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Any actual evidence yet

Any actual evidence yet

There were some videos last night of, Traore, Balmy and Boo smoking something, no idea what though.

Not at all fussed myself, bloody stupid to video it though.

There were some videos last night of, Traore, Balmy and Boo smoking something, no idea what though.

Not at all fussed myself, bloody stupid to video it though.

Being old, I have absolutely no idea what 'hippee crack' is. However, is this the stuff that Agbonlahor got suspended for?

Dopey.

Me, too. My first instinct was to think of Jane Fonda's lady parts

Abonglahor at villa suspended for doing this.

No he wasn't -he wasn't considered for selection during a brief investigation, after which no further action...

Don't let the facts get in the way though.

No he wasn't -he wasn't considered for selection during a brief investigation, after which no further action...

Don't let the facts get in the way though.

More like 90 seconds. Probably not even that.

More like 90 seconds. Probably not even that.

Is it just a coincidence, or does it look like discipline within the squad has crumbled ?

 Omnishambles anyone?

Yeah you can get those little canisters for dirt cheap. I've done it before, it lasts about 30 seconds and doesn't seem to have any affect really although like shoving anything in your body it can kill if it goes wrong (which I imagine is extremely rare). There's a lot worse you can do to your body.

I'd be more inclined to give them a slap for filming themselves doing it.

Yeah, the filming it part is what I'd punish them for.

We had somebody moaning at the end of last season because they saw the players out in a restaurant. Players should be wise to the fact that people jump on the slightest thing to moan about.

So if its legal and the effects only last c.90 seconds and it has warranted an investigation I assume we will be having a full public inquiry of any are seen smoking a cigarette or drinking alcohol the effects of both appearing somewhat longer and more damaging?

They are role models to young children and supposed to be athletes so to do it is bad enough

Is it like the stupid ice bucket challenge thingy? did this start with Raheem Sterling nominating someone?  As a non FBer, the entire art of publishing yourself in life's great moments of dullness and fuckwittery does rather whoosh me it has to be said.

Those drugs aren't completely harmless. They work by starving the brain of oxygen so there is a risk of brain damage.

Why? If it's legal and not harmful, what is the problem here? What have they done that is "bad enough"? I'm really struggling to understand what the problem is here beyond the fact the tabloids have concocted a bullshit nickname for the stuff that implies there's some kind of great harm being done. But not being up with these things, maybe I've missed something because for the life of me I can't see what harm has been done at all?

Really? Is that how Nitrous Oxide works? Seems an odd thing for a dentist to use as anaesthetic, if so. But I'm neither a dentist nor an anaesthetist so is there anyone qualified to say whether this is actually the case?

Nitrous oxide is a ‘dissociative’ drug, meaning the user might feel as though they are becoming apart from the situation they were in, or even from their own body. Nitrous oxide has a range of effects on the brain which are not fully understood, but its dissociative effects are probably caused by preventing the normal action of the NMDA receptor.
What are the effects of nitrous oxide?

When someone inhales nitrous oxide, the gas rapidly dissolves into the bloodstream, and hits the brain within seconds. Effects vary between people and are rarely quite the same twice, but a rush of dizziness and euphoria is normal, and people often burst out laughing. Sound is oddly distorted, voices and music often turning into a throbbing roar like a helicopter.

Hallucinations are possible, from simple moving bright dots to complete detailed dreamscapes, although most users do not experience complex hallucinations. The gas is an anaesthetic, so coordination and awareness are strongly affected and users may fall over if they are not sitting or lying down. The experience ends almost as swiftly as it began, with the peak lasting just seconds and the user back to normal within about 2 minutes. Sometimes, people take many ‘hits’ of nitrous oxide over a few hours. Nitrous oxide also reduces anxiety and pain.

Additionally, when inhaled recreationally in the usual (and least risky) way, from a balloon, the gas in the lungs displaces air, temporarily preventing much or any oxygen getting into the blood. This may cause the heart to beat faster, and limbs to feel tingly or heavy.

Is it harmeless though? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33691783

Really? Is that how Nitrous Oxide works? Seems an odd thing for a dentist to use as anaesthetic, if so. But I'm neither a dentist nor an anaesthetist so is there anyone qualified to say whether this is actually the case?

