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Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: STFCere on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 17:44:45
"Swindon deputy chairman Mark Devlin has revealed that the club has recently been in talks with potential new investors.

He said: "There is nothing concrete at the moment but we certainly hope to get them on board sooner rather than later."

SOURCE: WDP

To all those that doubted my exclusive on the Alan Ball consortium, here you go.

Once AGAIN, you heard it here first. Alan Ball and another ex england international will invest in Swindon in the near future.

I await your 'bollocks' and other similar comments.  8)


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 17:46:36
As long as Iffy stayes at the helm, then great.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: STFCere on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 17:48:01
im sure he would, although when new guys come in there always keen to have their own manager in charge, lets hope iffy stays hes definately earnt his keep


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 17:50:29
I do NOT want sqeaky bollocks in charge of first team affairs :evil:


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: STFCere on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 17:55:48
how about sqeaky bollocks plus a £1m transfer kitty?!


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Turbo on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 18:08:37
I see another Barry Fry coming.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: DiV on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 18:17:57
'tis still bollocks in my mind....


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Melksham Red on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 18:19:38
Quote from: "DV85"
'tis still bollocks in my mind....


Agreed


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: my-velocity on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 18:37:46
Can't wait if it's true, will send a message to Willie Carson that we want Investors who are interested in the sport.

 :fu: Carson


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Supercake2 on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 18:45:21
i'll believe it when it happens  :D


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Dazzza on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 18:48:15
Great stuff.  

Bit odd although if you go back to MD's comments regarding the Stadium proposals he implied (although not directly) that an investment of 25 million had been lined up to fund half of the 50 required for the stadium costs.

It will be interesting to see how things take shape and how any investor takes their place at the board’s dinner table.  After all at present we have a board that’s largely been connected to SSW’s advisor rather than coming in off their own backs.

An Alan Ball headed consortium still sounds very odd.  I’d have thought it more likely to be property developers.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: red macca on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 20:29:45
heard a strong rumor today regarding ian holloway...i personally think it is total bollocks but im bored so i thought i would share it....anyway anyone got a link to this story


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 21:22:33
Quote from: "red macca"
heard a strong rumor today regarding ian holloway...i personally think it is total bollocks but im bored so i thought i would share it....anyway anyone got a link to this story


http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=145809&command=displayContent&sourceNode=145792&contentPK=14000899&moduleName=InternalSearch&formname=sidebarsearch

Right at the end it says what has already been posted.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: STFC Village on Saturday, February 11, 2006, 21:45:36
Why would they want to invest in us? :shrug:

This immediately leads me to assume that something can happen on the ground front, otherwise why would they plough any money in at all? So, very good news in that respect.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, February 12, 2006, 11:41:55
it wont happen  :-))(


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Supercake2 on Sunday, February 12, 2006, 15:13:13
brady could be back?... after all that money went in to pompey  :?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Sunday, February 12, 2006, 16:06:16
Quote from: "Supercake2"
brady could be back?... after all that money went in to pompey  :?
I hope that cunt never comes anywhere near Swindon again.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Dazzza on Sunday, February 12, 2006, 17:06:09
I'd do his daughter still though.

Getting a bit porky nowadays though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/derby/content/images/2004/11/05/karen_brady_body_200x260.jpg

You can give me a Brady over a Diamandis any day of the week.  Different class.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, February 12, 2006, 17:15:00
I'm not sure I like the sound of all this.....I've suspected for a while with the failure of the CG redevelopment....that Newbury will look to cut their loses and run....can't really see why any reputable operator would want to take us on unless they are a fan....as there can't be any profit in the venture.....ergo they'll have to be cowboys.

 Karen looks too much like her father to make her bonkable.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, February 12, 2006, 17:46:14
I see disaster on the horizon.

I mean, come on, this is STFC  :evil:


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Tails on Sunday, February 12, 2006, 18:02:02
.co.uk?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Dazzza on Sunday, February 12, 2006, 18:17:12
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"


 Karen looks too much like her father to make her bonkable.


That's the appeal.   :roll:

Surely to early for a runner and what losses has Newbury personally got to cut?

Not much has he?

I'd wager it's the development company that was mentioned ages ago after St Modwen pulled out.  Somone had to build those houses.   8)


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, February 12, 2006, 19:05:43
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Quote from: "Supercake2"
brady could be back?... after all that money went in to pompey  :?
I hope that cunt never comes anywhere near Swindon again.


He wasn't that bad.  Blatchley and Donegan were the fuck wits involved.  Karen's been in hospital lately so I doubt he has mcuh to do with it, unless she isn't right in the head.

Sorry, couldn't resist.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: janaage on Monday, February 13, 2006, 09:38:22
Believe people, the American cavalry will be here soon to take us to places we haven't been to for years.

The internet footwear multi millionaire will be our saviour!!!  

Believe....


