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Title: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: SWINRICH on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 14:26:27
www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/display.var.2454497.0.we_are_scared_to_play_here.php

You shouldn't be a pro if you cannot put up with a bit of stick from fans who pay their hard earned money to watch a game. These comments are Andy King Esque and Hasney is losing the plot and this is our captain.


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 14:34:06
Have they just re-edited the one from this morning and put a slightly different slant on it?


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: dell boy on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 14:34:57
Have they just re-edited the one from this morning and put a slightly different slant on it?

Yes


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 14:55:48
He basically read my post and agreed wtih it then? ;)

http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,30577.0.html



Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: sharper on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 15:52:43
I back Hasney 100%.  Been to every game this season and he has just been made a scapegoat for some poor performances.


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 15:55:46
I agree that he has been made scape goat on occasions this year, but I am 100% baffled why a professional footballer, a captain too, would come out and say that he and his players are scared to play at home.  Crazy statement to make, they should mentally stronger than that, ready for a fight everytime they step on the pitch, not worrying about upsetting town fans, by making a mistake.


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 15:57:05
its just his way of trying to get the fans to support the team....


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 15:59:45
Is it?  Fucking hell, think he should have engaged brain before speaking then.  I don't mind Hasney at all, but I am disappointed with these quotes.  Not a lot, but enough.


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Red End Street on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:01:41
I back Hasney 100%.  Been to every game this season and he has just been made a scapegoat for some poor performances.

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Well he certainly plays like a goat


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:01:59
i think it's pretty obvious the players are scared of playing at home. imagine how jpm must feel, hearing abuse from town fans whilst running along the touchline for instance.
you are never going to get the best out of players if they are out of confidence,and frightend of abuse from the fans of their team.that is where we are at the moment though


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: sharper on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:04:27
To be honest, knowing the Adver as it is today, I wouldnt be suprised if they have put words into his mouth to some extent to make a readable story out of nothing.

Saying this there is a concern that at the County Ground, some fans are very quick to get on players back for one mislayed pass etc.  This only leads to that player playing the safe option next time they have the ball i.e. going back to the keeper, rather than playing a defence spilting ball which could create a goal, but a few times not quite reach its destination and get intercepted or go to the keeper.


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:05:17
You do wonder that if the abuse continues from the fans how will that effect players like JPM, will they think who gives a fuck, if STFC go down I can put in a transfer request and be gone, or do they think, I'm gonna give it my all and turn this around.  If a few go for option A we could be in a shit load of trouble.  


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:06:32
Quote

"I think it may be a bit of a belief that's missing,"

There's a reason why we're not winning here - it's not like no-one knows - I think we're a bit scared to play, worried about letting the fans down and worried about letting ourselves down.

"You've seen that there was nothing really in the (Millwall) game, but we just didn't even produce, especially in the first half.

"But it's a strange feeling to have. I've never had this in my career before where the lads are scared to play at home."

"It might take the lads to show a bit of courage and not be afraid to lose the ball in areas where they might get punished.

"We can do it - in the first game of the season against Tranmere we took the game to them and beat them convincingly. So we can do it, it's just a fact of one, two, three results which aren't helping anyone's confidence.

"There's loads of clubs who go through it. Look at the highest level and look at Newcastle - they're going through a tough time and it's for reasons like confidence.

"If you're a confident person you're alright, but there's an afraid-ness at the moment, not through lack of effort, and it's certainly nothing to do with the manager.

"The manager does everything for us and we work hard during the week, it's just the 11 lads who go out on a Saturday need to be brave enough and bold enough to not be scared by the fans."

It's generally worth reading what the players said without the editorial bits, especially when it's apperently the second article the adver has got out of the same interview. Does look like he actually stops short of blaming the fans.




Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Rustle on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:15:43
You do wonder that if the abuse continues from the fans how will that effect players like JPM, will they think who gives a fuck, if STFC go down I can put in a transfer request and be gone, or do they think, I'm gonna give it my all and turn this around.  If a few go for option A we could be in a shit load of trouble.  


I think we are already in trouble,something needs to be done maybe a statement from Fitton saying to the fans get off the players back and let them do there job,maybe the fans will listen to Mr Fitton rather than malpas.I cant see a quick fix here any other way to be honest.

I also think malpas should stop players talking to the press for a while,this just fan's the flames in my opinion.The last time fitton made a statement last season it shut the fans up and we started picking up points.The only other option is to remove management,would that get the fans off the players backs tho. 


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:45:38
You do wonder that if the abuse continues from the fans how will that effect players like JPM, will they think who gives a fuck, if STFC go down I can put in a transfer request and be gone, or do they think, I'm gonna give it my all and turn this around.  If a few go for option A we could be in a shit load of trouble.  

