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Title: poor old leeds
Post by: sonic youth on Friday, August 3, 2007, 18:49:42

just saw on ssn that they will only be given permission to play in league one if they agree to a fifteen point deduction.

i'd love that.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, August 3, 2007, 18:55:04

Fuck me, let's hope they don't hear about our antics with the CVA!!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Red81 on Friday, August 3, 2007, 19:02:49

mint!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, August 3, 2007, 19:13:22

Quote from: "ronnie21"

Fuck me, let's hope they don't hear about our antics with the CVA!!

My thoughts exactly.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, August 3, 2007, 19:18:28

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Quote from: "ronnie21"

Fuck me, let's hope they don't hear about our antics with the CVA!!

My thoughts exactly.

Well shouldn't they be aware of that anyway????

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: fatbury on Friday, August 3, 2007, 19:37:23

way things are going we will be joining them on minus 15!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, August 3, 2007, 19:47:56

Quote from: "fatbury"

way things are going we will be joining them on minus 15!

No... just on minus 10!!

Seriously, this is due to Bates messing about with the Inland Revenue. The FL league said that they couldn't start the season still in admin, without a CVA being agreed. Due to pissing off the IR, the court case will not be heard until next month AFTER the start of the season.

Apparently Leeds are appealing the decision.

If I was the FL...I'd double it just to piss off Bates. :D

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, August 3, 2007, 19:54:47

Quote from: "OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR"

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Quote from: "ronnie21"

Fuck me, let's hope they don't hear about our antics with the CVA!!

My thoughts exactly.

Well shouldn't they be aware of that anyway????

They are OST

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, August 3, 2007, 20:08:53

I don't like this bit of the statement from the FL.....

"However, it is acknowledged the club did go into administration and has been unable to comply with the terms of the League's well-established insolvency policy.

Isn't this what we're doing by varying the CVA?

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: lebowski on Friday, August 3, 2007, 20:14:57

leeds are the first of the 40 odd teams that have gone into administration, to exit administration without agreeing a cva.

to be honest, that's about where i stopped having a clue about what's going on.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, August 3, 2007, 20:29:50

Well it certainly sends a message to our board that the FL are taking seriously the issues regarding admin, and that they will deduct points if necessary.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 3, 2007, 20:31:04

:shock: This decision has shocked me and is fucking terrifying given our sought after CVA variance.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, August 3, 2007, 20:31:20

Quote from: "Summerof69"

Well it certainly sends a message to our board that the FL are taking seriously the issues regarding admin, and that they will deduct points if necessary.

As if they give a flying two legged fuck !

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, August 3, 2007, 20:34:53

Quote from: "Summerof69"

Well it certainly sends a message to our board that the FL are taking seriously the issues regarding admin, and that they will deduct points if necessary.

Taking 10 points off rotheram last season shows the FL are taking things seriosley

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, August 3, 2007, 21:01:21

Quote from: "Fred Elliot"

Quote from: "Summerof69"

Well it certainly sends a message to our board that the FL are taking seriously the issues regarding admin, and that they will deduct points if necessary.

As if they give a flying two legged fuck !

Especially Diamond Mike !!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, August 3, 2007, 21:05:50

Found this on the Leeds Rivals site :

stoke fan here,this is only the beginning for you,i have it on sound advice that there is a lot more to come,i personally dont think you will be docked 15pts but i dont think that you will start the league season,what ken bates has done is not just trying to be clever with the F.L and trying to wipe the debts off by hook or crook but he has crossed over the line big style and the c.p.s are looking at bringing a case to court a.s.a.p and they say it is watertight and he will go to jail,what leeds the club(ken bates led) are trying to do is a massive fraud and the league will try to throw them out and give leeds a big ban,i hope it does'nt come to this but my info is spot on as you will find out soon(sorry cant say what job i do)

Very interesting if true.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Friday, August 3, 2007, 21:11:13

:shock:

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: axs on Friday, August 3, 2007, 21:13:11

send them to the conference. would ruin my away day to elland road though.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Friday, August 3, 2007, 22:45:34

Marching DOWN together....

