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Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:01:02 who would you go for?
for me craig easton is the current leader,and gets my vote. actually maybe i shouldn't have started this thread as its a bit pointless. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: DiV on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:01:53 The Beast
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:02:33 ifil or easton
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: mattboyslim on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:03:10 A worthy thread IMHO, can't really argue with Easton, although Ifil is class, and Aljofree seems to bring the experience Jerel tends to need alongside him. Cox also warrants a mention for his efforts whilst at SN1.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: lebowski on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:03:12 ifil.
but yes, easton has been good. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:04:16 Jerel Ifil or Craig Easton. Minge would be up there if he played like he currently is.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:04:35 ifil or easton or aljofree or mohamed
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:07:31 1 vote each please gents.i thought ifil was robbed last season as it goes
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:13:57 1 vote? Ifil, hands down then.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Bushey Boy on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:14:57 So far, Cox
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Colin Todd on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:16:48 Ifil
Cox Roberts Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: swindon_chick on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:17:28 Ifil wins.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Bennett on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:18:15 cox
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Barry Scott on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:19:02 Ifil
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: glos_robin on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:21:52 Ifil as should of had it last year as well....and deserves it after coming back better after King shot his confidence to bits.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:22:48 Ifil.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: DiV on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:56:47 I remember a while back when everyone thought Sean O'Hanlon was a better player than Jerel Ifil :D
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: glos_robin on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:59:06 Quote from: "DV" I remember a while back when everyone thought Sean O'Hanlon was a better player than Jerel Ifil :D I think it's safe to say O'halon was that shit himself he made Jerel suffer. O'hanlon was the king of backing off with classic examples being Kuffour scoring at Torquay and Cotterill scorring for City against us..........how the fuck was he our captain Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:59:33 guilty!
aint seen o'hanlon for a while so dont know how he's doing. ifil defensively is awsome now,his interceptions of passes is a joy to watch. if he could pass the ball he'd be borderline prem quality i think. i'm so glad he's gone from zero to hero. i really like him now. that said he was diobolical for a while Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: mattboyslim on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:59:59 At the time I did, and looking back at the time I think i was right. Jerel has come on leaps and bounds in the last 2 years or so, better control, better positioning, no need to make rash challenges so often and more passes staying on the pitch. Sean O when with us was a solid player, and pretty young too when he first came, however he developed a penchant for the £££ and his career promise never really blossomed IMHO.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 22:02:25 the crowd now forgive the beasts flaws with his passing.because he is so good at recovering
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: DiV on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 22:03:45 I always thought we overrated Sean'O and he looked much better at Right Back then Centre Half.
He was the worst captain we've ever had and wasnt near vocal enough and couldnt lead the defence like he was supposed to do. He was shit. Ifil I didnt doubt, although he had a shit season it was clear his confidence under King was shot. We all remember his 3(?) loan spells in our Play Off seasons - each one of them he was immense and I would have voted him up there with Parkin and Mooney as Player of the Season that year if he'd played a whole season and been our player. Glad to see he's got better and proved the doubters. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: glos_robin on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 22:04:49 Don't think it helped with King blaming every goal/defeat/world war on Ifil.........shot his confidence and some people actually listened to King and jumped on the bandwagon
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 22:06:36 ifil knows he can't pass so just gets rid of the ball, i'd rather he did that than risk losing possession. otherwise he's got everything; pace, strength, reads the game, strong in the tackle without giving fouls away, good temprament, consistent, excellent man marker.
his concentration has improved immeasurably and his error proneness has all but disappeared. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: mattboyslim on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 22:07:46 I remember seeing ifil playing full back away at Mansfield when on loan, at the time I was at uni an not seeing many games, and his performance was awful, largely due to him not having the finesse to put crosses in, even now I don't think he would be any good at full back, however as a CB he has blossomed to be outstanding for this level, and IMHO tends to play better when an old head is next to him as proven when he's played with Williams, Vincent and Aljofree, in comparison to Sean O.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 22:08:24 i doubted him,slated him and didn't want him in the side.