More people die from taking selfies

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/11881900/More-people-have-died-by-taking-selfies-this-year-than-by-shark-attacks.html

I'm not sure whether this thread has convinced me that the players are evil scum who should be drummed out of football at the first available opportunity or that this laughing gas stuff sounds like something I should try :) It sounds substantially less dangerous than beer, for example.

Its convinced me that much of the British public and media need to get out more!

I don't think they should. If they get their knickers in this much of a twist over laughing gas, imagine what would happen if they came across someone vaping. Or even actually smoking. Or eating a Greggs pie. They'd have a Victorian lady style attack of the vapours. Best off staying inside, safe behind their keyboards.

They do but i was answering the it's harmless comment

Hey, don't be bringing Greggs into it, the internet is awash with images of me partaking in a little Greggs, I am a dreadful role model for the kids!

You made the Daily Mail :D

http://dailym.ai/1q8ZIrL

More people die from taking selfies

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/11881900/More-people-have-died-by-taking-selfies-this-year-than-by-shark-attacks.html

You made the Daily Mail :D

http://dailym.ai/1q8ZIrL

Jeremy Balmy - role model? Jeeeez.

The reaction to this whole thing is so fucking tin-pot and cringeworthy it's unbelievable. There again, the reaction to most things STFC-related seems to be bizarrely OTT and cringeworthy at the moment.

Fuck it, shoot them all - it's the least they deserve.

it's that sort of attitude that leads to their deaths. Tut tut...

That forced me to read the article. I had to cringe at the safe selfie tips under the article.



    Keep your wits about you and try to take the picture on steady ground
    Do not under any circumstance pose with loaded guns
    Don't pose with, or near, dangerous animals
    Don't take selfies while operating heavy machinery
    Don't climb electrical pylons or trains
    If you are in a situation where you need to be alert and pay attention, don't take a selfie
    Stop being an utter cunt by taking selfies.  

More of a roll model in that case.

:sofa:

The bench will be a laugh.

You made the Daily Mail :D

http://dailym.ai/1q8ZIrL

The bench will be a laugh.

You made the Daily Mail :D

http://dailym.ai/1q8ZIrL

The bench will be a laugh.

on the plus side, more free money from bet365 Saturday

I'm intrigued as to what thought process must have taken place for them to think it was a good idea to film/stream it, with not one of them saying "You know what?, probably a good idea to turn the camera off"

My biggest concern with this whole fiascos is that the Daily Fail have referred to Balmy and Traore as League 1 'stars'

Why couldnt it be Rodgers!?!

I think Anton has had his 15 minutes of infamy....and hopefully learned from his error.

Has it occurred to anyone else that maybe they wanted to get caught?...

I'm intrigued as to what thought process must have taken place for them to think it was a good idea to film/stream it, with not one of them saying "You know what?, probably a good idea to turn the camera off"

think they can forget new contracts

Something's just occurred to me. Why the fuck does Drissa have the hood up on his hoodie indoors?

That alone is worthy of getting rid.

The club had to act regardless to how OTT the nationals have portrayed this.

Traore was worth an extension (perhaps not a first team place) - this'll probably end that.

Balmy is below YTS kids in the pecking order. Probably closer to an exchange student than a footballer now.

Ormonde-Ottewill has a two year deal and more promise so will probably remain.

It's amazing how often Swindon Town find themselves involved in this sort of PR silliness regardless of form, squad or regime.

It's silly and the timing is poor given current form but is it any worse than our Leeds clique out on the piss the day we got relegated in 2010/11.

PdC got wind of that when he came in and they were gone. They were experienced 'pro's' on decent money rather than younger players.

Didn't know about that!! I'm assuming Lucas, Prutton, Sheehan & Douglas??

Do they have any brains, seriously?

If you have to do this why in the hell would you film it and put it out to social media for all to see.

Beggars belief- would probably warrant a dismissal for gross misconduct for bringing the club into disrepute.

I suspect BOO is the problem as putting it bluntly he is potentially worth something on the transfer market, in terms of the other two I suspect they would be on their way, but it is difficult to do this if you don't sack BOO as well.

Club has some good PR potential with the Daily Mail readers here, but this is offset with the potential employment tribunal position of sacking people for gross misconduct when they have not committed an illegal act - suppose depends what their contracts say and how they are legally interpreted - not sure if precedents from other clubs which will use similar contracts will also come into it!

Once again a distraction and pain in the arse we could do without!