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Tails on Friday, August 3, 2007, 23:03:25

Read this post on another forum, it's excellent and so very true aswell. It was written by an Oldham fan.

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Whilst most don't do very much in an organisational sense, most everyone digs as deep as they can when hard times come knocking.

There are fans also that will do more than 'one feckin thing about it', even down to those that do several things about it. I am not going to use my own club as an example, but instead cite Wrexham, Stockport and Bury as prime movers and shakers (excuse the pun) about what fan power could bring about if the fans can believe enough that they can carry off such a gargantuan task.

Doubtlessly, L**ds is a different kettle of fish, but only in one way. The debt level. Let us not beat around the bush, it was an astonishingly badly run club for almost a decade. Whilst that is no fault of the fans, how many were happy to see them digging themselves into an ever increasing black hole in search of the ultimate success? Not many stood up and said 'hang on a minute' when they were splashing money around all over the place. In fact one of the two things that grates with me is the ignorance of the whole situation when they were high flyers.

While 'us' minnows were scratching around in the dirt for pennies to try and meet the day to day running costs to keep our respective clubs afloat, they were out spending more on bloody goldfish for the official entrance at E****d Road.

It is no secret I don't like them, in fact, (and whilst hate is an often over used term, I do hate them) I am glad they are suffering, though not at the expense of their clubs survival. The one thing I will give them is I am glad they have survived this ordeal.

Now some may see that as a daft statement, but in my time as a formative football fan, L**ds v Oldham was a very big game for us both. Most of the woolly worriers will be too young to remember I expect.

I wish though that football fans would have had more time for the likes of Scarborough. A good decent club, though it probably meant very little to most in the town (probably too many L**ds fans in the town), it had a local identity and was lost forever because, in general, the footballing world was more interested in a spat between Bates, HMRC and the FL. Barely an eyelid was batted when the Seagulls went under.

Why?

L**ds are a big name. Yeah we all know that.

Do they though have any more right to our sympathies than Scarborough fans who lost their club for ever? Than those of York City who were owned by a charltan and fraudster who was only interested in financial gain and ploughed the club into none league, and much the same at Wrexham - a property developer bought and tried to sell them, it was only his own loose tongue that prevented another club going to the wall.

In my book no, they aren't even in the same league. L**ds United have been the biggest enemy of L**ds United for years. Consistently they have spent money they could ill afford to try and regain what they thought was their rightful place. No team has a right to any place in the leagues, you are where you deserve to be. One day the organisational people behind them will realise that is the truth and stop spending silly money.

I don't think they deserved to fold, mainly for the sake of the fans. I do think though that they deserve the points penalty. Whilst I expect a lot of Leeds fans will see this an an injustice, the fact that they still haven't agreed the CVA means that the league have bent over backwards to grant them back the share to be in a position to play, but they must suffer the consequences of such a gesture of goodwill.

I'm sorry, I can't feel any pity for them, my heartbreak goes out to the fans that I see as a more deserving cause. Fans that will never get the chances that L**ds have had (and still won't take) and now they have lost a lot, and in one case, everything.

Oh, the other thing that grates?

Lack of humility and willingness to accept that they are where they are because they are not good enough to be any higher. I think they would do well to take a leaf out of the book of the Nottingham Forest supporters. History means nothing, nor does how many fans you have. The only real statistic that counts is the present. They are where they deserve to be. Bottom of League One and fifteen points away from the next club.

Best team in the world my arse!

I hope that they survive, but I hope they get relegated. One blessing is that one of the first real emnities of my childhood can now re-commence.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, August 3, 2007, 23:08:30

What a great fucking post !

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, August 4, 2007, 02:26:15

Quote from: "Fred Elliot"

What a great fucking post !