he was awful for quite a while.but i will hold my hands up and say he proved me wrong.he was by far our best player last season and if he gets the award this term i will be delighted for him. the bizzare thing about his distribution, is that he generally does better when he has less time to think about a pass. he can play a great ball at times and also carry the ball brilliantly out of defence too. give him a few seconds, then boof its in the stand Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: DiV on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 22:17:52 Quote from: "arriba" i doubted him,slated him and didn't want him in the side. he was awful for quite a while.but i will hold my hands up and say he proved me wrong.he was by far our best player last season and if he gets the award this term i will be delighted for him. the bizzare thing about his distribution, is that he generally does better when he has less time to think about a pass. he can play a great ball at times and also carry the ball brilliantly out of defence too. give him a few seconds, then boof its in the stand I can understand the second bit....sort of....my left foot....if I have no time to think about it and swing a boot at it....I generally do better than if I have time to think about kicking it with my left foot....weird!!! Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 22:18:31 i can sort of understand that. i'm similar when i play football and can't really explain it either. i think it's down to impulses and such
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Chubbs on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 01:48:17 beast hands down
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 02:49:02 Ifils flaws, like others have said, are now minor against the massive quality he has at CB. Like SY said, he's almost got it all. I almost wet myself when i see wingers or strikers try to skin him and loose 99 times out of 100. The man is immense and few will better him.
I love watching him man-mark as well. They may as well be off the pitch such is his ability to mark someone out the game. Lita anyone? Or even Scotland on Jan 1. Every time he tried it on you could Scotland's confidence draining more, it was beautiful. I don't care one of our strikers scores 50 goals this term, Ifil was robbed last year and i want to see him as player of the season. He's a nice bloke as well, when i've met him he's come across as quiet, shy and humble. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Marty McFly on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 09:36:42 Ifil no question for me. He is diff'rent gravy! He is an absolute rock at the back and I will always love him for the goal at Millwall. He will definately be playing Championship football one day if not Premiership.
Also worthy of a mention is Brez who has been superb since getting a run of games in the side but has not played enough to come anywhere near Ifil. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 09:51:45 How can it be Ifil? I know I keep reading comments about how well he has been playing, but doesn't he keep getting sent off and suspended? That doesn't do much for the team really does it?
NMH Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: mattboyslim on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 09:54:00 If Jerel was booked yesterday (i don't remember either way) it would have only been his third booking fo the season. He had the red card, but it was something of a freak match against Rovers, certainly his disciplinary record is far better this season than in the past.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 10:03:42 Thought he had 2 reds this year?
NMH Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: kevjoycreed on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 10:20:26 Ifil, hands down
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: herthab on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 11:18:08 For consistency, it's gotta be Ifil.
Lucky for us his distribution is so poor, otherwise he'd be playing at a much higher standard :D Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Chubbs on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 12:04:16 last season jerel got a yellow in each of the first 5 games of the season or sumat like that didint he.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 12:29:21 Ifil by a mile for me.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Nemo on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 13:34:37 Yes, I was amazed to read that Ifil only had three yellows for the season. Aljofree's disciplinary record is worse- picked up his fifth yesterday, so we have another game of either Vincent, or scarily, Blackburn, at centreback.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 13:42:48 Vincent will do well at centre back
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Chubbs on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 14:07:14 but that means nicho at left back if vincent goes to centre, and from what i have seen nicho is a liability at LB, especialy tracking back (or lack of it) from him
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Sussex on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 14:07:36 Ifil. Going out on a limb there I know.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 14:31:15 Again, Ifill. Most under rated player is Vincent. Most consistent is Easton. Honourable mentions to Cox, Brez and Corr.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Bushey Boy on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 14:39:49 Quote from: "chalkies_shorts" Again, Ifill. Most under rated player is Vincent. Most consistent is Easton. Honourable mentions to Cox, Brez and Corr. Thats a pretty good opinion Chalkier Shorts Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 15:05:35 Quote from: "Nomoreheroes" How can it be Ifil? I know I keep reading comments about how well he has been playing, but doesn't he keep getting sent off and suspended? That doesn't do much for the team really does it? i don't think you're in much of a position to comment on his ability, are you?NMH Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 15:34:20 Ifil...End of.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 15:35:43 Quote from: "Nomoreheroes" How can it be Ifil? I know I keep reading comments about how well he has been playing, but doesn't he keep getting sent off and suspended? That doesn't do much for the team really does it? NMH He's only been sent off this season, as he became one of Rob Styles' 'victims' against Rovers. The sending off was a joke. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 15:43:13 Quote from: "SY" Quote from: "Nomoreheroes" How can it be Ifil? I know I keep reading comments about how well he has been playing, but doesn't he keep getting sent off and suspended? That doesn't do much for the team really does it? i don't think you're in much of a position to comment on his ability, are you?NMH If you read what I said you'll note that I didn't. All I did was to ask several questions. NMH Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 15:44:27 To answer your questions:
Without Ifil, we'd be fucked. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 15:45:59 you asked how ifil could be player of the year when you've not seen him play!
