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..well its shite so far...

Good job Robinson's playing well or we're 2/3 down already.

Doesnt sound good does it!

Millom

Bollox,
And the sweaties are losing to

Ridiculous. We deserve this.

Ha. Glad I didn't go down the pub to watch this.

Robinson's just had a fucking nightmare!! 2-0!

HAHAHA,

Sorry but you gotta laugh at this.

maclaren out!
im gonna follow the faeroe isles from now on

Fucking muppet!

Beckham on the right please.  :o

McClaren out - ginger cunt.

Recall Beckham NOW

What's the formation? Is it:

                                          Cunt
                          Cunt   Cunt     Cunt  Cunt

                   Cunt            Cunt         Cunt        Cunt

                                      Cunt      Cunt

Steady with the ginger comments chris. You'll have chicken tits on your back :mrgreen:

Hehe ... sorry, but it's true.

Fucking eh. Beckham is our most influential player and the stage is now set for his return.

The worst thing about this is not one of these cunts, when we actually have the ball, is bothering to make a run ... they're all static expecting the ball to come to their feet without challenge. It's like watching 11 Christian Roberts running around the pitch.

Tossers.

What piece of veg will McClaren end up as on the back of the scandal rags?

Andy and Lou.

I want that one.

Agreed Rich.

A carrott

I've never seen so little movement or pace or desire in an England team.

It's actually terrible. We deserve to lose by more than 2.

Fuckin' hell! Even Erickson's false dawn lasted longer than this!

on a brighter note(for me anyway) Poland have just gone ahead against portugal after 9min,

im gonna try and find ronaldo if he's still about tomorrow, i'll have some of them portugal cunts for you lot too.
Im sure there will be a few around tomorrow when i get there.

rooney is dogshite.........im off to work!

Bring back Graham Taylor :beers:

Actually he was going for more of a:

Cunt

Cunt, Cunt, Cunt

Cunt, Cunt, Cunt, Cunt, Cunt

Cunt, Cunt

  The last time we lost by 2 clear goals in a qualifier was under Taylor, the last time we failed to qualify for a tournament was under Taylor.

  Taylor was a much better manager than McClaren....the FA are totally to blame for fucking up the relacement for Sven.

What a load of shite.

Even Terry was shite tonight.

Rooney should be dropped immediately along with Carrick.

Where's Beckham - swallow your pride you silly cunt McLaren and get him back in the squad.
And make him Captain again - Terry seems unable to lead the players the same way Becks did.

Sod the fucking formation (which Platt will probably explain was the cause of the second world war), it's the fucking players.

All the chances we conceeded were almost all down to individual idiocy or lack of ability at international level.  Neville not following the bloke who ran past him, Cole letting the only player on his side in behind him, Ferdinand or Terry not marking anyone, at all, bad passing and a lack of movement.

Sorry bu my fears over players such as Lampard and Crouch seem to have finally been born out when we play half decent teams.

Personally, I think we'll do no better than we have for the past 16 years with players such as Lampard, Crouch, Parker, Carrick etc being the top we can offer.  All have their abilities, don't get me wrong, but they are not world beaters.  Carrick is too stationery, Lampard is well, useless unless he is allowed to hang off the forward, Parker ran about alot and seems like an International Pook.

Time to address to real problem - the set-up of football in this country and the money in the Prem.  Not enough young English talent has the where with all to get off their reserve team arses and go and play some proper football.   Too many teams having to focus on better skilled foreign players to keep people paying £60 for a ticket and Sky paying billions to televise it.


Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Agreed. Too many foreigners.

I still don't understand why nobody in the Prem has taken a chance on Nugent. Good English talent. Fuck how much he'll cost, it doesn't matter, that lot in the Prem have got cash coming out of their ears - even the poor ones.

All we're doing by splashing cash on foreigners in the Prem is improving the quality of football in OTHER countries.

Diabolical.

Looked like they couldn't give a fuck tonight, no forward momentum at all.

What a joke. Fuck this Gerrard and Lampard can't play in the same midfield, get em both to roam and try and take some chances. Carrick plays sideways or backwards but never fucking forwards,

I've seen more shape in Michelle McManus, fucking woeful.

