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Title: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:16:54
Hodgson gone.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Rich Pullen on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:17:58
Oh I bet they're awfully excited.

Big gamble to appease the fanbase by appointing Dalglish.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:20:00
can't see liverpool making any real improvement.their problems run deeper than changing the manager i think.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Rich Pullen on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:21:15
But Liverpool F.C. operate on magic and mystique.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:22:08
and delusion


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Processed Beats on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:22:15
Feel sorry for Woy. Very, very good manager.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Processed Beats on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:24:20
How can you tell Roy Hodgson isn't Scouse?

He'll be looking for a job on Monday morning.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Rich Pullen on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:30:09
and delusion

AKA magic and mystique :)


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: oxford_fan on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:36:42
Should have kept Hodgson. 7 wins out of 20 is bad form for Liverpool but I think he would have done a good job given time.

Houllier, on the other hand, should definitely be relieved of his post. Villa are all over the shop under him.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:37:53
The Best Fans In The World (TM) strike again.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:43:09
Hahahahahahaha, wheeling that managerial has been dinosaur Dalglish out is real desperation.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Rich Pullen on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:46:41
Perhaps he'll bring Paul Dalglish in to? Give him some work experience after his poor managerial debut with Tampa Bay.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 12:02:28
can't see liverpool making any real improvement.their problems run deeper than changing the manager i think.

You are spot on there.

Kenny wont make a huge difference because of the shit going on there. Knee jerk reaction from a club in trouble, the board trying to win back a few of the fans by getting in a man that most Liverpool fans want as the new manager.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 12:06:26
It's not a popular belief with Liverpool fans, but their demise from the best team in England can be traced back to Kenny Dalglish.

He took over the best team in the country, but didn't continue what Liverpool were always good at and replace players before they reached their sell by date. His team got old together & once he spotted that he walked.

People will point to a successful time at Blackburn, but remember they spent big (for the time), and he had a very good coach with him.

He will have the fans on his side, but will be interesting to see IF he can improve them.

At least they weren't mad enough to go back to Rafa (It's not my fault it's his fault) Benetez :D


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 12:09:51
Dalgliesh? A manager totally out of touch with the modern game who has been out of work for years now. Oh dear. I can see them flirtling with relegation to be honest. As for Hodgson the way that jobs seem to be coming up thick and fast I can't see him being out of work long. West Ham or Villa is probably a good bet for him.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: leefer on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 12:13:54
Or maybe back to Fulham.....Hughes is under pressure.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 12:14:19
Or maybe back to Fulham.....Hughes is under pressure.

They've had a few decent results of late though.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: The_Plagiarist on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 12:14:42
I feel an english football is fucked rant coming on

I'm going out for a walk down roves farm oooh arrrr


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: A Gent Orange on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 12:24:15
I worry it will be a bit like when Keegan came back (no not all the stuff about quiting every two minutes) having been out of the game ie presenting a transfer list of incredibly obvious superstars and players who were good last time he was in charge.

To make a serious point he is going to have to rely on his coaches and scouts so much that really those appointments will be as significant as a new manager anyway.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: donkey on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 14:03:55
It's not a popular belief with Liverpool fans, but their demise from the best team in England can be traced back to Kenny Dalglish.

He took over the best team in the country, but didn't continue what Liverpool were always good at and replace players before they reached their sell by date. His team got old together & once he spotted that he walked.

People will point to a successful time at Blackburn, but remember they spent big (for the time), and he had a very good coach with him.

I thought I was the only one in world who thought that.  Thank you Posh, I am not alone.  Also, Souness did try to get good young players in.  Liverpool fans aren't too keen on hearing that either.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 14:28:46
So I take it I'm not the only one who thinks Dalglish is hideously overrated as a manager then?


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: donkey on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 14:31:52
So I take it I'm not the only one who thinks Dalglish is hideously overrated as a manager then?

Nope. :toocool:


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 14:35:43
Nope. :toocool:

+1


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 14:37:56
+1

+1


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 14:44:10
I can't stand Dalglish - cheating Jock wanker.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Rich Pullen on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 14:49:19
The Blackburn Rovers era was purely financial. Anyone argues against that is crazy because they wouldn't have attracted Dalglish there in the first place otherwise.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 14:54:50
It's not a popular belief with Liverpool fans, but their demise from the best team in England can be traced back to Kenny Dalglish.

He took over the best team in the country, but didn't continue what Liverpool were always good at and replace players before they reached their sell by date. His team got old together & once he spotted that he walked.

People will point to a successful time at Blackburn, but remember they spent big (for the time), and he had a very good coach with him.

He will have the fans on his side, but will be interesting to see IF he can improve them.

At least they weren't mad enough to go back to Rafa (It's not my fault it's his fault) Benetez :D

Would agree with much of that apart for the reason for walking; he cited health and personal reasons. A substantial part of his autobiography lays out the emotional toll that Hillsborough subsequently had on him and his family. It was this that led him to quit, understandably.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Summerof69 on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 15:16:02
Nope. :toocool:

I'll like to join the consensus.

