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On the grounds that I currently have a 100% win ratio in matchday threads heres a hiding to nothing.

And also I predicted a narrow 1-0 defeat so I will do the same again.

Fingers crossed!

Althuogh I'm a totally miserable cunt I'm going for a 2-1 win. jj - keep up the good work

please god let us win. i refuse to lose to those plastic cunty cunts

How have the matchday threads been going with out me? I imagine that they are a bit rubbish?

how about you do something to this one and see if it is good or rubbish?

I propose for every person who makes a negative post made in this thread, ben changes their avatar to a picture of his chode

I think we'll smash the dirty, stinking, Franchise cunts 3-1.

1-0 to the Swindon Town.

We are going to smash their bitch asses all the way back to MiltonKeynesShire.

2-0 Town.

Just fucking win!

The Righteous Town 1 - Cuntslops 0.

Fuck off franchise.

15-0 Town.

It would be more but that's the most the Prediction League will allow.

I have no idea what kind of crowd we will get today? Just hope we try and get behind the team

Town 3 McDonalds 0

1-0 Town, Douglas to score in last 10 with 20 yard screamer.

We'll lose and that's the season over. 2-1 franchise.

No idea what the result is going to be, but I really hate the fucking plastic cunts.

They are probably even worse than the yellow scum from up the road, they don't have a choice because they are inbred wankers, whereas the plastic scum chose to steal someone else's team.

Is there a glimmer of survival hope out there in the distance somewhere, is there, is there? Is there fuck.

Todays game = MEH!

Lose and it's game over. Win and it could all be back on again. Could be a really interesting afternoon.

IT'S ON. Huge game, show us you want it as bad as we do Town.

The Scum are hated because of who they are, the Franchise wankstains are hated because of what they are. There's room in my heart to hate both with a bit left over for the Slave Traders and the Shirt Batterers.

Could everybody please do what they were doing last Saturday afternoon, thank you.
We will lose.

That's going to be tough for those who were watching Town at Brentford.

Whether or not we can actually stay up, we have to win this just because of what we're playing. A fucking abomination on the face of football. Come on lads, put the worries behind you and go out play with some pride - play for everything that history, tradition and community means in football and spank their plastic club-stealing arses all the way back to their plastic fucking town

I was in a pub in North Yorkshire with the family - only got back yesterday. Sorry, can't oblige but i will go to the game and abuse the club stealing platic wankstains if that would help. It will certainly help me.

I'm wearing the same as I wore last week (right down to the pants) if that helps. And yes, it has been washed in the meantime

0-0  :pint:

Ha likewise, not so much on the washed front.

Euuuuggghhhh!

3-1 to Town and jjedmunds getting so excited that his thread earns a win that he gives us all a free laptop and subscription to STFCWorld next season!  (Well, it worked last week!)

Well, we can't do much worse than Somerset are...so much for the Cricket season raising my mood.

I was stoned and a little drunk, and would be willing to oblige again

come on town must win game come on fans get behind them today

If B'mth lose at County today, expect Bradbury to get the bullet.

1-1

I'd shoot him myself. Fortunately muff have just gone one up

:D

Good news, especially for Bradbury

afraid not, unless someone wants to book me a flight to Turkey

I'm a bit meh to the whole thing and wouldnt be going if it wasnt for the fact my saturday teams game was cancelled.

I doubt i'll even celebrate our goals today.

glen hoddle and john gorman are in the building

Hug?

Phil Smith; Paul Caddis, Andy Frampton, Lecsinel Jean-Francois, Alan Sheehan; Alassane N'Diaye, Jonathan Douglas, David Prutton; Jon-Paul McGovern, Calvin Andrew, Matt Ritchie.

Substitutes: Jakub Jesionkowski, Scott Cuthbert, Michael Timlin, Simon Ferry, Elliot Benyon, Michael Rose, Billy Bodin.

not a bad team

No, we are... :)

Hate to say it but brighton's ground seems to be coming along nicely, they will be selling the away teams local beer in the away end and have LED lights of the colour of the away team.

As fancy as that sounds, it's not for me.

nope its not for you

Just got commentary - why are we kicking off so late?

Notts County lost 2-0 and Walsall losing to Brighton. Come on town!

Something wrong with the nets.

Fuck off Walsall (level).

But Daggers just gone 1-0 down

Anything happening?

Not much TBH.

Well this'll never do.

SCORE SWINDON, SCORE!

Fucking typical

o'hanlon cunt

Nobody likes pantomine villian.

That's it then, best we can hope for is a draw.

No chance we can score 2 in a game ;)

jesus we are playing tedious shit. om

completely and utterly fucking toothless, and everytime franchise come forward they look like scoring. prutton having no impact, although none of the midfield is really. back to dogshite

n'diaye complete liability on wing

BBC live match stats reports we have had 23% possession. At home that is fucking embarrassing.

Oh no... He was supposed to be the missing link.

Hi chaps...Tuning in from overseas...Normal service resumed I see!

It would help him if he looked even a bit fucking interested.

He's looking like a poor version of Pericard

probably because he aint a fucking winger

i dont think he knows what it is hes supposed to be doing, i dunno what theyre supposed to be doing! this is rubbish

We are bottom of the league.

17% possession? Is there a prob with the stats or are we bloody awful?

did i hear hoddle and gorman are at the match?

You know this is almost a relief. Since last week a sliver of doubt has crept in about whether there really was no hope of surviving. The sooner that's taken away from me and I can't feel any more disappointment the better.