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: fatbury on Monday, February 13, 2006, 09:40:43
Id love a big investor!


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: pauld on Monday, February 13, 2006, 10:32:15
Quote from: "fatbury"
Id love a big investor!

Is that an expression of enthusiasm or a direct offer of one-on-one fatbury action for anyone with the cash to put up? Can't see it being too compelling an offer, myself, but then these millionaires do have odd tastes.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, February 13, 2006, 11:23:35
I still can't see why anybody would put money into STFC other than a true love of the club....and of it does happen I will do nothing but worry about what will happen if/when they pull their money out.

We could be ruined


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, February 13, 2006, 11:39:05
I agree .  You have to hope this supposed investor is a fan of some sort.  Too many clubs have been shafted by outside 'investors' in the recent past.

We had our own close escape with Brady, but just look a few miles up the road to see what is now happening at Oxford.  Kassam arrived with to a great fanfare, and 4 or 5 (?) years later he is trying to leave, with the club near the foot of the basement division and having extracted a reported £15m personal profit from the various property deals.

I'm not even going to explore the Franchise FC debacle.

Reading, on the other hand, have a Chairman/investor who truly cares about the club.  We should be very careful who we welcome in.  I'd sooner struggle on as we are (despite the warnings of meltdown) than invite in a crook.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 13, 2006, 11:44:11
Quote from: "Ardiles"
I agree .  You have to hope this supposed investor is a fan of some sort.  Too many clubs have been shafted by outside 'investors' in the recent past.

We had our own close escape with Brady, but just look a few miles up the road to see what is now happening at Oxford.  Kassam arrived with to a great fanfare, and 4 or 5 (?) years later he is trying to leave, with the club near the foot of the basement division and having extracted a reported £15m personal profit from the various property deals.

I'm not even going to explore the Franchise FC debacle.

Reading, on the other hand, have a Chairman/investor who truly cares about the club.  We should be very careful who we welcome in.  I'd sooner struggle on as we are (despite the warnings of meltdown) than invite in a crook.


 I'm not sure Madejski cares about the club as such...rather he cares about the whole place and understands the importance of football in that equation.....so apparently he's invested in lots of other facets of Reading life


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: RobertT on Monday, February 13, 2006, 12:21:19
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "Ardiles"
I agree .  You have to hope this supposed investor is a fan of some sort.  Too many clubs have been shafted by outside 'investors' in the recent past.

We had our own close escape with Brady, but just look a few miles up the road to see what is now happening at Oxford.  Kassam arrived with to a great fanfare, and 4 or 5 (?) years later he is trying to leave, with the club near the foot of the basement division and having extracted a reported £15m personal profit from the various property deals.

I'm not even going to explore the Franchise FC debacle.

Reading, on the other hand, have a Chairman/investor who truly cares about the club.  We should be very careful who we welcome in.  I'd sooner struggle on as we are (despite the warnings of meltdown) than invite in a crook.


 I'm not sure Madejski cares about the club as such...rather he cares about the whole place and understands the importance of football in that equation.....so apparently he's invested in lots of other facets of Reading life


True, I think Madjeski loves "Reading" as a whole.  He has indeed put a lot of money into the Town, not just the football club.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: janaage on Monday, February 13, 2006, 12:44:49
Madjeski's not the only one, I love reading too, I'm currently enjoying "The Donkeys" by Allan Clarke.  About the imcompetance of the British generals during WW1.  Great stuff.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 13, 2006, 12:48:07
Quote from: "janaage"
Madjeski's not the only one, I love reading too, I'm currently enjoying "The Donkeys" by Allan Clarke.  About the imcompetance of the British generals during WW1.  Great stuff.


 Isn't The Donkeys by Allan Clarke, about cumbersome centre halves in late 60's early 70's English football?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: janaage on Monday, February 13, 2006, 17:15:25
'fraid not Reg, just a 300 pager about our tommy's being slaughtered by the hun (German's not Rangers supporters).


Title: Re: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: DiV on Monday, February 13, 2006, 20:41:59
Quote from: "STFCere"
"Swindon deputy chairman Mark Devlin has revealed that the club has recently been in talks with potential new investors.

He said: "There is nothing concrete at the moment but we certainly hope to get them on board sooner rather than later."

SOURCE: WDP

To all those that doubted my exclusive on the Alan Ball consortium, here you go.

Once AGAIN, you heard it here first. Alan Ball and another ex england international will invest in Swindon in the near future.

I await your 'bollocks' and other similar comments.  8)


Just read the adver and Devlin doesnt say that at all....


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 09:42:54
Quote from: "janaage"
Madjeski's not the only one, I love reading too, I'm currently enjoying "The Donkeys" by Allan Clarke.  About the imcompetance of the British generals during WW1.  Great stuff.