The message is ok, but it's fucking awful. It jumps around to different unconnected points like an epileptic flea. I struggled to read that.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: JOHNNY REEVES on Saturday, August 4, 2007, 06:17:45

a message to the FA from Bates :old:

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, August 4, 2007, 07:31:12

Bates thinks he can play the Inland Rev, he deserves everything he gets. But the thing is a way to punish him and not the club as a whole.
On the other hand I cannot stand Leeds, but when thing like this happen it cannot be good because 100% certain other clubs will follow in the future

FFS though the media go on about Leeds being a 'big club', maybe years ago but now they are in the same league as Northampton and Cheltenham - get real

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Saturday, August 4, 2007, 08:13:11

Marching Down Together......

Enjoy the delights of Accrington and Dagenham next season! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Spencer_White on Saturday, August 4, 2007, 08:15:06

Leeds are still a big club. They should be bigger. But their away support will be awesome everywhere in this league. Its not about what league you play in.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Saturday, August 4, 2007, 08:29:40

It wouldnt surprise me if Leeds fans boycott away games as a up yours to the Football League.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: glos_robin on Saturday, August 4, 2007, 11:58:35

Quote from: "STFC_Loyalist"

It wouldnt surprise me if Leeds fans boycott away games as a up yours to the Football League.

Why? the position of the football league is spot on and strictly speaking are being kind in allowing them to start the season at all. The problem is Bates not the football league ...

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Summerof69 on Saturday, August 4, 2007, 12:28:22

Quote from: "glos_robin"

Quote from: "STFC_Loyalist"

It wouldnt surprise me if Leeds fans boycott away games as a up yours to the Football League.

Why? the position of the football league is spot on and strictly speaking are being kind in allowing them to start the season at all. The problem is Bates not the football league ...

That's correct Glos. Bates has been trying to play the system, and both HMRC and the FL have now stood up to Bates. Leeds might feel hard done by, but by the rules they should not be playing in the FL next season.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, August 4, 2007, 14:03:50

I won't begin doing anything close to lauging at them, we still have absolutely no idea what the FL thinks of our situation whereby we have failed to meet the CVA terms and are now seeking to vary them after the due date for the final payment.

I don't even remember something like the Leeds punishment being in the rules as such, so it seems the FL is happy to go beyond what we know. All we know is our situation is a new one for the FL. I imagine if we get 10 points deducted then Oxford fans will quickly be on to sites like this gloating and luaghing at us, just imagine that thought before sticking the fingers up at leeds.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Fred Elliot on Saturday, August 4, 2007, 16:51:18

well said Rob

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, August 5, 2007, 02:09:38

Regardless of our situation, given Ken Bates and the fuck hole decisions I sympathise with the club

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: RANDYFATTY on Sunday, August 5, 2007, 19:23:58

poor leeds

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: herthab on Sunday, August 5, 2007, 19:42:13

Fuck Leeds.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, August 5, 2007, 19:43:03

Jump Leeds

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, August 6, 2007, 08:22:06

Down Leeds!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: West Country LaLaLa on Monday, August 6, 2007, 11:43:59

Apart from the Wise thing, there isn't (and shouldn't really) be any real 'rivalry' between leeds and town. No real recent history of playing them, not local etc etc. If anything it should be the people in charge of leeds (bates, wise, poyet) that should, if that's the right way of looking at it, be targeted. Not the club as a name and fans/players itself.

I have a lot of sympathy for leeds, docked in effect 25 points (more than Juve and the Italian rest for matchfixing!) and they are hated by the majority. This mostly stems from the 70's 'dirty leeds' tag, stupid really when a good handful of fans weren't even born then and nobody from that era is still at the club or connected to its present day to day running in any way.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: neville w on Monday, August 6, 2007, 12:00:51

I'm probably being hopelessly optimistic here, but on the (massive) assumption that there is an agreement to the revised scheduling of the CVA, I really don't see how that can be breaking insolvency rules. If it's legal, surely that should be good enough for the League ?