Can't say i support England, but yet again, once England play a half decent team, they buckle under the pressure.  Wasn't overly surprised about the result.  However England will qualify for the tournament as their home form will take them thru.  However, i cant see them getting many points away from home to either Isreal or Russia

Did anyone seriously expect us to win in Zagreb?......McClaren clearly didn't, which is why he played 5 defenders and tried to get a 0-0.  I suppose it may have worked, but its not exactly surprising that it didn't.

It's a double problem because the young English lads at the Prem clubs earn so fucking much now that they'll rather sit around having the odd game than go an take a wage cut and try out the next 3 leagues (yes there will be the odd one here and there, but generally they wait until too late because it's an easy life).

I don't mind some good foreign talent over here, it can help, just it's become a complete reliance at the top almost.

Add into that the fact the we have never as a nation realised that if you make kids of 6 and 7 run around in 11 a-side games with parents telling them to get it forward, you'll never create a nation of skillfull players.  I'd be a firm supporter of concentrating on technical development until kids are at least 11/12 and even then restrict games to lesser numbers until around 14/15 (by which time the best kids will have been snapped up by teams and begin the tactical development).

Didn't expect a win, but would have at least like to match them and look like we were intelligent.

I'm more stuck in the realisation that the current crop just don't really cut the mustard at this level.

If you're playing for a 0-0 you play hard. The point is that most of them didn't seem to give a fuck.

 In the pre match build up, this is what McClaren said, the usual bullshit about strong characters experience standing up etc.....fact is that most of them don't give a fuck......they all earn so much at their clubs that with the odd honourable exception playing for England is just a marketing opportunity.

 Of course, bizarrely, one who did care was Beckham, who McClaren promptly dropped to appease the tabloids.

Im not taking anything away from Croatia cos they outplayed us and fully deserved the win but the England performance was a complete shambles.

Losing i can take but they didnt even fucking bother trying, bunch of over paid Cunts who need a reality check.

Watch out for that bobble Robinson.  :doh:

In the pre match build up, this is what McClaren said, the usual bullshit about strong characters experience standing up etc.....fact is that most of them don't give a fuck......they all earn so much at their clubs that with the odd honourable exception playing for England is just a marketing opportunity.

 Of course, bizarrely, one who did care was Beckham, who McClaren promptly dropped to appease the tabloids.[/quote]

Couldn't agree more. How many times has it been said that players don't perform as well for their Country as they do for their club? Greedy, egotistical, spoilt, arrogant assholes, the lot of em! No passion, no pride. Prima donnas.

Tim flowers comes to mind.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Or 'Cunt and needs to be dropped'

He isnt even play well for Spurs ffs.

No way Robinson should be dropped. He was easily our best player in the first half and made 4 or 5 superb saves, if it wasn't for him it would have been a lot worse. Nobody played particularly well though.

The 3-5-2 was shit and shouldn't be tried again, I thought McClaren's changes were a bit crap as well, taking off Crouch the one England player who hasn't had a problem scoring recently.

I just don't agree with players playing for their country when they're out of form.

Robinson was crap in the WC but don't let your Spurs tinted Specs get in the way of that.

What makes even funnier. Is that all the Northen Ireland fans are singing to the latvia players "Are you England in Disguise."

What Tournament did N.I qualify though?, oh yeah they didnt.

4-0 at OT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0-1 at Windsor Park

Robinson had a mixed world cup. I criticised him on here for fucking up against trinidad and tobago but he's still easily the best English goalkeeper at the moment and he made several very tough reaction saves today.

1 Croatia 3 2 1 0 9 0 9 7
2 England 4 2 1 1 6 2 4 7
3 Israel 3 2 1 0 6 2 4 7
4 FYR Macedonia 4 2 1 1 4 1 3 7
5 Russia 3 1 2 0 3 1 2 5
6 Estonia 3 0 0 3 0 4 -4 0
7 Andorra 4 0 0 4 1 19 -18 0

Still all to play for.  If Russia and Isreal win their games in hand, it could get rather interesting

We lose for the first time in ages and the hoolies come crawling out of the woodwork again  :-))(

Are they wearing Burberry?

But the fact is we have 7 points after playing 2 piss poor teams, Croatia were the first half decent oppostion we have faced so far in the group.

Robinsons the best of a bad bunch at the moment, or the least bad.