Lloyd George was guilty as well though, surely.  Didn't Kitchener go down in a sub?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 09:55:41
Quote from: "Ardiles"


  Didn't Kitchener go down on a sub?


 What Barry Kitchener?  I'd whisper that very quietly down Cold Blow Lane.

 If Sniffer had it  in his book must be true though.


Title: Re: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Johno on Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 10:19:46
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "STFCere"
"Swindon deputy chairman Mark Devlin has revealed that the club has recently been in talks with potential new investors.

He said: "There is nothing concrete at the moment but we certainly hope to get them on board sooner rather than later."

SOURCE: WDP

To all those that doubted my exclusive on the Alan Ball consortium, here you go.

Once AGAIN, you heard it here first. Alan Ball and another ex england international will invest in Swindon in the near future.

I await your 'bollocks' and other similar comments.  8)


Just read the adver and Devlin doesnt say that at all....


thats because the source isnt the adver, if thats what you mean.


Title: Re: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 13:00:14
Quote from: "Johno"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "STFCere"
"Swindon deputy chairman Mark Devlin has revealed that the club has recently been in talks with potential new investors.

He said: "There is nothing concrete at the moment but we certainly hope to get them on board sooner rather than later."

SOURCE: WDP

To all those that doubted my exclusive on the Alan Ball consortium, here you go.

Once AGAIN, you heard it here first. Alan Ball and another ex england international will invest in Swindon in the near future.

I await your 'bollocks' and other similar comments.  8)


Just read the adver and Devlin doesnt say that at all....


thats because the source isnt the adver, if thats what you mean.


So Devlin tells the WDP that 'he has recently had discussions with a potential new investor'

But Devlin tells the Adver 'I havent had any contract with potential new investors, but we are always on the look out'

Not direct quotes but you get the point


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 07:32:36
Swindon are in talks with an investor who does not live in Britain, but he is English.
The money he has would make Madjeski's millions look like small change. The man is a Swindon fan.
He has been to three Swindon games this season.
These are facts...not fiction


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Zurich Red on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 08:37:02
Where's he been for the last 10 years? Could have used his help before now if he's got that much cash.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 10:27:13
yeah right its all bollocks  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 12:09:39
Quote from: "Rich"
yeah right its all bollocks  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Bollocks is what people say when they are clueless of whats going on and can't think of anything constructive.
I would not make a statement without some truth behind it, my previous post was 100% truth and correct.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Tails on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 12:11:29
Quote from: "centre back"
Swindon are in talks with an investor who does not live in Britain, but he is English.
The money he has would make Madjeski's millions look like small change. The man is a Swindon fan.
He has been to three Swindon games this season.
These are facts...not fiction


Would be nice but I approach these things with extreme caution, especially as I don't know you or how trust worthy you are.

What's your source?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 12:11:59
Quote from: "Tails"
Quote from: "centre back"
Swindon are in talks with an investor who does not live in Britain, but he is English.
The money he has would make Madjeski's millions look like small change. The man is a Swindon fan.
He has been to three Swindon games this season.
These are facts...not fiction


Would be nice but I approach these things with extreme caution, especially as I don't know you or how trust worthy you are.

What's your source?


His arsehole


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 12:19:55
''His Arsehole!!!'' excellent reply, now go and tidy your room.
Tails: Without giving his name and my name, all I can say is watch this space, it will happen before the end of the season.
Talks are taking place, that is a fact.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Tails on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 12:23:07
I think you can understand why people are being cynical about it.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 12:30:56
Quote from: "centre back"
''His Arsehole!!!'' excellent reply, now go and tidy your room.
Tails: Without giving his name and my name, all I can say is watch this space, it will happen before the end of the season.
Talks are taking place, that is a fact.


Basically if you can't quote any source, how are we supposed to believe this rumour as fact? At the moment it is just a rumour and a lot of people are very cynical about rumours as Tails said, because 99% of the time they are untrue.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Tails on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 12:32:07
Especially with a guy who's just joined the site.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 12:33:41
Quote from: "Tails"
I think you can understand why people are being cynical about it.

Yes, we've heard it all before and the comments from supporters to my statement on this forum are understandable.
Hes not just going to write a cheque just like that and there is hard work going on at the club to bring his investment to STFC.
The big thing though, he is passionate Swindon Town Football Club fan and for that reason I feel it will happen.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Tails on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 12:36:47
Even if it is true, what are his intentions? New stadium? Just putting loads of money in for no return?

Even if this so called passionate Town fan does pump the money in, what if all goes wrong and we end up completely in the shitter?

I don't know if anyone could work with our board/council anyway......

I'll believe it when I see it.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 12:44:33
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "centre back"
''His Arsehole!!!'' excellent reply, now go and tidy your room.
Tails: Without giving his name and my name, all I can say is watch this space, it will happen before the end of the season.
Talks are taking place, that is a fact.