I don't recall there being any evidence produced that we'd definitely get a penalty,(if we did, Roberts would probably miss it ) and the creditore would ostensibly still get their money.

Having said that though, I have just bought some rather nice rose tinted specs.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: RobertT on Monday, August 6, 2007, 12:17:48

Leeds didn't break any rules either Nev, not insolvency ones anyway. The bent FL rules, whereby you get punished for going into Insolvency related states. The rules are flexible, very flexible, and basically are there to prevent football clubs gaining an unfair advantage by rescheduling debts. In the real business world, doing this merely helps the business continue to struggle along and ensures the creditors get some money in most cases. The difference in football, and hence the rules, is financial performance is not directly linked to the success or otherwise of the club. A normal business aims to make a profit as it's goal, a football club will happily run at a loss (with a backer or by loading up debt) to ensure success on the pitch.

That's the rub, do the FL consider extending a CVA (never been done before by a football club under the FL rules) as a way of gaining an advantage. In theory it's a clear yes (we'd be stuffed on the playing budget if we had to shell out £900k this summer). Legally, nothing wrong with what the business is trying to do. The rules themselves don't suggest a punishment, but then again, they don't preclude one. So without guidance, it could go either way.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: neville w on Monday, August 6, 2007, 14:59:20

Clarity personified Rob, but the League has actually showed leniency as they could exclude Leeds altogether. Perhaps our poor treatment in the past might actually help us here ?

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:00:31

Apparently, Leeds have lost their appeal against the 15 point deduction.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Luci on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:02:28

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/6937521.stm

:shock:

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:04:25

Quote from: "BBC Article"

The chairmen of the other 71 Football League clubs voted "overwhelmingly" to sanction the club and then again to uphold the original punishment.

In both cases, the outcome was higher than a 75% majority vote.

Fooking hell, pretty comprehensive!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:14:00

Well thats them down then.... Bye Bye Wisey.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Tails on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:15:59

They won't go down.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:17:33

hhhaaa haaaaa

http://www.zen49395.zen.co.uk/pics/haha.jpg

I don't think they'll go down, but they may very well stay down.

*Apparently* the list of clubs that supported Leeds in their appeal were :

Bradford City
Burnley
Colchester United
Darlington
Gillingham
Ipswich Town
Nottingham Forest
Plymouth Argyle
Queens Park Rangers
Sheffield United
Sheffield Wednesday
Stockport County
Stoke City
Swindon Town
Watford
Wrexham

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:33:39

only 16 out of 71 :shock:

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:33:45

Why would Bradford and the Sheffield Clubs support them? They are rivals!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:36:12

why would we support them??

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:36:20

Quote from: "Tails"

They won't go down.

There's a bloody good chance they will now Tails Even with play-off form they'll be struggling tbh.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:39:49

Well if they come out of the blocks like we did last season they'll be on +3 in no time...

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:41:18

Quote from: "tans"

why would we support them??

Because they owe us money?

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 12:41:45

Quote from: "tans"

why would we support them??

Because we may well need their support soon

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 13:11:57

Quote from: "Batch"

Most of those clubs have serious debt problems. co-incedence? I think not.

In some ways I'm glad STFC supported the appeal, as given our problems it would have been perhaps the most stupid thing the board have ever done had they agreed with leeds deduction. Make enough decisions and you'll get one right eventually eh?

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 13:18:26

Clearly a turkey doesn't vote for Christmas.....this would indicate we're next up in line for a points deduction, and were hoping to avoid a precedent.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: herthab on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 13:20:49

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Clearly a turkey doesn't vote for Christmas.....this would indicate we're next up in line for a points deduction, and were hoping to avoid a precedent.

No it doesn't.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 13:26:32

Quote from: "herthab"

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Clearly a turkey doesn't vote for Christmas.....this would indicate we're next up in line for a points deduction, and were hoping to avoid a precedent.

No it doesn't.

So if nothing has changed by Saturday morning, will you be prepared to accept that the "takeover" is nothing more than a chimera ?