And I really don't want Hart in charge next season

You know you don't really need anyone to answer that don't you?

yes gorman is here with Franchise. hoddle is here too.  

:-(

Not going too well then

You could say that.

We're up to 36% now with 0 shots on target!

put it this way.  the game is more interesting on the internet than the pitch.

Andrew hits the bar

Didn't he do that last week and we won?

HT

Maybe not, doesn't stop him putting in some fucking effort though does it?

He's strolling around like he owns the place or we are 4-0 up

looked more like Sean o'h to me

hit the bar from 2 yards out. i feel guilty i said they were gonna score from the corner before they took it.

he's being played out of position and 2 of our best moves have come through him

he doesn't look mobile though. or that interested.   stick him in the middle and tell him to mix it up.

It's dull and depressing. I'm pretty glad I can't make Oldham or tranmere.

We are absolutely dire, dongs have controlled the match, we have fuck all up front and don't even look like scoring. If that cunt Hart doesn't bring somebody on up front second half he needs shooting!

The negative twat shouldn't be allowed within 100yards of a football club!

Going down with no pride, no passion, no decent players and certainly no clue at management level!

Wankers

agreed i thought JPM would have played on the right side even prutton would be a better choice

Second half we should try and score a goal.

I think it might help.

All a bit shit so far. N'Diaye looks sharp when he drifts inside, lost on the wing.

Under 10s game on at half time far higher standard so far!

cant wait until the end of the season, wont have to watch that same fucking rockettes routine twice a match

You don't need to keep pointing this out, we know that


Must get an obscured view from the DRS then, cause from here he's not been involved in the game much at all.

afternoon all, well what a shit one it is, we are bottom, wovers out of the relegation zone :(

you miss the penalty appeal and the 1-2 with JPM who curled it wide then?

Peterborough equalise against Argyle... Not that it matters but, you know, just saying.

It means we are not bottom! Best we can hope for? :-(

McParland sent off

I wonder what he said?

One pointy ahead of a team that had a ten point deduction. Yeh for us! :wotjump:

Head in face of Karl Robinson - 'See you Jimmy' no doubt

What is going on?

All turning nasty - Caddis on ground. Ref talking to MK number 7 - Gleeson

Caddis & Gleeson booked

...Robinson responding with "erm, erm, calm down, calm down"?

Is one goal too much to ask for?

Plymouth losing.

It usually is

Nothing happening?

nothing of note no

YAWN

My barbecue is ready

F.A. Cup is on soon.

Come on you Cunts !!

What's the dish of the day?

frampton sent off

 :girlgiggle:

You gots to laugh.

Is it over? Did we win?

Get out of here - it's not over yet - you should be out walking!!  :D

Im glad he has been sent off

Poor defender and not sure why he is picked week in week out

At least he cant play in the next game - even though it doesnt matter

i could of gone to watch WBA v Chelski for free today but i turned it down to sit here listening to this shit

It's 16.50, I thought it would be safe. We started the second half late then?

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i really hope Fitton sacks all of these cunts at the end of the season.

And whilst he's at it i hope he's realised how fucking shit Hart is

We started about 7 mins late cos of net problems

The fat lady sang after we drew to Dag and Red

its a shame as results have gone our way,just not good enough for this league

Come on Rose

Ah well

Definitely relegated now
last week's high was just a blip

What a fucking shite game, season and side.

Poor old DVinho went... I fear for his health.

This

There is not one player in the squad I would be disappointed to lose.  With the possible exception of Ritchie and Douglas.

The rest can fuck right off. They have really let us down.  Pack of cunts.

 :cry:

Now this sounds good. Shower of shiiite on the menu?

Hart is the worst manager we've ever had. Easily my most hated. He must have a wad on us to go down.

Hope all the players fuck off at the end of the season and never disgrace the red shirt again.

If we played on till December 2015 we still wouldn't score.

Shame Hart wasn't sent to the stand, usless cunt...

Someone said Hoddle was there today.

Wishful thinking!

Heard that from multiple people. Can't see it.

Hart on the radio sounds utterly defeated.

Hoddle was only there as a guest... He's got his Academy, no point even discussing.

Frampton is a complete cunt

I can't even be bothered to go into the finer details of the game. We r absolutely diabolically shit and that was a fucking disgrace in terms of commitment. Paul Hart can fuck off now, he has added nothing and we may as well run down the season managerless as much good he does. The donkey in the orange boots looked about as good as Pericard on a bad day. They can all fuck right off and I actually can't believe people were applauding that bunch of wasters at the end.

Even Morgan sounds exasperated with what Hart comes out with.

he still makes out we had 3 strikers, what a twat.

Just back, still seething - at least that shows I am still committed.  Hart must never be allowed to manage STFC again, what a crap formation for a game we simply had to win.  Frampton can fuck off back to Millwall immediately - what a cunt to give away a foul in there half when he had already been booked.  Dons deserved to win, better organised and more committed, but no way do they look  play-off side - last year's team would have eaten them by half time.  One attempt on target for both teams just about sums it up.  Now's the time to grasp the mettle Mr Fitton, appoint next year's manager now, let him see the shite he will inherit.  Make the right choice Mr. F., your choiuces so far have not been good, I doubt at the moment you could make the right choice to fart!!!  The only thing worse than us today was the ref - he was a joke but he didn't cost us the game.  We simply are crap!