Basically if you can't quote any source, how are we supposed to believe this rumour as fact? At the moment it is just a rumour and a lot of people are very cynical about rumours as Tails said, because 99% of the time they are untrue.


Remember the 1%


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Tails on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 12:45:32
Well 1% hardly fills everyone with hope does it  :-))(


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 12:50:07
Quote from: "Tails"
Well 1% hardly fills everyone with hope does it  :-))(

What can I say, if the comments/statements I have made are a pack of lies, what was my point.
I am not in the habit of talking bollocks or through my arse.
It will not happen tomorrow or next week, but it will happen.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Tails on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 13:08:17
...in a few hundred years?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 13:23:13
Quote from: "Tails"
...in a few hundred years?


Before the end of the season .......


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: STFC Village on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 13:33:08
I completely believe you CB, you seem like a trustworthy kinda guy I have full faith that you are telling the truth, and by the end of the season, we'll have a multi-millionaire in charge of the club, leading us on a glorious march back to the Premiership, after back-to-back promotions. Champions league winners in 5 years. You heard it here first


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 13:43:32
Quote from: "STFC Village"
I completely believe you CB, you seem like a trustworthy kinda guy I have full faith that you are telling the truth, and by the end of the season, we'll have a multi-millionaire in charge of the club, leading us on a glorious march back to the Premiership, after back-to-back promotions. Champions league winners in 5 years. You heard it here first


 :mrgreen:


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: magicroundabout on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 13:47:38
Quote from: "STFC Village"
I completely believe you CB, you seem like a trustworthy kinda guy I have full faith that you are telling the truth, and by the end of the season, we'll have a multi-millionaire in charge of the club, leading us on a glorious march back to the Premiership, after back-to-back promotions. Champions league winners in 5 years. You heard it here first


i sat there for a second and thought about us in that position.
how fucking ace would it be.

but then i came back down with a mighty bump


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 13:52:45
I believe cb to. Infact I'm gonna have a few beers to celebrate!


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Spud on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 14:26:57
Quote from: "STFC Village"
I completely believe you CB, you seem like a trustworthy kinda guy I have full faith that you are telling the truth, and by the end of the season, we'll have a multi-millionaire in charge of the club, leading us on a glorious march back to the Premiership, after back-to-back promotions. Champions league winners in 5 years. You heard it here first


Now you're talking rubbish!, it'll take us at least 6 years to win the CL.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: DiV on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 16:20:23
Hmmm, we get one of these posts every few months

'new investors, cant say who or how I know BUT IT WILL HAPPEN'

None of them ever happen though


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 17:46:21
I have 'invested' a sum of around £5,000 in STFC over the last 13 years. In return I have been privalidged with watching sub-stand mediocre football for most of them! Bring it on!


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, March 4, 2006, 17:48:21
The investor is me. I'm pre-empting gettng round to buying a euro-millions lottery ticket one day and winnning. The club were more than happy to chat to me about a possible investment.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: pauld on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 00:58:49
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
Quote from: "STFC Village"
I completely believe you CB, you seem like a trustworthy kinda guy I have full faith that you are telling the truth, and by the end of the season, we'll have a multi-millionaire in charge of the club, leading us on a glorious march back to the Premiership, after back-to-back promotions. Champions league winners in 5 years. You heard it here first


Now you're talking rubbish!, it'll take us at least 6 years to win the CL.

Champions League, my arse. Intertoto or death - that should be our rallying cry!  :D


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 14:19:13
Trying to think logical about this, how much would a person have to 'invest' into STFC to make us finanicial stable. From what I have been led to believe:

1/ £5 Million to pay back Wills Family
2/ £450,000 to pay back Willie Carson
3/ £900,000 CVA payment outstanding.
4/ £100,000 Inland Revenue outstanding.
5/ Club still running at a loss.

Anyone else heard otherwise?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: my-velocity on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 14:21:17
1/ £5 Million to pay back Wills Family
2/ £450,000 to pay back Willie Carson

Do we need to pay them back :? ?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 14:31:34
Quote from: "The Grim Reaper"
Trying to think logical about this, how much would a person have to 'invest' into STFC to make us finanicial stable. From what I have been led to believe:

1/ £5 Million to pay back Wills Family
2/ £450,000 to pay back Willie Carson
3/ £900,000 CVA payment outstanding.
4/ £100,000 Inland Revenue outstanding.
5/ Club still running at a loss.

Anyone else heard otherwise?

Pay back Carson, would you?
Every club runs at a loss in the books!!!


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 14:32:39
The monies that the Wills' have invested down the years are in the form of shares and loans, and underwritings probably to the tune of 9 mill.

  Think back to the Brady situation....he took a small shareholding from SSW, wuth the promise of buying out the rest if things panned out successfully.....in other words if there was money to be made out of STFC then SSW was rightly entitled to be compensated in full.

 That largely remains the case.