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 13:29:32

I have to add I have seen nothing of yet in the media confirming that list of clubs. It apparently came from the AP.

However for definite in excess of 75% were in favour of upholding the descision. So it fits.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: herthab on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 13:35:03

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Quote from: "herthab"

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Clearly a turkey doesn't vote for Christmas.....this would indicate we're next up in line for a points deduction, and were hoping to avoid a precedent.

No it doesn't.

So if nothing has changed by Saturday morning, will you be prepared to accept that the "takeover" is nothing more than a chimera ?

Depends what you mean by chimera.

The car?

I believe the mystery investors are real, whether that means we'll see a total takeover, I'm not so certain.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 13:43:19

Quote from: "herthab"

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Quote from: "herthab"

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Clearly a turkey doesn't vote for Christmas.....this would indicate we're next up in line for a points deduction, and were hoping to avoid a precedent.

No it doesn't.

So if nothing has changed by Saturday morning, will you be prepared to accept that the "takeover" is nothing more than a chimera ?

Depends what you mean by chimera.

The car?

I believe the mystery investors are real, whether that means we'll see a total takeover, I'm not so certain.

Chimera....a fantasy, namely that by Saturday a takeover will be completed that will enable at least the CVA to be paid.

Personaly I don't expect to be going to Northampton talking about a bright new dawn.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: herthab on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 13:46:37

Thanks for the definition. Glad to see my attempt at humour wasn't lost on you.

I don't know about Saturday, but how can anyone not believe there are new investors?

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 13:55:44

Quote from: "herthab"

Thanks for the definition. Glad to see my attempt at humour wasn't lost on you.

I don't know about Saturday, but how can anyone not believe there are new investors?

In the same way I don't believe in Santa Claus....UFO's...ghosts or the Loch Ness Monster.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Tails on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 13:57:57

Now Leeds fans are blaming all other chairman of the football league for this, and telling everyone how they are gonna storm their way back to the Premiership in 5 years.

Absolutely priceless. What the fuck were they expecting?

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: herthab on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 14:00:22

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Quote from: "herthab"

Thanks for the definition. Glad to see my attempt at humour wasn't lost on you.

I don't know about Saturday, but how can anyone not believe there are new investors?

In the same way I don't believe in Santa Claus....UFO's...ghosts or the Loch Ness Monster.

We could spend all afternoon disagreeing with each other.

As for ghosts, UFO's and the Loch Ness Monster, there's not substantive proof that they don't exist, is there?

Santa Claus is obviously real!

Next you'll be telling me that the Easter Bunny is an American invention with no factual basis!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: pauld on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 14:02:47

Quote

In Greek mythology, the Chimera (Greek Χίμαιρα (Chímaira); Latin Chimaera) is a monstrous creature of Lycia in Asia Minor, which was made of the parts of multiple animals. Chimera was one of the offspring of Typhon and Echidna and sister of such monsters as Cerberus and the Lernaean Hydra.

Hmm, a monstrous hybrid made up of the parts of various animals .....

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Bushey Boy on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 14:06:28

does teh 15 point thing stand then?

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 14:15:09

Quote from: "pauld"

Quote

Hmm, a monstrous hybrid made up of the parts of various animals .....

I guess you're alluding to, the potentially multi headed monster that may be filling the Boardroom as from tomorrow...

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: pauld on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 14:20:38

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Quote from: "pauld"

Quote

Hmm, a monstrous hybrid made up of the parts of various animals .....

I guess you're alluding to, the potentially multi headed monster that may be filling the Boardroom as from tomorrow...

Moi? No I was referring to a Greek-inspired monster

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 14:27:22

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

does teh 15 point thing stand then?

oh for fucks sake Asher, keep up will you?!

(yes)

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Bushey Boy on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 14:30:44

Theres so much shit on here just wanted asimpley yes or no! Cheers Crusty The Clown (is that his name on the simpsons?)