Dalglish's last job was at Celtic was the 'dream team' with John Barnes...and we all know what happened there!!!

All I know is that Man U fans will be pissing themselves with laughing.

Of course Rafa Benitez is available....considering just about all the players there were his signings anyway.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: mrverve on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 15:55:39
It's not a popular belief with Liverpool fans, but their demise from the best team in England can be traced back to Kenny Dalglish.

He took over the best team in the country, but didn't continue what Liverpool were always good at and replace players before they reached their sell by date. His team got old together & once he spotted that he walked.

People will point to a successful time at Blackburn, but remember they spent big (for the time), and he had a very good coach with him.

He will have the fans on his side, but will be interesting to see IF he can improve them.

At least they weren't mad enough to go back to Rafa (It's not my fault it's his fault) Benetez :D

Souness and the spice boys were the undoing of Liverpool.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: adje on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 16:15:54
I think Ruddock was the cause of the Liverpool decline as he was of ours.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: pauld on Saturday, January 8, 2011, 17:01:40
I think Ruddock was the cause of the Liverpool decline as he was of ours.
I think in both cases the rot had started long before El GiantShorts turned up


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 12:00:15
He did take Newcastle to a second place finnish and a cup final in the late 90s.

But yes, all these Liverpool fans saying 'it can only get better' make me laugh. You sure?!


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 12:37:59
Feel sorry for Woy. Very, very good manager.

Not sure there is any need to feel sorry for him, apparently he got a £7.5m payoff. Think most people forget that when a manager gets sacked or leaves by mutual consent (ie sacked) they get their contract paid up.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 12:40:23
Fickle Liverpool supporters get their way. Not I good move I think but time will tell (I bet they win today now I said that!)


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: thedarkprince on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 14:07:35
Penalty awarded against them inside 35 seconds.  Gerrard sent off for a two footed lunge.  Same shit, different gaffer.  Couldn't happen to a nicer team.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 14:38:53
Shocking penalty decision, no way would have been sending off if Utd player. Hodgson average manager at best when working with average clubs. No way would he ever be in charge of Utd, Chelsea or Arsenal so see no reason while Liverpool fans should accept him either. Rememember Hodgsons appointment  was by the outgoing Hicks & Gillette regime. Daglish hero in Liverpool fans eyes and will keep them happy until end of season until they appoint a longer term solution.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Processed Beats on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 14:41:36
Gerrard had to go. As soon as both feet leave the ground you may as well start walking. For both incidents, i'd have been shouting for a penalty and the red card if it were Swindon, so'm not too fussed.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 14:50:41
Although Rafaels 2 footed lunge in the build up went unoticed


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Bennett on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 14:54:26
i'd have said that rafaels stampy lunge was a foul as well, howard webb hasn't helped this game


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: thedarkprince on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 14:54:40
I think lunge may be pushing it a bit.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 15:01:16
ok two footed jump


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: thedarkprince on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 15:07:27
Didn't look to me like his feet left the ground so for me it was okay.  Anyway i'd be more ashamed if I was that Mereiles for pussying out of going through Rafael. 


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: thedarkprince on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 15:07:51
Plus it was harder to spot in real-time.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: thedarkprince on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 15:48:47
Anyone else think Jim Beglin is a cunt?


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 16:43:23
Yes.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 17:14:52
Also yes.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 18:20:25
I concur also


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: pauld on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 18:26:25
At least they take defeat gracefully

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1819: Breaking news: The Football Association has opened an investigation after Liverpool winger Ryan Babel posted a digitally altered picture on Twitter of referee Howard Webb wearing a Manchester United shirt.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 19:44:46
It seems there is no need for investigation


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 20:53:56
Anyone else think Jim Beglin is a cunt?

good pundit.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Benzel on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 21:00:29
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Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 21:43:46
"And there was laughter across the land"  :D


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Nemo on Monday, January 10, 2011, 01:38:53
That's fucking class.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, January 10, 2011, 08:30:42
I've sent it to every Liverpool fan I know.

This is my favourite line:

"Now the bounty of the Lord is gone, for he hath spunked it on absolute garbage"

:D


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, January 10, 2011, 10:35:49
Brilliant.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: herthab on Monday, January 10, 2011, 11:40:14
Hope he does well, I remember him playing for a Rampant Liverpool side in the late 70's-mid 80's and was successful there as a manager (albeit taking over from the Shankly dynasty).

Don't really get the Liverpool hatred on here, must be a lot of closet Man Utd fans around?


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Benzel on Monday, January 10, 2011, 11:55:44
Oh c'mon that piece is pure comedy.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, January 10, 2011, 12:25:28
I think the hatred of Liverpool is more towards their twatty fans than actual hatred of Liverpool FC.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: pauld on Monday, January 10, 2011, 13:08:50
To make a serious point he is going to have to rely on his coaches and scouts so much that really those appointments will be as significant as a new manager anyway.

