Wilson Out

[Don Rogers Shop]

Nope i think people assumed when they were told that Best holdings were funded it that we paid fee's.

[Simon Pieman]

We spent a combined £315,000 on transfers in 07/08

[Don Rogers Shop]

What players were actually signed again mate during that year? I can't remember

[Simon Pieman]

McGovern
Paynter
Cox
McNamee

The rest were all unattached/bosman deals.

[jimbob]

not that I really see the point in this topic/debate but having read it, I'm pretty sure we paid for McGovern.

In respect of Wilson, I think the divide between the fans has come as a result of some (including me) expecting him to turn it around sooner, whereas others have lost patience earlier. Stating the obvious but....
Has he become a 'bad' manager overnight? Unlikely.
Is it easier to manage/give a team-talk to a winning side? Yes.
Has he lost the confidence in himself and the players and thus struggles to manage/motivate a losing side? Yes.
Is he a nearly man and will remain to be so for the rest of his career managing at no higher than League 1 level?Probably.
Onto the question of should he be sacked?....if his contract is up at the end of the season and the board have in mind A N Other to manage us, do they let him loose with some cash in this transfer window bringing in players he wants that the new manager may not fancy?or do they hope we can survive in League 1 with what we have?
I don't know what the answer is (clearly) and I can't see them sacking him or him walking away.So as hard as it is to accept such a decline since last season, lets at least attempt to get positive and get behind whatever team he picks on Tuesday.

[DiV]

McGovern and Paynter were both under contract else where when we signed then, so would have thought we would have had to have paid something.

[Lumps]

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Transfers.asp?Season=2007-2008

suggests fees were paid for both Paynter and JP and the site isn't often wrong

[Simon Pieman]

An undisclosed fee could also be £0 anyway.

[Lumps]

An undisclosed fee could also be £0 anyway.

True enough, but it also means that the handful of people having a tantrum that someone is "making figures up" are also talking out of their respective arses.

Undisclosed fee means exactly that, we don't know and aren't likely to find out anytime soon

[Simon Pieman]

True enough, but it also means that the handful of people having a tantrum that someone is "making figures up" are also talking out of their respective arses.

Undisclosed fee means exactly that, we don't know and aren't likely to find out anytime soon

Yes, the only thing we can see is how much the total cost of transfers was for a particular season.

[DiV]

Plus, neither signed by Mr. Wilson anyway.

[Don Rogers Shop]

Plus, neither signed by Mr. Wilson anyway.

N

True enough, but it also means that the handful of people having a tantrum that someone is "making figures up" are also talking out of their respective arses.

Undisclosed fee means exactly that, we don't know and aren't likely to find out anytime soon

I can guarantee you i am not talking out my arse.

[pauld]

True enough, but it also means that the handful of people having a tantrum that someone is "making figures up" are also talking out of their respective arses.

Undisclosed fee means exactly that, we don't know and aren't likely to find out anytime soon

Unless I've completely misunderstood what you mean, doesn't it actually prove their point? We don't know what the fees are (if any) and aren't likely to find out, so anyone quoting a figure is making it up? I should add I don't really give a flying fuck one way or the other, just curious what your logic is here

[leefer]

not that I really see the point in this topic/debate but having read it, I'm pretty sure we paid for McGovern.

In respect of Wilson, I think the divide between the fans has come as a result of some (including me) expecting him to turn it around sooner, whereas others have lost patience earlier. Stating the obvious but....
Has he become a 'bad' manager overnight? Unlikely.
Is it easier to manage/give a team-talk to a winning side? Yes.
Has he lost the confidence in himself and the players and thus struggles to manage/motivate a losing side? Yes.
Is he a nearly man and will remain to be so for the rest of his career managing at no higher than League 1 level?Probably.
Onto the question of should he be sacked?....if his contract is up at the end of the season and the board have in mind A N Other to manage us, do they let him loose with some cash in this transfer window bringing in players he wants that the new manager may not fancy?or do they hope we can survive in League 1 with what we have?
I don't know what the answer is (clearly) and I can't see them sacking him or him walking away.So as hard as it is to accept such a decline since last season, lets at least attempt to get positive and get behind whatever team he picks on Tuesday.

I like this.

[A Gent Orange]

I like this.

I do too. Good points, well made.