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 17:28:03

He's an arrogant Leeds statement....

http://www.leedsunited.com/page/NewsroomDetail/0,,10273~1088101,00.html

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 17:35:51

Quote from: "Summerof69"

He's an arrogant Leeds statement....

http://www.leedsunited.com/page/NewsroomDetail/0,,10273~1088101,00.html

...that was composed and delivered at the heat of the moment!

Leeds Utd 0 Taxman 1 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Tails on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 17:41:42

Any guesses as to who wrote that!?

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 17:43:48

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Theres so much shit on here just wanted asimpley yes or no! Cheers Crusty The Clown (is that his name on the simpsons?)

It's Krusty The Klown :wink:

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 18:11:01

Fucking typical of him if you ask me

Thinks he is god fucking almighty

Sorry for their fans immensely but so pleased that it has happened to him

WHAT A CUNT !

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 19:42:28

Dennis Wise

"laughable", "they've cut me balls off" - "and it's just not funny"

At least Wise is still making the puns!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 20:39:12

Quote from: "Fred Elliot"

Thinks he is god fucking almighty

Can't argue with that quote.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: OneAndrewFitton on Thursday, August 9, 2007, 20:58:07

Bates is a total wanker! what goes around comes around, it's about time he got loads of shit!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Power to people on Friday, August 10, 2007, 07:26:39

Quote from: "Tails"

Any guesses as to who wrote that!?

Sounds like a Diamandis inspired statement to me

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Luci on Friday, August 10, 2007, 07:57:07

Quote from: "Rich Pullen"

Dennis Wise

"laughable", "they've cut me balls off" - "and it's just not funny"

At least Wise is still making the puns!

But did he really think that they would win the 15 point deduction appeal? Sounds like he should have prepared for the worst!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, August 10, 2007, 09:06:36

How the hell did he think he would get away with playing HMRC?!!!

I'm liking the bit about focusing on their 'promotion campaign' though!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Tails on Friday, August 10, 2007, 09:14:02

We actually voted in Leeds' favour!

Leeds fans are boycotting programmes and food from the teams in L1 who voted against them.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Luci on Friday, August 10, 2007, 09:19:15

Quote from: "Tails"

We actually voted in Leeds' favour!

Leeds fans are boycotting programmes and food from the teams in L1 who voted against them.

They're idiots as they'll miss out on some of the best Chicken and Balti pies!

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: neville w on Friday, August 10, 2007, 09:25:43

Quote from: "Tails"

We actually voted in Leeds' favour!

Leeds fans are boycotting programmes and food from the teams in L1 who voted against them.

What are they going to do - we'll never let them into the ground with a 'snap' tin

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: neville w on Friday, August 10, 2007, 09:28:48

Quote from: Colin Todd

Quote from: "Batch"

hhhaaa haaaaa

http://www.zen49395.zen.co.uk/pics/haha.jpg

Most of those clubs have serious debt problems. co-incedence? I think not.

I'd imagine you could come to the same conclusion if you looked at a list of clubs who voted for the punishment.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, August 10, 2007, 10:26:15

Quote from: "neville w"

Quote from: "Tails"

We actually voted in Leeds' favour!

Leeds fans are boycotting programmes and food from the teams in L1 who voted against them.

What are they going to do - we'll never let them into the ground with a 'snap' tin

Well we voted in their favour (allegedly) so it doesn't affect us.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: red macca on Friday, August 10, 2007, 11:15:56

Quote from: "Tails"

We actually voted in Leeds' favour!

Leeds fans are boycotting programmes and food from the teams in L1 who voted against them.

How do we know that though

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: land_of_bo on Friday, August 10, 2007, 11:24:31

Can someone email/phone/text that fat cunt Moyles? I can't be arsed.

He needs telling it was the Football League that dished out the punishment, not the FA, and that 71 football league clubs voted on whether to uphold the penalty or not. The FA administer the Premier League, a league you are no longer in.

He needs telling it's a 15 point penalty, not a "ban" or "fine".