 Nevertheless....it now seems that even the most optimistic entrepreneur must realise that the dead hand of SBC, will mean STFC will never generate any profit.

  Because of this it may be that any mythical individual with a few mill to waste, could persuade SSW....to sell for a nominal say 2-3 mill.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: my-velocity on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 14:35:00
We really can't go down this season if we do we'll lose alot of money. It's a must that we survive.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 14:49:41
Quote from: "centre back"
Quote from: "The Grim Reaper"
Trying to think logical about this, how much would a person have to 'invest' into STFC to make us finanicial stable. From what I have been led to believe:

1/ £5 Million to pay back Wills Family
2/ £450,000 to pay back Willie Carson
3/ £900,000 CVA payment outstanding.
4/ £100,000 Inland Revenue outstanding.
5/ Club still running at a loss.

Anyone else heard otherwise?

Pay back Carson, would you?
Every club runs at a loss in the books!!!


Au Contraire, many clubs make a financial profit. I think people get too hung up on profits, it's cash flow that really matters.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 15:02:29
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "centre back"
Quote from: "The Grim Reaper"
Trying to think logical about this, how much would a person have to 'invest' into STFC to make us finanicial stable. From what I have been led to believe:

1/ £5 Million to pay back Wills Family
2/ £450,000 to pay back Willie Carson
3/ £900,000 CVA payment outstanding.
4/ £100,000 Inland Revenue outstanding.
5/ Club still running at a loss.

Anyone else heard otherwise?

Pay back Carson, would you?
Every club runs at a loss in the books!!!


Au Contraire, many clubs make a financial profit. I think people get too hung up on profits, it's cash flow that really matters.

Apart from your Man U's and Liverpools of this world, the only clubs that run at a profit for example Man City is because they sell their assets (Shaun Wright Phillips). In the Championship Reading are running at a profit, but not many others. How many sides in Division One are running at a profit? Swansea maybe, Huddersfield possibly, can't think of another.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 15:13:18
Quote from: "centre back"
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "centre back"
Quote from: "The Grim Reaper"
Trying to think logical about this, how much would a person have to 'invest' into STFC to make us finanicial stable. From what I have been led to believe:

1/ £5 Million to pay back Wills Family
2/ £450,000 to pay back Willie Carson
3/ £900,000 CVA payment outstanding.
4/ £100,000 Inland Revenue outstanding.
5/ Club still running at a loss.

Anyone else heard otherwise?

Pay back Carson, would you?
Every club runs at a loss in the books!!!


Au Contraire, many clubs make a financial profit. I think people get too hung up on profits, it's cash flow that really matters.

Apart from your Man U's and Liverpools of this world, the only clubs that run at a profit for example Man City is because they sell their assets (Shaun Wright Phillips). In the Championship Reading are running at a profit, but not many others. How many sides in Division One are running at a profit? Swansea maybe, Huddersfield possibly, can't think of another.


 
Quote
. In the Championship Reading are running at a profi
 

 Sorry not true....Reading despite having all the infrastructure in place lose 2 mill a season.....Mr Mad is prepared to underwrite this to get in the Prem, but has said he is ready to sell the club at this point...


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 15:38:49
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "centre back"
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "centre back"
Quote from: "The Grim Reaper"
Trying to think logical about this, how much would a person have to 'invest' into STFC to make us finanicial stable. From what I have been led to believe:

1/ £5 Million to pay back Wills Family
2/ £450,000 to pay back Willie Carson
3/ £900,000 CVA payment outstanding.
4/ £100,000 Inland Revenue outstanding.
5/ Club still running at a loss.

Anyone else heard otherwise?

Pay back Carson, would you?
Every club runs at a loss in the books!!!


Au Contraire, many clubs make a financial profit. I think people get too hung up on profits, it's cash flow that really matters.

Apart from your Man U's and Liverpools of this world, the only clubs that run at a profit for example Man City is because they sell their assets (Shaun Wright Phillips). In the Championship Reading are running at a profit, but not many others. How many sides in Division One are running at a profit? Swansea maybe, Huddersfield possibly, can't think of another.


 
Quote
. In the Championship Reading are running at a profi
 

 Sorry not true....Reading despite having all the infrastructure in place lose 2 mill a season.....Mr Mad is prepared to underwrite this to get in the Prem, but has said he is ready to sell the club at this point...