A bloke just to the right of the dugouts in the Arkells was going ballistic after the pointless Rose for Sheehan sub. Hart turned round, shrugged and seemed to be saying 'come over here if u think u can do better'. He probably could Hart, not fucking hard!

N'diaye  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

First time I have seen him play and he makes Fola Onibuje look like a footballer.

Can't believe the club thought Benyon would be a suitable replacement for Austin. Extremely negative - Hart is clueless.

Hoddle was there today, probably due to Gorman I would think.

Tee-hee.

That was dreeadfull 8)

Am I the only one that wouldn't want Hoddle back as manager?

I can't think of one positive thing to say about our team. devoid of imagination, a team going through the motions, waiting for the summer to come and lacks any semblance of pride.
As a season ticket holder for one more season, I hope A F gets rid of the first team squad except Benyon and Ritchie. If he doesn't break up this team we will shoot straight through div 4.
I really hate losing to Franchise, can't begin to tell you how much i detest them and they didn't have to break into a sweat to beat us.
Ruined my Saturday. Bastards

Utter utter utter utter utter utter garbage. Those words fail to describe the gutless putrid turd that was Swindon Town FC today. Useless beyond comprehension and it is totally deserved to say we are the worst team in the league.

Then I had to listen to that fuckwit Hart going on about how the lads were up for it and that we were unlucky not to get something from the game. Fuck me if that was up for it I'd hate to see a lack lustre fucking performance.  And we may not have any forwards, but that is never a 4-3-fucking-3.

Oh and don't get me started on putting Vincent O'Dire-card  on the wing. Clueless and lost for 95% of his time there. Stick him in the fucking middle instead of the pointless Prutton.

Utter utrer utter wank.

Initially it was just Caddis who came over and applauded the crowd. I and others round me applauded him back, partly for the gesture, but mainly because he was one of 3 players who actually looked like he gave a shit today. Obviously I stopped as soon as the waste of space with the Alice band came over and joined in.

I'd have him back in that midfield.

For me he was the first footballer I saw play that stood out from the rest in terms of ability... and we had a good team too.

Ah the memories... Anyway, HART OUT!

I'd have him back in the middle or as a sweeper.

I'd take anyone as manager over Hart until the end of the season, anyone.

What a gutless performance. The team were just playing the season out. There was no passion, no desire, no commitment - in fact nothing. They played like they were a mid table side at an end of season game. It really was a game of who was the worst of a bad bunch. I think Frampton sealed it with a complete nob end of a sending off. JPM was fucking awful as was N'Diaye. Caddis tried but he had a bad game today. Ritchie probably was MOM but how easy is it to knock him off the ball. In fact, how easy is it to knock any of our players off the ball.
Hopefully, next week we'll pitch the youngsters in and give them a run. Our so called senior players can fuck right off.
Absolute, absolute shite today. The plastic wankstains were pretty crap and their goal was yet again due to rank shit defending.
I think i should also congratulate the ref. Althuogh he didn't cost us the game ( we did that ourselves, again ) he did provide some great entertainment and sending off Frampton should make our defence tighter for the next couple of weeks.
Why can't this season end tomorrow? 

I really hate Hart. Dull tactics, dull interview, dull man.

I reckon Prutton should slip him an envelope full of fivers - it was only his quite astonishing display that stopped Prutton being the worst thing on the pitch.

Prutton's shoulder barge of the 'keeper into the back of the goal was one of the most entertaining things on the pitch all game.

It was his only contribution admittedly.

Not surprising that the views of the game are fairly unanimous that this was a totally dire performance and that Hart is totally barking as thinks otherwise.  I thought I was fairly laid back about how our season has been going and most weeks have simply accepted that we're crap but life goes on. This week I've come home feeling really pissed off as that was one of the most clueless performances I've ever seen, and hearing Hart bemoaning our luck just topped it off.
I don't fully agree with many who say that the team showed no desire today.  I think plenty of them were; Douglas and Prutton were running around and putting themselves about and they (particularly Prutton) have attracted much of the flack. But overall they just didn't appear to have any idea about how they were going to play the game; too often players looked lost and they gave MKD far too much time and space.
There are too many good potentially players here to need to start from scratch next year but we desparately need some new blood in key positions and an inspiring coach who can get them playing as a team.

Fola was quality. Take that back.

Never been so angry at football until today, it was just so dire and N'Diaye is truley a shocking player, no player stood out and the man of the match award should be replaced with who didn't play as bad as everyone else award , to sum it up, a group next to me must have tooken advantage of the £5 ticket offer and left at half time saying how could any sane man put up watching that every week  :beers:

One good thing - there were more empty seats around me today, meaning more legroom. This was good

Can anybody actually tell me what happened in the dug-out skirmish that ended with our assistant manager sent off to the stands and apparently Frampton (useless cunt) booked as well.  Why couldn't Hart have been sent to play on the main railway line instead!

There'll be plenty more next season BD, even more if Hart is the manager!!

Hoddle was there and had a closed door meeting with the directors before the game, he was also at the brentford game last week.

Hmmm..  where to begin.  I'll go with "Utter Shite".  More fool me for gaining a semblance of hope after last week.  As for Hart and his 4-3-3.  I'll believe it's 3 up front when the other 2 are in the same fucking postcode as Calvin Andrew when it arrives at him, let alone running beyond him for a flick on.