He then needs to be told to STFU, play some records, remove his head from his arse and get to the fucking gym.

I think someone needs to spell out in burgers and sausages what Leeds and Bates did wrong, I think that is the only way he will digest it.

Thanks.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, August 10, 2007, 11:41:47

Quote from: "land_of_bo"

He then needs to be told to STFU, play some records, remove his head from his arse and get to the fucking gym.

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

And take Ken Bates with him.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: lebowski on Saturday, August 11, 2007, 07:13:57

clubs that backed leeds are:

Bradford City
Burnley
Colchester United
Darlington
Gillingham
Ipswich Town
Nottingham Forest
Plymouth Argyle
Queens Park Rangers
Sheffield United
Sheffield Wednesday
Stockport County
Stoke City
Swindon Town
Watford
Wrexham

Source is Press Association.

this is taken wholesale from leeds' rivals site.

any theories as to why our board may have supported leeds' appeal?

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Whits on Saturday, August 11, 2007, 07:53:02

Quote

any theories as to why our board may have supported leeds' appeal?

because we will be there shortly.....in the same position'ish

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: herthab on Saturday, August 11, 2007, 08:01:03

Quote from: "Whits"

Quote

any theories as to why our board may have supported leeds' appeal?

because we will be there shortly.....in the same position'ish

Will you be wearing your hooded cape and carrying your scythe to the game today Whits?

:D

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Luci on Friday, September 7, 2007, 10:10:12

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/6983220.stm

Just to add to it, a new sanction :o

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, September 7, 2007, 10:12:44

"All monies owed to other football clubs and members of the football family have been met in full.

Interesting sentence there !!!

That means we have received all our compo

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, September 7, 2007, 10:24:45

They probably just don't consider us a club... :-))(

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Chubbs on Friday, September 7, 2007, 10:24:51

Quote from: "Fred Elliot"

"All monies owed to other football clubs and members of the football family have been met in full.

Interesting sentence there !!!

That means we have received all our compo

no fred, it means they have paid it to us, who pocketed it is another question.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Power to people on Friday, September 7, 2007, 13:00:27

So if the FA have barred Leeds for non payment, why are they allowed in the FA Cup as that is controlled by the FA ?

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, September 7, 2007, 13:03:33

Prob because of the balls up that insued when Utd opted out to take part in the world club champs.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 7, 2007, 13:08:40

Quote

United will still be able to compete in all competitions, including the FA Cup.

However, they will be unable to vote at any FA general meetings or receive FA Cup final tickets, as other clubs do.

Oh my god, those FL bastards. How will Leeds survive.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, September 7, 2007, 13:53:19

Quote from: "Batch"

Quote

United will still be able to compete in all competitions, including the FA Cup.

However, they will be unable to vote at any FA general meetings or receive FA Cup final tickets, as other clubs do.

Oh my god, those FL bastards. How will Leeds survive.

What if Leeds were (somehow) to get to the final? :?

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, September 7, 2007, 14:51:44

Quote from: "reeves4england"

What if Leeds were (somehow) to get to the final? :?

Yes and the knock Sheff Utd out in the semi's

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: genf_stfc on Friday, September 7, 2007, 14:55:30

....having beaten Man Utd in the quarters when they had no fit strikers except Tevez, but Fergie decides to protect him for the premiership and play john O'shea up front instaed

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: lebowski on Friday, September 7, 2007, 17:35:55

did anyone else notice that leeds manager dennis wise won manager of the month for august?

leyton orient manager martin ling had an identical record, whilst being in charge of a team who many have down for relegation battlers. surely that is a better achievement than someone whose playing budget is 3 or 4 times more?

i think that award was a pathetic sweetener by the football league.

Title: poor old leeds
Post by: pumbaa on Friday, September 7, 2007, 17:37:53

Quote from: "lebowski"

And the annoying little twerp had the nerve to whinge about it too.

http://www.thetownend.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23243

:roll:

Thetownend.com

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