OK Reg, so thats another club not making a profit, and they are a very successful side. My point being not many clubs do make a profit on paper, its not just Swindon town who are in the RED, a lot of sides are in worst financial shape than Swindon, especially at the level of the game Swindon find themselves.
Investment in a side like Swindon, with hopefully a new stadium, be it in Swindon or 15/20 miles away could be financially sound.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 15:53:44
There are a few in league one including Southend and Blackpool. I wasn't disputing that a lot of clubs do make a loss but to say every single one is just plain daft. I know that it was probably an exaggeration but you clearly need to some more research into the matter before you make statements as a matter of fact i.e. Reading


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 16:00:11
Quote from: "simon pieman"
There are a few in league one including Southend and Blackpool. I wasn't disputing that a lot of clubs do make a loss but to say every single one is just plain daft. I know that it was probably an exaggeration but you clearly need to some more research into the matter before you make statements as a matter of fact i.e. Reading

Ok I will drop the matter, the figures I saw said Reading made a profit ... but other interpretations might say Reading made a loss.
I paid only a third of the amount of tax I should have paid last year and the year before and the year before and the year before, it is all down to how you produce your accounts, and getting the best accountant to produce the figures to the tax man if you make a loss. Anyone who runs their company or is self employed knows that.
Never said all sides made a loss, never stated it as a fact ...


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: DiV on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 16:07:39
Quote from: "stfcbeckett"
We really can't go down this season if we do we'll lose alot of money. It's a must that we survive.


Not true, when we go down

Our wage budget will be smaller, the players can get us relegated then ask for a pay rise when renewing contracts

Most player will leave and be replaced by the kids

IF we do well and are near the top we will get better crowds, plus ticket prices wont be dropped

When we go down, if we have a good next season we'll make more money than we did this season.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 16:08:25
Quote
Every club runs at a loss in the books!!!


Reading made a £5m loss in their last accounts. Whilst I know there is room for creative accounting that's still fairly hard to interpret as a profit.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 16:09:14
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "stfcbeckett"
We really can't go down this season if we do we'll lose alot of money. It's a must that we survive.


Not true, when we go down

Our wage budget will be smaller, the players can get us relegated then ask for a pay rise when renewing contracts

Most player will leave and be replaced by the kids

IF we do well and are near the top we will get better crowds, plus ticket prices wont be dropped

When we go down, if we have a good next season we'll make more money than we did this season.


I seem to remember saying that when we went down from division one  :?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: DiV on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 16:10:41
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "stfcbeckett"
We really can't go down this season if we do we'll lose alot of money. It's a must that we survive.


Not true, when we go down

Our wage budget will be smaller, the players can get us relegated then ask for a pay rise when renewing contracts

Most player will leave and be replaced by the kids

IF we do well and are near the top we will get better crowds, plus ticket prices wont be dropped

When we go down, if we have a good next season we'll make more money than we did this season.


I seem to remember saying that when we went down from division one  :?


Its true though, being at the top of the 4th division would be more profitable than being bottom of the 3rd division....not going to happen though


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 16:12:35
Yeah it is true. I think if we go down we won't do very well though. It's my turn to be pessimistic  :soapy tit wank:


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: DiV on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 16:14:30
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Yeah it is true. I think if we go down we won't do very well though. It's my turn to be pessimistic  :soapy tit wank:


Look at Torquay.... :D

It depends, we have a few players on two years who cant fuck off (Peacock, Cureton, Brown, Gurney) if we go all the rest will fuck off because they think they are too good.....depends what we replace them with (our youth team I expect)


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 16:27:51
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote
Every club runs at a loss in the books!!!


Reading made a £5m loss in their last accounts. Whilst I know there is room for creative accounting that's still fairly hard to interpret as a profit.

I said I would finish but last comment, are you talking about last years accounts?
For 2006 they average 24,000 at every game, with 17,000  of them season ticket holders, only spent about 1.5 million on players, the town is buzzing with nearly every young person wearing a Reading shirt.
If they have lost £5million this season there is no hope for anyone.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 16:30:21
Last years accounts yes. Maybe they have huge amounts of player amortisation, but they have more operating expenses than turnover. That said, it has obviously been run in such a way to get them to the premiership.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 16:36:23
Quote from: "centre back"
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote
Every club runs at a loss in the books!!!


Reading made a £5m loss in their last accounts. Whilst I know there is room for creative accounting that's still fairly hard to interpret as a profit.

I said I would finish but last comment, are you talking about last years accounts?
For 2006 they average 24,000 at every game, with 17,000  of them season ticket holders, only spent about 1.5 million on players, the town is buzzing with nearly every young person wearing a Reading shirt.
If they have lost £5million this season there is no hope for anyone.


 The loss though should really only be seen as the investment that John Madejski is prepared to make to get Prem football.....in realistic terms, its not big money in relation to that pumped in by others around that top 7 or 8 in the CCC.

 Nevertheless its money that can't be generated from other sources, despite all the infrastructure.

 The scum generated a small profit  last season, Kassam being a model chairman in making sure the club doesn't run into debt...


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Sunday, March 5, 2006, 16:47:38
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "stfcbeckett"
We really can't go down this season if we do we'll lose alot of money. It's a must that we survive.


