly shit. what a waste of £26.
do well to hit 6,000 on tuesday  :badmood: :( :headhurts:


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:14:31
Just read on Daily Mail website Cooper set for showdown with Power - Surely this can't be it ?????? :cry:


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:15:50
Just read on Daily Mail website Cooper set for showdown with Power - Surely this can't be it ?????? :cry:

Keep up at the back..gone!


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:20:47
Just read on Daily Mail website Cooper set for showdown with Power - Surely this can't be it ?????? :cry:
That's what happens when you rely on the Mail for news. You end up waaaay behind everyone else. Usually in the 1930s.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Christy on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:23:43
I really don't know where to start, so maybe at the end.  To arrive, blinking, resigned into London Bridge and real life just after 5pm is some credit to the Millwall match day 'experience'.  It's an odd set up, a sanitised day out with no contact with the locals.  Shame that our team took that approach to heart - irrespective of the 14 players available to wear the shirt today, this was pitiful, so gutless and uncompetitive that I think the hosts only free kick in the first half came courtesy of a Branco dive.

Once again the physical contrast in the teams was startling, learning nothing from the untangling of last season, we've somehow assembled an even more lightweight outfit.  Thankfully Millwall were not special, but an honest, streetwise, effective enough bunch to make it quite literally men against boys.

Credit of sorts to Branco, Al Abd, Vigs and Stewart.  Though diminutive alright, Srewart looked spiky and like he might be pretty bothered.  The Bangoura fella did try to get involved, if below the touch and quality expected.

Otherwise, there's those plainly out of their depth: Barry, Brophy, Balmy, Randall - they tried, but simply aren't very good or not ready.  If I'm going to be critical it's those with proper professional backgrounds who, depleted though we may be, are letting us down.  The eBay wonder Ojaama, the frankly dreadful BOO, the ever ineffective Ajose.  And don't get me started on Gladwin, a player whose talent is in my blind spot even on the good days, which even those who fawn over his stepovers, his blind alleys and his capability to produce a wayward shooting opportunity out of nothing, will accept was not today.

Yaser Kasim sat amongst us in the first half, but reportedly, allegedly, apparently, gave up and sat in the coach for the second half.  If that's true, that just about sums us up.


Title: Re:
Post by: Only Me on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:00:26
Ancelotti is still available.

Ok, maybe the Villa manager


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:19:25
That's what happens when you rely on the Mail for news. You end up waaaay behind everyone else. Usually in the 1930s.

 :clap:

Great report Christy.. Although great seems the wrong word. I love that our most enthusiastic player on the pitch is now the player being described as "pretty bothered". Says it all.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:24:15
Yeah, thanks Christy. I think


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:32:16
I really don't know where to start, so maybe at the end.  To arrive, blinking, resigned into London Bridge and real life just after 5pm is some credit to the Millwall match day 'experience'.  It's an odd set up, a sanitised day out with no contact with the locals.  Shame that our team took that approach to heart - irrespective of the 14 players available to wear the shirt today, this was pitiful, so gutless and uncompetitive that I think the hosts only free kick in the first half came courtesy of a Branco dive.

Once again the physical contrast in the teams was startling, learning nothing from the untangling of last season, we've somehow assembled an even more lightweight outfit.  Thankfully Millwall were not special, but an honest, streetwise, effective enough bunch to make it quite literally men against boys.

Credit of sorts to Branco, Al Abd, Vigs and Stewart.  Though diminutive alright, Srewart looked spiky and like he might be pretty bothered.  The Bangoura fella did try to get involved, if below the touch and quality expected.

Otherwise, there's those plainly out of their depth: Barry, Brophy, Balmy, Randall - they tried, but simply aren't very good or not ready.  If I'm going to be critical it's those with proper professional backgrounds who, depleted though we may be, are letting us down.  The eBay wonder Ojaama, the frankly dreadful BOO, the ever ineffective Ajose.  And don't get me started on Gladwin, a player whose talent is in my blind spot even on the good days, which even those who fawn over his stepovers, his blind alleys and his capability to produce a wayward shooting opportunity out of nothing, will accept was not today.

Yaser Kasim sat amongst us in the first half, but reportedly, allegedly, apparently, gave up and sat in the coach for the second half.  If that's true, that just about sums us up.

Respect....you went...top man


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 11:31:50
Lowlights are up

http://youtu.be/sxAa1qQrIEw

How that wasn't 4/5/6 - 0 I don't know


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 11:36:35
Respect....you went...top man

I went as well.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 11:55:11
didn't even show our shot, or any of our attacks, which could be the same thing!


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 12:22:40
Lowlights are up

http://youtu.be/sxAa1qQrIEw

How that wasn't 4/5/6 - 0 I don't know

I actually commented to my old man that Vigs seemed to be stopping most of their efforts accidentally.

The amount of times a solo man up top for them was in between Branco and El-Abd and managed to get away, even from just basic lumps upfield, was embarrassing.

As soon as Traore gave the ball away leading to their counter for the 1st goal the writing was on the wall, you could see it coming a mile off.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 15:56:06
Yesterday afternoon was utterly depressing. I agree in the main with the thoughts of Christy, however would not give Branco and El Abd any credit at all - for the exact reason outlined by Kinky Tom in that Gregory was constantly in acres of space between them.

It was a disgraceful performance, the worst of Cooper's tenure for me - we simply rolled over. Vigouroux getting a warning for time wasting at a goal kick about 10 minutes in made clear exactly what our intentions were.

Christy has rightly made the point that four players who were on the pitch yesterday, Barry, Brophy, Balmy and Randall, were out of their depth. It wasn't their fault, but it was embarrassing watching them - I hope once the injured players return, we look to loan each of the four out. We really need to move things around so Barry does not start on Tuesday, even if it means a midfielder playing in his position.

Last mention must go to Ojaama, who somehow seems to get worse with every match he plays - pathetic again yesterday.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: suttonred on Monday, October 19, 2015, 08:05:40
One of my Millwall friends a season ticket holder since the 60's reckons we were possibly the worst side he's ever witnessed. He did like the wild cheering at our only shot though.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, October 19, 2015, 08:46:55
One of my Millwall friends a season ticket holder since the 60's reckons we were possibly the worst side he's ever witnessed. He did like the wild cheering at our only shot though.

That is quite likely...my feeling on Saturday, was that this could posssibly be the weakest side we'd ever fielded in a Div 3 game.


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:04:39
Until tomorrow

And you can get 2/1 Oldham


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:12:47
There was a spell in the second half where my mate and I looked at each other and started going through our team - and the front in particular. Brophy, Balmy, Randall, Stewart, Traore, Bangoura - without doubt the poorest collection of players in living memory, both on paper and on grass.

But it must get better as players come back.... right?


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:15:53
 Bit rough including Stewart in that bunch - give him a chance


Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:18:40
Bit rough including Stewart in that bunch - give him a chance

Same could be said for Brophy and Randall too - I'm not not giving them a chance, but right now at this level that's obviously a very weak collection of players.

JS showed flashes of promise and has got something, definitely, and there's a player in Brophy too, he just needs to spend three months in a gym.



Title: Re: Millwall V Swindon - matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:19:21
There was a spell in the second half where my mate and I looked at each other and started going through our team - and the front in particular. Brophy, Balmy, Randall, Stewart, Traore, Bangoura - without doubt the poorest collection of players in living memory, both on paper and on grass.

But it must get better as players come back.... right?

As Cooper pointed out, these are players who need the odd game now and then and 20 minutes here and there, to try and develop them....having them all in together is in reality a Conference South side.  When we get a few back we should at least be a bit more competitive, but that doesn't guarantee points....