Made a good start on that front anyway:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9353787.stm


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, January 10, 2011, 16:13:14
The dislike of Liverpool for the older generation is probably akin to the dislike of Man Utd now.

They were the dominant team for many years, and didn't their mong fans like to remind everyone else of it.

The media at the time had a fascination with Liverpool that went beyond the arse licking given to Man Utd now, and their fans weren't hooligans (like everyone else), they were just harmless scalleys.

I don't wish them any harm, but relegation & 10 years in the lower leagues would be a good start :D

And no, I'm not a fan of Man Utd, closet or otherwise


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, January 10, 2011, 17:10:42
I think the hatred of Liverpool is more towards their twatty fans than actual hatred of Liverpool FC.

It's 100% my reason for disliking them and hoping for their relegation...


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Monday, January 10, 2011, 17:17:42
So I take it I'm not the only one who thinks Dalglish is hideously overrated as a manager then?

He may have been out of the game for some time, but his record when he was in it stands up. He began managing in England in 1985 and last did so in 1998. You can chuck promotion with Blackburn in 1991 in with this lot too if you like, but either way it's a fuck sight more than Hodgson has ever done.

First Division/Premier League
Champions: 1986, 1988, 1990, 1995
Runners-Up: 1987, 1989, 1994, 1997

FA Cup
Winners: 1986, 1989
Runners-Up: 1988, 1998


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, January 10, 2011, 17:26:09
I think the hatred of Liverpool is more towards their twatty fans than actual hatred of Liverpool FC.

35,000 v Bolton on NYD.....not many more than the likes of Leicester and Derby, who've struggled for years, not just a couple of months.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, January 10, 2011, 18:09:17
35,000 v Bolton on NYD.....not many more than the likes of Leicester and Derby, who've struggled for years, not just a couple of months.

Theyve got loads of southern fans who are very very fickle. They are far more dependent on the southern fans to fill the ground than any of the other big North West teams.

Liverpool have always had trouble selling out the less attractive mid week fixtures.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: santasdead on Monday, January 10, 2011, 18:19:59
Theyve got loads of southern fans who are very very fickle. They are far more dependent on the southern fans to fill the ground than any of the other big North West teams.


It's not just the southern fans, the majority of fans from Liverpool are fickle as well. I know plenty of scousers who don't go just because Liverpool havn't been performing. Most wanted Rafa out and Hodgson in a long time before it happened, but as soon as it happened and Hodgson was, well, shit they wanted Rafa back.

I don't think they are more dependent on southern fans compared to other NW teams though - especially united - but they do rely heavily on groups coming from Ireland and Scandinavia for the weekend games.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, January 10, 2011, 18:28:52
I don't think they are more dependent on southern fans compared to other NW teams though - especially united - but they do rely heavily on groups coming from Ireland and Scandinavia for the weekend games.

United sell out fixtures mid week, even pretty unnatractive ones. And remember a sell out at Old Trafford is nearly 30,000 more than a sell out at Anfield.

They got 73,000 at home against Bursaspor this season. Liverpool's attendance against Napoli was a bit of an embaressment for English football, Napoli brought a massive following, had massive groups in the home end, and it still wasnt a sell out.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, January 10, 2011, 18:47:43
I don't think they are more dependent on southern fans compared to other NW teams though - especially united - but they do rely heavily on groups coming from Ireland and Scandinavia for the weekend games.

There was an interesting survey a few years back about the support in the Premier League. One of the points that came out in the article was the percentage of fans (season ticket holders I think) that lived more than 20 miles from the stadium. 

Surprisingly this number was higher for Liverpool, than it was for Man Utd.

I'm guessing it's partly due to the high number of Man Utd fans who have never been anywhere near Old Trafford


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 21:56:04
 King Kenny has made a difference....


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 21:57:54
Wonder what kind of odds you'd have got in August on Blackpool doing the double over Liverpool this season?


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 21:58:31
Or Blackpool claiming a Europa league spot? They're 7 behind Chelsea with a game in hand *snigger*.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Summerof69 on Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 22:00:01
King Kenny has made a difference....

Dalglish out...

I'd laugh if Everton also beat them this weekend !!


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Lumps on Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 22:09:10
Wel, as Liverpool's season seems to be over I guess he can fuck off home...


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, January 13, 2011, 11:10:26
Bring back Shankly


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, January 13, 2011, 11:38:48
Surely a better long term manager for Liverpool would have been Martin O Neil I think 'King' Kenny has been out of the game too long and is too long in the tooth


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, January 13, 2011, 17:20:16
King Kenny is perfect. With any luck he'll finish the job Woy started and take the fucking bin dippes down.


Title: Re: Dalgleish in till end of season
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Monday, February 7, 2011, 16:06:32
Was thinking of this thread yesterday afternoon for some reason ;-)