I'm not one for singling out players for criticism, but N'Diaye really was something else today.  If you're going to wear orange boots, you've got to be able to carry them off.  Remember Ronaldo and Ronaldinho with the gold ones, fair enough.  Michael Johnson with the gold running spikes, fair enough.  Looks like we could be seeing the launch of a limited edition pair of dog shit brown Predators any time soon.

Rant over.  Four wins from four to come.  We are staying up.  NURSE.  NURSE!!!!!!!!

You'd imagine it was to form some kind of link with his academy than anything more exciting wouldn't you?!

N'Diaye wasn't that bad. Got good feet, a bit of skill. All he needs is a sense of urgency and some match fitness. Way better than O'Brien anyhow.

It's no secret Hoddle was there. The beeb said they interviewed him and he was talking about the academy and stuff.

I don't think we should go jumping to conclusions, his academy means there is a perfect reason for it.

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One shot on target all game. That's why we're going down.

Oh and the ref was a joke, but to blame him for our defeat would be ignoring massive problems elsewhere.

Well I don't think he was anyway. Sheehan and Prutton were the worst players on the pitch today. And how Ritchie won motm is beyond me? Always turning into trouble and giving the ball away. LJF was my MOTM. Very solid performance, handled Ibehre well whereas Frampton struggled.

Frampton kept us in it in the first half with 2 or 3 important challenges and was about the only one to make any tackles. The defence has been a lot tighter with him in it than it was before. We'll see what effect it will have next week when he isnt in the team, my guess is the defence will be worse.

That said, the second yellow was brainless although I had no idea he'd been booked previously, he obviously would have known and should know better than to pick up another yellow 60 yards from goal.

The defensive record has been decent enough in the second half of the season, decent enough to stay up anyway. The problem is the chronic lack of goals. We could have played 5 hours of added time rather than 5 minutes and still not scored. The players dont look like they have any idea how to make our so called formation work.

It was obvious what sort of ref we were in for with the pre match pantomime delaying the kick off. Couldnt see what they were worrying about with the stratton bank goal unless they needed to brush away a few cobwebs!

If I remember correctly Mr Fitton did say he consulted with Glen H. before the Danny Wilson appointment, or have I got that all wrong?

Frampton is poor.

I also couldnt place where Frampton had picked up his first yellow card.

By the dugouts in the McParland incident.

Not half as silly as the yellow card Caddis got for being stamped on.

Fair enough. We'll disagree on N'Diaye then. IMHO at least O'Brien shows the odd burst of speed. He even put a decent cross in this one time.

The rest I find myself agreeing with you. Except I think Frampton is in our top two defenders. He's just not as good as Greer.

That's some accolade.

Frampton isnt in our top 2 defenders but I think he's half of our best centre back pairing.

I think Cuthbert and LFJ are better than Frampton individually but dont work as well with each other as they do with Frampton.

Either way I'd bomb them all out come may.

Aye. Goodness knows where the ref and lino plucked that decision out from.

Just got home, and Batch I have to say you're being far too polite in your comments. That was the first time I left a match early in 26 years voluntarily.

You're not even a funny troll

The post had come away slightly from the bar thanks to their idiot keeper swinging on it. None of which should detract from what a complete twat the ref was

N'Diaye is clearly not a winger though. He showed flashes of skill, but so did onibuje tbf. He looks to me (or is at least built like) a central midfield 'enforcer', not an attacking outlet.

Some of the stick he got, whilst probably deserved, was properly ott by the crowd and the players. Douglas and Prutton were forever laying in to him. No wonder he got worse as the game went on.

Fucking pathetic performance, fucking awful result.

I think it must have been a push after he was tripped up. Somebody pushed back at their player.


We'd best beer up for Notts County!

Douglas should stick to his own game as game as he was awful today, as he has been for a few games. Prutton has been the better central mid player and that hurts me to say that. I hate prutton but he has grown on me the last 4 games.

Quite. He just looked terrified, clearly played out of position, didn't know what he was supposed to be doing and scared witless of making a mistake. So quite how people getting on his back was supposed to improve him was beyond me. But he was still terrible, even if it might not have been wholly his fault

Not to mention the free kick he gave to the Franchise keeper near the end when he slipped kicking the ball out of his hands.

The game was shite, the ref was shite, and Hart must have his eyes tested if that was three up front.

And Franchise and their 'fans' are still as plastic as ever.

Someone told me Graham Rix was there with Hoddle.

Rix is apart of Glenns Academy set up in Spain

does he look after the young girls?

It may be an urban myth, but isn't the age of consent in Spain something like 12?

Makes sense.

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Rix should be right at home then.

Fucking hell you lot are really trying to save me my hard earned next week aren't you? Depressing reading

If you have any ounce of sense in your bonce you will save your cash!

I don't know, it could be one of those "I was there" games, just for being so epicly bad

I particularly liked the bit of skill early in the second half after Ritchie had a shot across the face of goal where he got the ball on the byline, stood there clueless for about 10 seconds & then passed it straight to a Dongs player.
If only he had fallen over before getting to the ball we would have at least had a corner.

But I can forgive a player being shit, if he actually puts in a shift.
That's one of the reason that Matt Ritchie wins MOTM almost every game. Whether he plays well or not he is one of those players that tries non-stop.


Oh and a message to Paul Hart, "If you think we are actually playing with Three Strikers you need your fucking head examined".

Shocking,i tried my best but to be honest i left close to tears,did we have a shot on goal........................who cares now.

Get the beer down you leefer - you know it makes sense. We had one shot on goal for the record.

What about if I just look at it as a day on the piss with new friends? Now it's sounding better. How did Boo take it all Lee?