Not true, when we go down

Our wage budget will be smaller, the players can get us relegated then ask for a pay rise when renewing contracts

Most player will leave and be replaced by the kids

IF we do well and are near the top we will get better crowds, plus ticket prices wont be dropped

When we go down, if we have a good next season we'll make more money than we did this season.


I seem to remember saying that when we went down from division one  :?


But to be honest there is a good argument that financially we are better off in this league. I mean we were losing £2-3 million in the league above and in this league it's less. Definitely if we have a season like 2003/2004, we would make more money than one like 1998/1999.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Monday, March 6, 2006, 21:11:03
Tails,
I see you have changed or your pre and post quotes with IT WILL NOT HAPPEN TODAY, OR NEXT WEEK, BUT IT WILL HAPPEN.
Well my old son, I have £1,000,000 to put into Swindon Town on my own to reduce prices of entry for the rest of the season, but wankers like you make me think why should I bother.
No further info or hope will be given on this website.
Just wait and see what happens then put your hands in the air and say 'I was the disbelieving tosser who wanted to take the piss'.
You arsehole.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, March 6, 2006, 21:12:05
we'll see then shall we?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: my-velocity on Monday, March 6, 2006, 21:14:26
Quote from: "centre back"
Tails,
I see you have changed or your pre and post quotes with IT WILL NOT HAPPEN TODAY, OR NEXT WEEK, BUT IT WILL HAPPEN.
Well my old son, I have £1,000,000 to put into Swindon Town on my own to reduce prices of entry for the rest of the season, but wankers like you make me think why should I bother.
No further info or hope will be given on this website.
Just wait and see what happens then put your hands in the air and say 'I was the disbelieving tosser who wanted to take the piss'.
You arsehole.


 :beers:


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Batch on Monday, March 6, 2006, 21:21:39
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Centre Back has spat their dummy  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Fact of the matter is simple. We have heard it all before yet to date nothing has happened in real terms except for the Donagan fiasco that got us further into debt.

Bob Holt is presumably still trying to shake his stick at his investors, but he is  losing the battle because there are too many of them.

Anyone who had £1m to put into STFC would use it to secure the club as an ongoing concern (pay CVA for e.g.) , not wasting it on reducing ticket prices.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: centre back on Monday, March 6, 2006, 21:21:56
The offer is on the table, do you enjoy the prices you pay.
Or do you prefer to live in your little take the piss world.
Are you really Swindon supporters???
Make your minds up, the offer will not be their for ever.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: STFC Village on Monday, March 6, 2006, 21:23:01
Quote from: "centre back"
Tails,
I see you have changed or your pre and post quotes with IT WILL NOT HAPPEN TODAY, OR NEXT WEEK, BUT IT WILL HAPPEN.
Well my old son, I have £1,000,000 to put into Swindon Town on my own to reduce prices of entry for the rest of the season, but wankers like you make me think why should I bother.
Why would one fans pessimistic views change your reasons for putting money into the club?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: STFC Village on Monday, March 6, 2006, 21:24:29
Quote from: "centre back"
Make your minds up, the offer will not be their for ever.
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: We're not really in a position to accept! Unless you're handing out cash on the turnstiles


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, March 6, 2006, 21:24:44
simple he hasnt got the money  :D


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Batch on Monday, March 6, 2006, 21:25:46
Quote from: "Rich"
simple he hasnt got the money  :D


No shit!

Next post by centre back: "If that's your attitude I'm taking my money elsewhere"


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 02:10:04
I reckon CB is a Brighton fan


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: SwindonStevo on Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 13:00:35
if you're serious you cant expect fans on a website forum to belive you just because you made a few posts with some claims mate. i dont think there would be a town fan in the world complaining if you decided you wanted to put a million into the town, but actions speak louder than words. put the cash in and then come back on here and tell us all what tossers we were for not believing you. please prove us wrong, were begging you!


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Luci on Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 13:27:15
If he had read previous posts then perhaps he would understand that speculation is rife especially on interent forums.  Why is he assuming that people will believe him moreso than anyone else?

The fact of the matter is that without a source or solid facts that we can relate to its hard to accept there may really be a financial light at the end of the tunnel.

If I had a significant figure to put into this club I certainly would not mention it until its a done deal and officially announced.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 13:50:56
Quote from: "STFCLady"
If he had read previous posts then perhaps he would understand that speculation is rife especially on interent forums.  Why is he assuming that people will believe him moreso than anyone else?

The fact of the matter is that without a source or solid facts that we can relate to its hard to accept there may really be a financial light at the end of the tunnel.

If I had a significant figure to put into this club I certainly would not mention it until its a done deal and officially announced.


and even then i wouldn't tell anyone it was me.

maybe Devlin could say if this is guy is for real or not????