The 2 French boys

however I'd be more than happy never to see him in the shirt again even if it means we take a financial hit.

You'd happily never see a fairly promising young player never play for us again because of this.... really?

You'd happily never see a fairly promising young player never play for us again because of this.... really?

Yes. It's completely disrespectful to the fans

How? Seriously, in what way do you feel you have been disprespected?

Yes. It's completely disrespectful to the fans, there has to be standards.

At least Brophy should get an extended run now!

What are the standards? Do it, but don't film it? Smoke a fag instead? Do a jagerbomb instead? Eat 2 Big Macs? Live like a hermit, rather than a young man professional athlete?

Nobody would pay anything for BOO. At least Brophy should get an extended run now! Balmy would have been released anyway. I think Traore may have been 50/50 for a new deal but he'll be gone now aswell I reckon.

Bradford like Scunny and Oldham don't score many at home....Bradford haven't managed more than 2 against anyone...so we have to try and park the bus, however unlikely that is.

Careful what you wish for

I've made an assumption on BOO having seen him play regularly. Will be nice to see Brophy get more than 10-15 mins. He should get 6 games now if he stays injury free!

Drissa has apologised.

https://twitter.com/DrissaTraore25/status/718463771652530176

Drissa has apologised.

https://twitter.com/DrissaTraore25/status/718463771652530176

Are you going to organise a green balloon and hoodies display at Bradford JayBox?

I suspect not - didn't you read the Daily Mail, Jay is quoted as saying 'They're free to do what they want, but it's dangerous, they are role models and it's the on-season. Not the time.'  :)

The "on-season"? WTF?

What are the standards? Do it, but don't film it? Smoke a fag instead? Do a jagerbomb instead? Eat 2 Big Macs? Live like a hermit, rather than a young man?

Yeah... as in "off-season" is a phrase and I was struggling to fit it into 140 chars. Besides, that was a Tweet to my mate Ben in a discussion about it. More things were said.

Also... do one you pedant.

isn't off-season an American expression?

I think people are being a bit revisionist with Ormonde-Ottewill since this silliness was published. He's been more than adequate for being essentially a first season pro (where he came from is irrelevant).

We shouldn't be looking to offload.

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Lesson learned. I'll use two Tweets giving me 280 characters to get my point across in a correct, English way. God damn Americanims coming over here and breaking our phrases!

Nobody would pay anything for BOO. At least Brophy should get an extended run now!  

Drissa has apologised.

https://twitter.com/DrissaTraore25/status/718463771652530176

isn't off-season an American expression?

Dunno about anyone else but I want to try some of this shit. Never had a go but I'm game for anything really.

Dunno about anyone else but I want to try some of this shit. Never had a go but I'm game for anything really.

It lasts for about 30 seconds and it's pretty shit.

The wife popped out both sprogs on just gas-and-air, she was well away with things. I'd say comparable to a decent skin-full. She had no idea about the shit she was coming out with when I questioned her later.

Oh god is it the same as gas and air? I didn't even really get that as my baby came real quick - I had him at home as I didn't have time to get to hospital - the ambulance crew that came didn't have any on board and the first responder that was sent for some came after the baby!

That's the inglorious thing about being a midwife; inconspicuously cleaning up bits of poo.

Oh god is it the same as gas and air? I didn't even really get that as my baby came real quick - I had him at home as I didn't have time to get to hospital - the ambulance crew that came didn't have any on board and the first responder that was sent for some came after the baby!

You'd happily never see a fairly promising young player never play for us again because of this.... really?

they are all very average, get shot

Dunno about anyone else but I want to try some of this shit. Never had a go but I'm game for anything really.

Is Boo the only one that has not issued his public apology as yet 

What's wrong with the notes app, Bradley? No one wants an apology in Courier, ffs.

What's wrong with the notes app, Bradley? No one wants an apology in Courier, ffs.

Erm it's like a typewriter and Tom Hanks uses typewriters so I'm with Ormonde-Ottewill on this one. He's used italics and everything. Not even a red squiggly line.

All is forgiven Brandon.

he was joking (I think). isn't the maximum fine 2 weeks wages?

So each of them are on 11k a week. I wonder what they pay down the A420?
 

So each of them are on 11 a week. I wonder what they pay down the A420?
 

So each of them are on 11k a week. I wonder what they pay down the A420?
 

Cut our nose to spite our face.