Sounds excellent to me...........looking forward to it.

Does anyone know the Poole score?

Me and meat left way before half time. Pub was way more tempting.

Brockenhurst  1  -  4  Hamble ASSC  still second from bottom

Poole won 3-0 at Bemerton to go 11 points clear with four games in hand over 2nd placed Winchester. Looks like only a monumental fuck up will stop them

:D

Hi Dave.....not good,Boo tried his best..........see you next week if you are up for it.

UP THE BADGERS.

Yeah, I'll sort train tickets tomorrow

It was a fucking depressing game, played by a bunch of depressing wankers, managed by a depressing cunt and reffed by a fucking idiot.  Anything else you need to know!!!

Are you still ok tho?

I think thats a fair summary but you probably need to add that it was watched by an increasingly depressed bunch of idiots who really should know better. I was on Hart's side until today.

Here's a completly radical guestimate based on 1 or 2 facts(?)
Hoddles academy is based in Spain and (not sure about this one?) has provided a side in the spanish 3rd/4th division. He has a number of out of work British managers as coaches (Graham Rix etc)

Perhaps he, or one of his coaches, is going to manage the side with a significant amount of his acedemy players? - Just a guess!

Just to lighten the mood a bit while I sup my beer, got the Spirit of Punk 1977 playing on the ipod, this comes on by John Cooper Clarke and for some strange reason I immediately thought of our players. I know I really shouldn't comment having not been to that many games this season, but it really should have been a season full of promise and excitement. Here we go anyway

Like a Night Club in the morning, you’re the bitter end.
Like a recently disinfected shit-house, you’re clean round the bend.
You give me the horrors
too bad to be true
All of my tomorrow’s
are lousy coz of you.
You put the Shat in Shatter
Put the Pain in Spain
Your germs are splattered about
Your face is just a stain

You’re certainly no raver, commonly known as a drag.
Do us all a favour, here... wear this polythene bag.

You’re like a dose of scabies,
I’ve got you under my skin.
You make life a fairy tale... Grimm!

People mention murder, the moment you arrive.
I’d consider killing you if I thought you were alive.
You’ve got this slippery quality,
it makes me think of phlegm,
and a dual personality
I hate both of them.

Your bad breath, vamps disease, destruction, and decay.
Please, please, please, please, take yourself away.
Like a death a birthday party,
you ruin all the fun.
Like a sucked and spat our smartie,
you’re no use to anyone.
Like the shadow of the guillotine
on a dead consumptive’s face.
Speaking as an outsider,
what do you think of the human race

You went to a progressive psychiatrist.
He recommended suicide...
before scratching your bad name off his list,
and pointing the way outside.

You hear laughter breaking through, it makes you want to fart.
You’re heading for a breakdown,
better pull yourself apart.

Your dirty name gets passed about when something goes amiss.
Your attitudes are platitudes,
just make me wanna piss.

What kind of creature bore you
Was is some kind of bat
They can’t find a good word for you,
but I can...
TWAT.

LYRICS © JOHN COOPER CLARKE

Fucking ace :D

I'll see your John Cooper Clark and raise you a Patrick Fitzgeralds Safety Pin Stuck In My Heart

I don't love you for your graveyard eyes
 I don't love you for your shaven thighs
 I just love you for that
 Beat-beat-beat-beat-beating
 
I don't love you for your tattered tie
 I don't love you, and I don't know why
 I just love you for that
 Beat-beat-beat-beat-beating
 

I've got a safety pin stuck in my heart
For you, for you

I don't love you for your professed hate
 I don't love you for your cards of fate
 I just love you for that
 Beat-beat-beat-beat-beating
 
I don't love you for your painted shoes
 I don't love you for your friends you never choose
 I just love you for that
 Beat-beat-beat-beat-beating
 
I've got a safety pin stuck in my heart
 For you, for you
 
I don't love you for your many reasons
 Propagandas, doctrines, treasons
 All I know's that
 Beat-beat-beat-beat-beating
 
I've got an ear inflamed on my dog chain
 Painted faces, painted names -
 My shirt - it's all that
 Beat-beat-beat-beat-beating
 
I've got a safety pin stuck in my heart
 For you, for you

Yeah it was, seemed to sum up everyone's mood perfectly

Nah, I'm fucking depressed!!!

Shit ain't right.

Just heard hnddld next manaher raaah those cunts ar shit framptn as quik as fukin harvy price

Quoted for posterity.

seconded

Just heard Hoddle next manager, raaaaaaah those cunts are shit.  Frampton as quick as fucking Harvey Price.

What do I win and why is Havey Price a quick fuck?

Is this written in Gaelic?

;D

I concur.

Frankie Boyle would love that post.

Had enough of this shower of shit , time to whack on the season review of 09/10 on and watch a proper team :)

I don't think I can remember a worse game than that. Management clueless, players clueless, officiald clueless. I came out of the game almost hoping that we were relegated already, so we can stop playing some of the senior players who won't be here next season, and clearly don't give a shit,  and start to field some of the fringe players who will be in the team next season.

Under Wilson we had a shit team but at least the wankers looked like they knew what they were meant to be doing. Under Hart it's all so completely pointless and clueless.

They might have looked like they knew what they were meant to be doing but they still didn't fucking do it. And reposting what I said on the other thread:

In fairness he's been given an impossible task. He's been asked to polish a turd and not surprisingly instead of finding the gleaming nugget of gold we hoped lay within, he's succeeded only in covering the hanky in shit. The damage was done long before Hart arrived and the change was made far too late for anyone to turn it round. You could cut this squad in half and find "Loser" written down the middle like Blackpool in a stick of rock.