In most other jobs if your customers were rude and abusive to you, you wouldnt give a fuck or put in any extra effort.

I think its clear alot of players are thinking if im just going to get abuse why bother. Like you said jan they can bugger off any time they want....they dont care its a job to them.


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 17:41:12
You do wonder that if the abuse continues from the fans how will that effect players like JPM, will they think who gives a fuck, if STFC go down I can put in a transfer request and be gone, or do they think, I'm gonna give it my all and turn this around.  If a few go for option A we could be in a shit load of trouble. 

 I think one of the reasons why the scum have fallen so far. is that their fans are quick to get on players backs....this leads to the situation as you point out JA, where players stop playing and look to get out.  One of the recurring mantras on the scum site is their morons can't figure out why these same players on leaving then seem to do well at their new clubs.

 I always thought STFC fans were above this sort of thing, unless driven to extremes.
 
  We may be a bit crap right now, but things are 100% better than what they might have been....I noticed Rufus Brevitt is now number 2 at Bedfont Town.  A Little less than a year ago it was quite likely he'd have become our manager on Sturrock's departure.

 It's quite understandable having a bit of a moan in the pub after a shit performance, but some just go on and on....FFS get a life....all this negativity damages you as well as the club.

 

 


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: michael on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 17:47:19
Negativity is a polite word for it.

I call it hysterics.


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 17:59:54
Like you said jan they can bugger off any time they want....they dont care its a job to them.

Personally I think (mostly) they do care. I think the issue is one of confidence, where you think you are playing your normal game and giving 100% when in fact you are hiding from the game.

So Hasney is kind of right, but it doesn't need saying particularly if it could be interpreted that he is blaming the fans.


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 18:05:38
I dont know, I was embaressed first 15 minutes saturday. They hardly won a challenge.



Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: wiggy on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 18:43:30
I back Hasney 100%.  Been to every game this season and he has just been made a scapegoat for some poor performances.

Not looking for a row, and I have only been to all the home games (none away). I back the team while I am in the CG, but surely Hasney is responsible in part for the poor performances because he should take more responsibility for organising the defence and encouraging the rest of the team.


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 19:09:21
Very well put reg although i would have taken it more seriously if you had not admitted you prefered going for a walk sunday than going to the slough of despondency ;-)


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 19:34:42
With the abuse our players get I don't blame then.

It affects the team a lot more than people think.


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 19:43:29
Very well put reg although i would have taken it more seriously if you had not admitted you prefered going for a walk sunday than going to the slough of despondency ;-)

 You should try it DRS....rather than go to the Huddersfield game and get bitter and twisted...go and gather mushrooms somewhere like West Woods.

 Chanterelles are plentiful at the moment.

 http://www.wildmanstevebrill.com/JPEG'S/Mushroom%20Images/Chanterelles.Photo.jpg


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 19:54:43
I would reg but somewhere deep down there is a belief  we might turn the corner so dont wanna miss it. Fuck me that sounded like i have been on those mushrooms.


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: tans on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 12:45:12
http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/display.var.2455587.0.breaking_news_aljofree_misses_pools_clash.php

Umm, coincidence maybe ;)


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 12:59:38
Haha the first comment below


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 13:03:09
no surpirse, be interesting to see how the defence does without him...


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: sharper on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 13:21:47
He's been playing with that virus since MK away.


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 13:25:34
He's been playing with that virus since MK away.

Hide and seek? Backgammon? How exactly has he been playing with it?


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Colin Todd on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 13:31:33
is it aids?


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 16:20:33
Gone sick now.........coincidence?


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 16:22:49
of course...


Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 16:36:57
Phoned in sick two days early, that's efficient. I did like this comment on this is though:

Quote
Posted by: STFCwitneyTHFC, Witney, should be in Wiltshire on 1:38pm today
Has MM taken my advice from my post of yesterday, when i suggested we play a formation of 4-1-3-2 with the players being Amankwaah,Jerel,Morr ison,J.Smith Peacock Nalis, Easton, McNamee Cox,Paynter Do i dare mention the subs again Well, we will just have to see!!!
Has MM taken my advice from my post of yesterday, when i suggested we play a formation of 4-1-3-2 with the players being
Amankwaah,Jerel,Morr
ison,J.Smith
Peacock
Nalis, Easton, McNamee
Cox,Paynter
Do i dare mention the subs again

Well, we will just have to see!!!

I'm guessing he probably hasn't :D



Title: Re: Aljofree-Leading by example!!!
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 19:01:04
Must be too scared to play