I'm actually more pissed off with him for the first goal, thought it was a soft header but he was in no-mans land

what the fuck was mclaren doing. playing a formation for the first time in god-knows how many years, with players who haven't played in that formation, in the toughest game of the group. And all that shit he was saying " round pegs in round holes." yeh, because gary nevills well renowned for his ability as a right sided midfielder, and his main asset is taking on players and delivering dangerous crosses into the box........ woops.

and why were parker and carrick holding hands the whole game? they were never more than 5 yards away for each other ffs.

Robinson, there was no-one around you for a good 20 yards, take a touch ffs. its not as if the pitch was a bowling green anyway.

In conclusion, were going to do well to qualify from this group, and we've taken a step backwards in appointing mclaren

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I Was avin a laugh reg :D

Millom

should try that young Walcott kiddy upfront, he looks alright....

Should have taken him to the world cup.... :roll:

We were shit tonight. End of (i'm too pissed to read the rest of the posts here sorry).  We'll still qualify though and you can't blame robbo like some of the papers will do tomorrow. we were totally inept

Also what was all that hoolie trouble about, They didnt have the commentary in the pub?

My reaction to the Robinson bobble :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
I felt rather embarrassed at having such an unpatriotic fit of laughter at the sight,but it was so funny :oops:

All I read was that there was a bit of a 'surge' to get into the ground before the game and the police contained the situation by whacking fans round the head with trunchons. Was there more to it?

Pissed myself at the second goal. Quite how such a soft header went in for the first is bemusing.

The worse bit was we didn't look like scoring in a million years.

Had to laugh when Robbo was made to look a fool by a divot.  I've not looked at any papers yet, but he was easily our man of the match. Despite looking shakey in the W.C, he's never directly cost us a game, and has kept us in numerous times. The only person i would consider putting in ahead f Robbo is Kirkland, should he ever string more that 5 games together in a row.

We had no creativity, no desire, and no one taking the game by the balls. It reminded me a little of our recent performances at the County G

Is it time to give Andy Farrell a go?

What position though?

Robinson has a mare with that goal but alround he made some terrific saves and ensured we were only embarrased and didnt have our trousers pulled all the way to our ankles and arse raped for all to see.....I mean it could easily have been 4 or 5 had we had James in goal!!

Either way, the answer is simple....Beckham.....maybe not as captain but we need his talents in the squad at least if not in the starting 11.....we are hopeless at all set pieces....I mean Lampard, who is in his worst form for years is taking all the corners?!?! sounds like a sensible Maclaren tactic  :doh:

Maclaren would definately have been my choice for manager, but even so, you have to be able to inject some patriotism into your players, some pride and willingness to give 110%.....if not (which it appears he can not do) then there's no point trying to explain tactics to a team of players who are supposed to be the countries finest talent and play week in week out.......

I honestly dont know who could do a better job as I would have said Psycho straight away, but he doesnt seem to have the other abilities as a manager other than the passion and pride so he wouldnt do much better.....

Allardyce maybe?.....if it turns out that he is an honest man that is?!?

MacLaren out! .. should never have been picked in the first place .. after all what right has he to tell any world class player what to do ... hes never done anything himself .. plus hes ex Shitty and Poxford .. so has to go!

thanks england.

I have a headache and was 25 mins late for work thanks to you overpaid dont care cunts.

I dont even know why i care an ymore.

wankers

You lot missed a trick when the FA didn't go for Martin O Neill.  He'd have been legendary for you boys.

So true.  And so bloody glaringly obvious, even at the time!

The whole England setup makes me sick.   :evil:

Agreed, he would have got them playing as a team rather than individuals.

Even Guus Hiddink would have been a better choice than the clone of Sven.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DImCt15GZPs

Robbo bobble.

Thanks, i dont think SSN showed it enough last night and today for me to take it in.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Just seen the Robinson howler for the first time on FF....classic.. scrolling ad of Borat appears in the background as Robinson cocks up  :soapy tit wank:

The Borat face makes the incident so much funnier.

I think it was in yesterday's Mirror. They done a spoof on the Robbo bobble saying it was Mcclaren tuft that caused the bobble.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

3-5-2- should be attacking yet maclaren played more defensive players than he would in a 4-4-2 :?