Really? I must of missed that particular game. It's been the same shit all season.

What makes it worst is that we've won 1 game in 20 and still arn't relegated. 5 points from safety. What an utterly dire league it is. Says it all really.

Today was a disgrace.

The usual one or two put in a shift, and deserve a place in the squad next season (Caddis, Ritchie, LJF). Too many so-called senior pro's just picking up wages (Douggie, Prutton, JPM.)

Prutton is the biggest fucking joke in our squad tho. You've no doubt watched it already, but take a few minutes out of your life and have another decco at his pre-season interview.

His words are coming back to bite the cocky, Northern cunt on the arse now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3BYDY4hMFg

Cant help wondering what might have been if we'd kept Greer at the club for another season. I don't blame him for fucking off after we refused to extend his contract, but, equally, I dont blame Wilson for his departure after hearing Greer telling it like it was at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb95G-mo5-4&feature=related

It's funny that Prutton is this seasons scapegoat when in fact he hasn't even been our worst player. Makes me laugh at times.

Nah, just Dean after drowning his sorrows!

3 winners 2 placed including a 33/1 yesterday at newbury.
didn't even think about the town until i got in around 8pm and asked my lad the score.

Greer on leaving Wilson and the squad at the end of the interview- 'The players and the manager didnt want me to come'. By which he means go.

Is that now winless game 11 at home?

Didn't go yesterday.... Thankfully.

Is there anything substantial in terms of Hoddle? Guessing most is just speculation right? (trying to keep up!!!)

It was the fact we had a formation where players knew their role, whether they did it to their best ability? I think we know the answer.

Yesterday and for the past few games players just look lost.

Well I didn't go yesterday.  Going to post and then scroll back.

I have had a look at the stats and spoke to that know all, know fuck all tosser Swindon Maniac.

1 shot on target FFS!! (Bbc stats).

Negative formation and 'let's hold on for a 1 nil defeat' substitutions.

Ref was shit for both sides but as usual we've conceded a goal due to a dodgy decision.

If you thought we would escape due to last weeks result think again.

If you think Hart is the man for the job, think again.

See you next week and at Hillsborough....why?

you'd have easily cleaned up on 0-1 at the CG, but I guess you wanted an enjoyable afternoon out too.

At least united lost......the only highlight!

scape goat?

he's been getting stick because he has been shite this season.

The same way Smith, Lucas, Amankwaah, Caddis, Cuthbert, LJF, Frampton, Sheehan, Rose, JPM, Douglas, Prutton, Ritchie, AOB, Pericard, Dossevi, Benyon, Obika and god knows who else are getting stick - because they've all been shiiiiiiite.

I'd thought Hart was doing ok until yesterday.

Surely N'diaye's height means he should be playing through the middle?

We needed a pair up front playing close together, whenever Andrew did win a header he was completely isolated and there was no one near him to pick up the ball.

At 1-0 down we should have thrown caution to the wind and gone for it. We simply didn't.

We're going to need a new manager and pretty much a new team over the summer. We need to appoint the new permanent manager now with the amount of player movement required and Hart is not the man.

Our only rival who is a united is Oxford. Couldn't give a fuck about Premier League teams.

Hart is only doing what he's done at the other clubs he was brought in to save from relegation. Stopped them leakng 2/3 goals a game and picked up draws, and sneaked an occassional win. He only won 3 games in the relegation fight at Palace.

Trouble is they weren't in anything like the shit that we were when he took over.

Good for you..

But i love it when United lose...

So fuck off!

So what you are saying is Liverpool are your main team and Swindon your 2nd choice  :insane:

Fuck the Prem teams.

Whatever they do makes absolutely no fucking difference to us being relegated.

Exactly my point!

given most people hate man utd irrespective of whoever they support i don't think it's unfair to take some solace from that.
shall we ignore the flash's outburst and continue praising paul hart?

Their centre halves - didn't have to work hard at all. Our centre halves got consistently raped by that big lump up front.

Anyone else concerned we might be paying for more young unproven players from Hoddle's academy? Shouldn't Fitton be focusing on who to appoint for next season (or is this a done deal). If so, is the manager having a say as to who he can bring in and where the money is spent?

Yep, Ibhere had absolutely destroyed Frampton up until the sending off.

Paul Hart = Wanker.  Any small part of understanding/respect that I had left for the man due to what he has to work with disappeared after hearing his after match interview.

The man is quite obviously a complete tool that should be nowhere near any football club let alone ours.

Time for a complete change.  Fuck the same old names that have been banded about.  Let's go for the untried young upcoming manager, whether ex player or not, so that we can produce the next Paul Tisdale esk type of manager.  We haven't done that since the likes of Macari, Ardiles and Hoddle.  It worked back then, irrelevant of what they went onto achieve in their managerial careers.  They were good times, and apart from last year we haven't had many of them recently so time for a complete change in strategy from the board me thinks.  Fuck Hart, Fuck Trollope, fuck em all.....

Time to think outside the box Fitton, ask for patience from the fans and build something great that is sustainable for the long term, not just for 1 fucking season. 

If Fitton still believes that young unproven player are the way to go then he's actually a dickhead.

Yes DV

The current squad is full of young unproven players, isn't it?

alot of our best players in recent years have been young and unproven.