that's akin to me saying that landon donavan of la galaxy shouldn't be playing for america because he's got small feet. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: mattboyslim on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 15:47:39 Yeah but with feet like Donovan even someone with the skill of Ronaldo would struggle to be a footballer.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: neville w on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 15:51:14 Quote from: "SY" you asked how ifil could be player of the year when you've not seen him play! that's akin to me saying that landon donavan of la galaxy shouldn't be playing for america because he's got small feet. Didn't he sing "My old man's a dustman" ? Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 16:39:13 Quote from: "SY" you asked how ifil could be player of the year when you've not seen him play! that's akin to me saying that landon donavan of la galaxy shouldn't be playing for america because he's got small feet. Now read the second sentence. God, this is hard work! NMH Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 18:39:09 i understand what you were saying you patronising cock.
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 20:16:15 Quote from: "SY" i understand what you were saying you patronising cock. Sticks and stones Mr Cyber Warrior. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: adje on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 20:25:12 Easton-coz he's played more games than Ifil
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 20:43:49 Quote from: "adje" Easton-coz he's played more games than Ifil I thought Ifil had played significantly less that Easton - I stand corrected - I apologize for my mistake. NMH Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: axs on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 20:44:52 Quote from: "Nomoreheroes" Quote from: "adje" Easton-coz he's played more games than Ifil I thought Ifil had played significantly less that Easton - I stand corrected - I apologize for my mistake. NMH huh? Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: adje on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 21:31:33 Quote from: DV I always thought we overrated Sean'O and he looked much better at Right Back then Centre Half. He was the worst captain we've ever had and wasnt near vocal enough and couldnt lead the defence like he was supposed to do. He was shit. Its close between him and Mark Seagraves Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: DiV on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 21:37:17 Seagraves....was at least, at one point a Championship Defender....
Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Reeves for King on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 21:37:57 O'Hanlon was shite.
Big Baz is our nutter of the season, he is a class A mentalist. He looks like he'll ge sent off every time he plays. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: Arriba on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 21:39:56 o'hanlon wasn't shite.
he was however out of his depth as skipper. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: fatbury on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 22:03:52 player of the year at this mo ... hmmm
would have to be Jerel Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 22:35:05 Quote from: "Nomoreheroes" Quote from: "SY" i understand what you were saying you patronising cock. Sticks and stones Mr Cyber Warrior. this (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/) is a good website for checking statistics in future. Quote from: "adje" Easton-coz he's played more games than Ifil here's a pointless fact for you - easton has played 2,324 minutes out of a possible 2,610 this season missing only the first league game of the season and the JPT match against brentford. if you don't count those two games, he's been absent for only 106 minutes of play this season. in other words, he's going to rack up a shitload of appearances this year and he works his bollocks off as well. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 23:48:57 Jerel Ifil.
Because he's immense. End of. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: tans on Monday, January 7, 2008, 13:14:22 Quote from: "fatbury" player of the year at this mo ... hmmm would have to be Jerel :shock: That doesnt sound right coming from you. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: DMR on Monday, January 7, 2008, 13:24:49 O'Hanlon showed himself to be a grade A prick when he waltzed off to McDonalds after putting in 12 months of dross for us but that's off topic.
Easton, Ifil or frankly, cox. Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, January 7, 2008, 18:40:17 Quote from: "DMR" O'Hanlon showed himself to be a grade A prick when he waltzed off to McDonalds after putting in 12 months of dross for us but that's off topic. Easton, Ifil or frankly, cox. Who is this Frankly chap? Title: if you had to vote for player of the year now? Post by: lebowski on Monday, January 7, 2008, 18:51:48 BR, i think his surname is anitze or something like that.
one of the BEST lot. cant say i have seen enough to rate him that highly though. |