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 19:49:54
He isn't a swindon fan.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Foggy on Friday, March 17, 2006, 15:12:13
Bump...So then Mr Centre Parks where is the big investor ?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Leggett on Friday, March 17, 2006, 20:18:01
he got put off by a bunch of people on a forum, at least thats what i heard...  :-))(


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, March 18, 2006, 12:45:44
centre back =  :wanker:


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 12:23:15
Perhaps centre back = Mr Power?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: STFC Village on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 12:27:29
Quote from: "land_of_bo"
Perhaps centre back = Mr Power?
Says earlier in the thread that the investor is a passionate STFC fan that he knows. Apart from that....possibly


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 12:32:46
Quote from: "land_of_bo"
Perhaps centre back = Mr Power?


well he did say he would put in £1m and reduce ticket prices.

so far thats 2 out of 2.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Batch on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 12:35:53
:oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

Sorry Mr Centre Back Power Sir. Please forgive our missguided cynasism Sir.


:oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 12:37:34
Quote from: "Batch"
:oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

Sorry Mr Centre Back Power Sir. Please forgive our missguided cynasism Sir.


:oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:


p.s. tails is still a twat  :wink:


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: pauld on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 12:44:19
Quote from: "Rich"
centre back =  :wanker:

Hmm

if (centre-back=power)
{
   Rich=banned for next season;
}

 :D


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: red macca on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 12:45:37
Quote from: "pauld"
Quote from: "Rich"
centre back =  :wanker:

Hmm

if (centre-back=power)
{
   Rich=banned for next season;
}

 :D
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 14:27:46
bloody hell ,have i missed something!?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Leggett on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 14:37:15
it would appear you have...


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 14:37:49
give me the jist of it!


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Batch on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 14:42:03
Quote from: "Danjackson10"
give me the jist of it!


http://www.thetownend.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11364

~Then look back at centre-backs posts in this thread. Coincidence or in the know/the main man ...You decide.


Quote from: "centre back"
Tails,
I see you have changed or your pre and post quotes with IT WILL NOT HAPPEN TODAY, OR NEXT WEEK, BUT IT WILL HAPPEN.
Well my old son, I have £1,000,000 to put into Swindon Town on my own to reduce prices of entry for the rest of the season, but wankers like you make me think why should I bother.
No further info or hope will be given on this website.
Just wait and see what happens then put your hands in the air and say 'I was the disbelieving tosser who wanted to take the piss'.
You arsehole.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: pumbaa on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 14:46:59
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/wiltshire/4949968.stm


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: janaage on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 15:16:01
Quote from: "centre back"
''His Arsehole!!!'' excellent reply, now go and tidy your room.
Tails: Without giving his name and my name, all I can say is watch this space, it will happen before the end of the season.
Talks are taking place, that is a fact.


I love this guy!!  When's he coming back on here to lay the smackdown on the doubters asses!!  Fair play to you CB!!


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 15:40:37
Quote from: "Rich"
centre back =  :wanker:


Would you like to revise that opinion Rich?????? 8)


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 15:42:53
right so are we saying centre back is our very own mr power? :?


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 15:46:30
Could be.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 15:53:25
No, didn't he say he knew someone first, and also said they were a Swindon fan?  if so, it could be coincidence, or maybe there are more!!


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 15:56:48
god i hope its more, how mental would that be! How the hell did i miss this thread!
To be honest i cant see why an intelligent business man would come on here and discuss these matters. I know i would'nt!


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Dorset Red on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 15:58:21
"Swindon deputy chairman Mark Devlin has revealed that the club has recently been in talks with potential new investors.

He said: "There is nothing concrete at the moment but we certainly hope to get them on board sooner rather than later."

SOURCE: WDP


THe original quote in this thread refers to "Investors"....plural. Does that mean there are others in addition to Mr Power waiting in the wings????????


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 16:00:10
He also said the new investor didn't live in England which I think Mr Power does.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: pauld on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 16:31:12
In all seriousness, I'd be astonished if centre-back was Bill Power, partly because the references to being a Swindon fan etc don't gel, but also because from what I can gather from his behaviour at QPR, he'd be unlikely to use language like:

Quote
wankers like you make me think why should I bother.
No further info or hope will be given on this website.
Just wait and see what happens then put your hands in the air and say 'I was the disbelieving tosser who wanted to take the piss'.
You arsehole.

C'mon, this was just a wind-up merchant: if no-one came in, we'd all have forgotten about it; if someone did, he could start everyone wondering well like this really.


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 16:47:50
I don't think CB is Mr Power, but I certainly think he had a very good idea of what was going on. OK, he reckoned the investor was a Swindon fan which was not right but there are too many other things for it to be a coincidence.

I think it is fair to say that Centre Back knows what he is on about.

At the same time, I don't think he should be too harsh on people for being sceptical.  I mean, this is STFC!!!!


Title: NEW INVESTORS....
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, April 27, 2006, 16:59:02
He sounds a top bloke to me!

I'd like to buy Mr Bill 'Austin' Powers a drink  :D