We should sign lots of players with proven League One experience like Michael Rose, Andy Frampton, David Prutton and Vincent Pericard.

I'd say proven was debatable....

..oh and as well as being 'proven' being good might help as well.

Bad business as well.

I mean all that money we made on Austin, simply not good enough!

I think this season has proved that youngsters can struggle to pick up a team when it isn't playing well.

That said Caddis and Ritchie have been two of the better players.

Just heard Hoddle was there, and I'm being to lazy to go through the thread.
Any reason he was there?

He wanted to explain to our players how evil they'd been in a previous life.

the majority of this squad should hang their heads in shame. The fans should voice their discontent after the final home game if they even contemplate coming out for applause

When you don't bring in adequate replacements it isn't.

Would we have been better off having not signed Austin in the first place?

That was the point I was making in response to Dave's post.

And besides, is it Fitton's responsibility to identify new players or is that perhaps the managers job?

I think they both take responsibility.

But Samdy

People here are saying that Fitton interferes too much, now it's being suggested that he doesn't interfere enough. (Or vice-versa)

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

My stance is that he "interferes" in the sense that his transfer policy is restrictive to building an experienced team.

If he'd won 3 games for us we'd be a few points clear of the drop zone!
We're in worse shit now than when Hart arrived.

Its less so interference and more so silly restrictions from what I can gather.

The example being not opening contract talks in the summer. Not interference as much but a restriction that ties a managers hand. Surely if he wants to sign an existing player up long term in the summer before the season starts he has ever right to start the negotiations.

I agree the contract policy backfired.

It does seem to me as though they may have learned from that though. Was Benyon not signed on a three year deal?

We might pick up a couple of wins and another draw form the last four games. That would make his record here almost identical to the one at Palace. It still won't be enough though.

I hope not. He's been poor so far - in his defence playing a bit part in a shit team but he has shown very little.

The length of the contracts arent a problem its when we renew existing ones. I know its a point that we've gone over 1,00000 times but its the best example.

Paynter gives us two decent years at Town. Brilliant, far from it! decent enough that we want to keep him, yes. After finishing 15th and Cox being sold - why not sit down an offer Paynter a 2 year extension?

Now its just my opinion but in July 09 if we'd offer Paynter a 2 year extension a slight pay rise and a slightly better goal scoring bonus he'd have signed. Then when he starts banging in the goal he's a Town player with 3 seasons left on his contract.

Instead we waited till 3 months into the season. He's had a good season and his agent will put the feelers out. Due to the good start Paynter no doubt wanted more money that he would have wanted 4 months previous because he's in a much stronger bargaining position after a good 3 months.

Would that have stopped him going? who knows....but he certainly wouldnt have gone on a free and could you see a team paying cash for Paynter...

All ifs and buts and a few maybes.

...and again, not sitting down with Greer when Brighton were interested was a mistake. By offering him new terms you make the decision wholly his. He turns it down and doesnt sign, we all know he wants to go and he become the villain. If he signs, great he wants to stay.

Have they learnt their mistakes dunno. We didnt sign Cuthbert or Douglas up longer term last summer and now can both go for free(ish). On the flip side I dont think it'll matter this summer because no one is worth offering an extension to anyway.

In July 09 Paynter hadn't done enough to earn a two year extension. It doesn't mean your point is less valid, just that Paynter is a poor example.

That said, it works both ways. Now we are down we can't afford players like Dossevi and Pericard pissing the budget away whilst sitting on a 2 or 3 year deal.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

He had done more than enough to earn an extension in the summer.

Some would have been livid if Paynter was offered a 2 year extension in 2009. Plenty of people still didn't want him in the side.

8 from 36 league appearances, and 11 from 42 league appearances. Not rubbish but fairly average.

That just his goal scoring record though. He added alot to the team that was there to see.

Maybe not 2 years, maybe just the one year extension so he had 2 years left to run. Either way I think the club were stupid not to offer him anything in July.

There's also the fact that his improved performance after that may have been down to him playing for a new contract.

Not saying that WOULD have been the case for Paynter, but there have been plenty of examples over the years of players losing a little bit after getting long term deals

Fair enough DV. Just saying that its not always easy to make the right call at the right time. We obviously didn't there, but with that goalscoring record I guess the club thought they had more time. But we did with Dossevi and a one year deal.


@Posh. Again not sure it's intentional. But JPM seems to fit that bill.

That's true.

As for Douglas, I do think he has missed having someone at the back that is comfortable bringing the ball out of defence (like you know who). 
It has meant that he inevitably drops deep to get the ball from the back four, which means that either he is isolated & ends up trying a 30 yard ball to (as someone else mentioned) a player that can't control it, or the rest of the midfield ends up dropping deep to support him.

Who's said Fitton isn't interfering enough? I think I must have missed something?

No we're not. In the 9 games he's been in charge, we've picked up 7 points, in the preceding 11, we got 3. It's not better enough but it is better

How many times has the club offered long term high salary contracts to players who subsequently turned to shit?

Fitton has got some things wrong but I reckon he's got the player contracts spot on. Sure we lose some decent players on free transfers, but we don't end up pissing away a small fortune on a player who can't even make the bench.

It also means you lose shit loads of players if they/you have a good season then you get relegated the following season.

fitton has always interfered.
for instance byrne was not wanted by wilson.this was because byrne had fittons ear, and wilson didn't like it(rightly so)
token job given by fitton against wilsons wishes.byrne never got near the first team squad and slagged every other coach off until he left.
he was jealous and bitter.
hardly gonna have harmony in the camp is it?
add to that the transfers etc,etc.

if fitton had been here years he would have fans calling for his head.
i dont expect this to be popular with alot of you, but its 100% what i believe.i've heard enough to be convinced it's fact.

I lost it with Hart at Plymouth when he wouldnt gamble..

Games at Exeter and yesterday just compound it!

I'd keep LJF. Cuthbert will leave, Frampton - no thanks.

I'm being serious. He's got good feet, clearly not a winger. Just needs to close players down more and he'll do fine.

Nobody else see Rose's middle finger salute to the Town End after the game then? Couldn't see it mentioned anywhere.

He was like a good Pericard. I hope Vince was sat in the stands taking notes.

Jesus. He was like a ridiculously large rabbit in headlights

He looked like a young kid in a shit team playing in a position that was completely alien to him, which is a stunning coincidence because...

This thread has turned into the hindsight thread.

Next year we need decent players that want to play for STFC.  Out of the current crop I would keep, Lucas, LJF, Flint, Ritchie and Ferry.

The rest either aren't good enough or can't be arsed so ship them out!

I'd agree with the sentiment. Puzzled as to why you include Ferry in the list. When he has played he's looked as half-arsed (and unfit) as the rest and I assume the reason he's played so little under either manager is a failure to apply himself in training. Which hardly indicates he's bursting to give his all for the club.

I think deep down we all think (wish, hope) that if he actually ever managed to get a decent run in the side he's turn back into the Ferry of last season.

Seems unlikely but he barely plays - no matter how wank Douglas and Prutton are.

In the Town End id say 95% just upped and left and didnt look back.

But if Rose did do that then thats typically pathetic from him.

But he does want to play for the club, he has just been ignored this season for some reason and is seriously unfit/overweight.  Whenever he is on the pitch though he performs like he cares, which is basically what we want all our players to do is it not?

Last years Ferry would be an asset in Lge2.  He would probably be the only player in that league that can play football the right way, although I do fear for his health with some of the cloggers down there.

He did, there were only around 20 people left in the TE.

Such a twat.

If Prutton is still here next season I will personally run on the pitch and kick him in the bollocks.

To have one manager consistently overlook a player can just be down to a bad relationship and no fault of the player. To have two do so suggests the problem's with the player. We know it's not lack of ability, so I'd guess it's lack of effort in training. If you do know for a fact he wants to play for the club, then maybe he could start showing it by training with sufficient effort to get fit and shift some of that weight. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to keep hold of the Ferry we had last season if he can be got back

BTW, well done to the DRS who outsung the Town End yesterday. Good support.

   :smugfu:

Im a Townender but, Town End give us a song? Where was it? Pathetic.

Plymouth were excellent yesterday and extremely unlucky to lose to Peterborough, Lewis saving a penalty in front of the Plymouth fans in the last seconds. The away terrace at Posh is amazing, some great noise by the PA fans. From what I have seen, Plymouth are miles better than we are, although I am sure we all know that anyway.

Yes, Rose seems like a bit of a tool. Although it was probably in response to the three young gentlemen at the front of the TE who were making wanker signs towards him, rather than just being an irrational signal to a near-empty stand. Not that it makes it ok.

Yeah it was certainly aimed at a person/group of people.

You just don't do it though, players like that have no place at this football club for me. Especially after the shit you've churned out week after week along with the majority of your team mates.

I'd keep Caddis - he seems to care and we'll need someone to play right midfield.

Whether the abuse is fair or unfair I won't comment but as a 'professional' footballer he should be able to take it and not react in that way.
I'd shove him training with the youths and fine him heavily. Then try and get shot at the end of the season

Yeah, I did forget Caddis actually, I'd agree that he should stay also.  Caddis & Richie in particular should look too good for lge 2

Well I think that`s probably it for me this season at the County Ground. I quite fancy going this Saturday but the `trouble` has other ideas. I have supported the Red Army for many, many years and am at a loss to really understand why and what has occured this season. Saturday was just unbelievably dreadful and unlike previous losses at home where I thought oh well this team will be ok when we go down...I am now begining to think that we might well struggle in League 2. Ritchie apart the rest were abject. That tall bloke was cluless and unfortunately I beleive that is the sign of things to come....the situation seems hopeless the light at the end of the tunnel is a fucking big train coming..... :no:

I still don't understand how charlie got sent to the stand he was in his technical area he might have spoke out of turn but that cunt kkaaarrrrlllll was out his area and was giving it all that. if anyone should have gone it should have been him, all the officials were wank.

Given that none of us know what was said, perhaps we're not in the best position to judge the ref's decision there?

Just got a text off a mate who's dad saw Jeremy Newton at the gym earlier, Newton had a massive black eye and said post match one of the Franchise staff said something to mcparland and it kicked off big time , and alot of the staff were fighting and jabo ibehre punched Newton

It might have had something to do with the fact that he went nose to nose with somebody squaring up.  That is what I heard anyway, I don't think he got sent for the verbals.  Just about the only person connected with STFC that showed any desire on Saturday.

Fighting at Witney,fighting on the touchline.....how about showing some bottle on the pitch.

Astoundingly piss poor on the pitch for passion shown on Saturday,not liking what Hart is bringing to club i am afraid,on and off the pitch.

It was Daggers for me, my season ticket has many "sheets" left in it. It's nice having a stress free Saturday again.